Who is the most nauseatingTV evangelist?

[dolgoruky]

There seems to be an increasing amount of TV evangelist programmes Here in Germany. Fuck, are these people irritating!

Creflo Dollar is the most slimey, closely followed by that bloke called (I may be wrong here) Pastor Bayliss. This bloke does nothing but lie. He's a total wanker. He illustrates every feeble point he makes by inventing a person he's met, or who's asked him for help, or a situation he's been in. It's incredible. The last person you'd go to if you needed advice would be him.

[corarose]

1. Robert Tilton and the Husband & Wife team with the Blue hair

Put your hand up to the screen oh lord Hallelujah Sweet Jesus Oh Sodum Da Syia or something like that. He talks in tongues you know and the words come from God they tell Robert to collect millions off of poor people and build huge houses for his family.

[BelleCarolinaPeridot]

2. Exactly !

[A HERETIC I AM]

3. Robert Tilton is a genius!

He begs for a half hour and then goes to the bank! how smart is he? and the husband and wife team is probably from the TBN (Trinity Broadcasting Network) where their throw rugs are worth more than the double-wide homes of their contributors. And dont forget Jack Van Impe and Rexella! Gloom and doom of the apocalypse with a smile and a "PRAISE GOD!" thrown in for good measure!
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[corarose]

6. The Blue Haired Woman on PTL makes me sick

Her voice grates on my nerves and someone needs to tell her that she is rich now and can afford to buy her wigs at better places then Woolworth's or Walgreen's.

[MisterP]

44. Jan Crouch?

I can drive by the palatial TBN building along the I5 near LA here.

[pstokely]

51. in L.A.

isn't that a little too sinful and close to Hollywood

[sam sarrha]

11. they found a dumpster full of prayer requests, behind a bank. the

envelopes had one end cut off, the money had only been removed and the rest tossed in the trash.. the address was a Bank Drop!! this was a major TV Channel preacher... I saw Benny Hinn healing people once.. he puts his palm on their forehead and pushes them over back wards.. they fall down on the stage in neat rows to display his handy work, once a fellow with aids went up and Hinn wouldn't touch him.. he just flecked his fingers at him and said "POOFF.." the fellow looked at him and .."is that all I get", Hinn said, "yes". they were so scared of the Guy with AIDS they couldn't grab him to throw him out...sometimes when Hinn gets on a roll..he takes off his coat, swings it at the sick and suffering and slaps down a healing that floors a whole row of worshipers!!

[sam sarrha]

4. Benny Hinn, has BIG Tent services in 3rd word countries and takes their l

money, and tells them it will be returned many times over, because they gave it for god...probably costs him a couple million to keep that Comb Over, helmet hair, Doo'ed up. he is really sickening.

[BelleCarolinaPeridot]

8. My grandmother went to one of Benny Hinn's BIG Tent services

a couple of years ago . I tried to stop her from going but you know , I am young I don't know anything :shrug: . She also watches the GOD Channel or some channel , favorite show " Ask The Pastor " ( a local show I think ). I can't stand it .

[corarose]

12. When my Mom was dying my Sister made me go to Benny Hinn

With her because she thought that she was going to get up on the stage with him and our Mom would be healed.
I am a fidgety person so I decided to walk around at the Rosemont Horizon and I saw this limo pulled up with people in it.
They were all dressed differently and as they got out one of the younger guys was like Man Where's My Cash and they were all handed money and I still didn't know what was going on.
When Hinn came on they brought the same people up from the Limo to be healed and I went to the side door as they were leaving and I watched them all get back into the limo before the crowd disbursed.

[dmr]

23. I can't remember the name of the movie with Steve Martin

but what you described corarose sounds like the movie.

Greed. Greed in the name of the Lord. If what they preach to us is true, then they will be in hell for sure. Wonder if they ever think about that?

[BiggJawn]

27. "Leap of Faith"..It should have been classified as a documentary...

I spent 9 years working for a Televangelist. I got behind-the-scenes looks at a few of the big names from the 90's, Richard Roberts, Rod Parsley, etc.

That movie was spot-on. The bit with the radio in the ear? Peter Popoff, exposed by James Randi.

Steve's movie didn't go into the darker side of Sex and the Televangelist enough. These guys have women THROWING themselves at them, and their security people are there to fend off the potential scandals. Guess they figure that a "Grope from Pastor" is like a "touch from GAWD"....Unlike Jessica Hahn, most of them keep silent, the rest are cheaply bought-off....

[Az]

32. Leap of Faith was based on Peter Popoff

And in particular James Randi's debunking of him. Course Hollywood repackaged the evil con artist as a good hearted misunderstood rascal. Sorry but someone that sells false hope to people truly in need is a monster in my book and no amount of Hollywood glitter can change that.

[JaySherman]

5. Umm... All of them. nt

nt

[HamstersFromHell]

7. Carman...speaking from experience.

While I despise most all of the money begging idiots polluting the TV spectrum, one I can speak of with first hand (well, second hand?) is Carman.

My ex-wife once took a job through a temp. agency working in their headquarters on second shift. (Yes, he gets enough mail that it requires 2 shifts to open it all.) Minimum wage job, opening "prayer request" letters and removing the donations. The letters were piled up in a cart for Carman to "read later and pray over".

After working there a few weeks, she finally found out what happened to all those now-devoid-of-money "prayer requests". Seems this co-worker was waiting on her ride home to arrive and he was very late getting there. She got off work at 11pm, and sometime around midnight (I'm supposing now that everyone's "gone"?), the "supervisor" over the mail room wheels out that same huge cart of mail...right to the dumpster. Guess Carman works all hours reading mail?

Hammies!

[7th_Sephiroth]

9. one elevangelist benny hinn is his name i think

a palesinian, one of the biggest swindelers ever

[AntiCoup2K4]

10. Jan "Purple Haired Granny" Crouch on TBN

Though I do have to admit lusting after her "rocker slut" daughter in law who hosted the Christian rock video show in the mid 80's.

[Bozita]

13. Pat Robertson -- His "evangelism" spills over into politics...

...and poisons the groundwater.

Without a Pat Robertson, President Gore would have us celebrating world peace.

"Thou shalt not kill" is the Rosetta Stone for fundamentalist hypocricy. Fundies have drilled more loopholes into that Commandment than exist in the 2nd Amendment.

Amen.

[Melodybe]

15. One of my friends has a great story about seeing ol'blue hair in Atlanta

They were staying in a hotel there that was hosting 2 conventions one of them a Star Wars convention (this was back in like 98 pre-PM) and a TBN convention. My friend, Jenna, was with her best friend and her family. The two were bored so they decided to do some acid and walk around. Right as they started peeking they found themselves standing in front of the most "amazing" water fountain and as they looked at it the theme from Star Wars was playing in the distance. Jenna says that it was a religious experience. As they turned to go wonder around, right behind them was the blue haired lady from TBN. Needless to say, they screamed bloody murder, caused a scene, and spent the rest of the day hiding in their room and trying to avoid her parents. Jenna swears it is true and I believe her. It is so funny when she tells it, I loose it every time.

[Don_G]

14. They All Are

In rural Kentucky where my Grandmother lives, they have no less than 4 dedicated "faith" channels on their cable television system.

Disgusting.

[Bozita]

18. Information is critical in a democratic society.

Question: Can you picture 4 dedicated "information" channels which concentrate on world news?

Answer: No.

Sad.

[guitar man]

16. John Hagee

This guy is the worst.Doom and Gloom,end of the World.

[GOPisEvil]

31. I used to live in his home town.

Cornerstone Church is HUUUUUUUUUUUGE! He makes me ill. :puke:

[SoCalDem]

17. This one always makes me smile

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[BiggJawn]

34. It only makes you "smile"??

I have TEARS rolling down my cheeks! and that's just from the FIRST one!

Oh-<toot!>-Thank Y<blap!>ou!

[La_Serpiente]

19. Good Lord

they are going to Europe? Pray that they don't take over your country.

[pstokely]

20. D James Kennedy

he begs for cash to 'expose' the ACLU

[dolgoruky]

21. Wow!

I didn't realise there were so many of these assholes around. I genuinely feel sorry for you people having to put up with these twats playing such a prominent role in your society. From what I have seen and read these mothers are the worst kind of fuckin leeches imaginable. Roll on the revolution, so we can exile the scum to an iceberg in the arctic ocean.

[BelleCarolinaPeridot]

22. Get Your " Ticket To Heaven Here " via Robert Schuller

( completely from the website )
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— Dr. Robert Anthony Schuller
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[dmr]

24. I was channel surfing the other morning

and came upon what I thought was a news channel, but quickly realized it wasn't from what they were reporting. It was the 700 Club's news telling their listeners that another study has proven that homosexuality can be reversed, that it is enviornmental.

Then Pat Robertson began spewing his shit by saying to the masses that the deviant (his words, not mine) can change if only they commit to the Lord and be 'saved', and how we need to protect our children from these people.

It ached my heart to hear this. We need to protect our children from the likes of him.

[BelleCarolinaPeridot]

25. It hurts when I see kind people who accept people who for he they are

died suddenly in accidents - and then we are left with people like Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson .

[Socialist Christian]

26. John and Matthew Hagee, ignorant apocolyptics <nt>

[BiggJawn]

28. All of them. Televangelism is an Odd Duck....

Most products and service you see sold on TV have a burden of proof on the sellers that what they claim for their products/goods are true.

That loud-mouth guy has to prove that his Oxy-Clean takes out stains (it ain't bad) Tony Little has to prove that you actually can lose weight on his "fitness-walker" or whatever it's called.(what's REALLY under his ball-cap?)

With religion, there is no such burden of proof. "Gawd said it, I believe it,and that settles it..." there is a burden of DISPROOF on critics of Televangelists. The scumbags don't have to prove their product is safe and works as expected, YOU have to prove it's a defective and harmful product, and as we've seen everywhere, the "faithful" won't stand for anyone "dissing" their favourite opiate...

Read Carl Sagan's "The Demon-haunted World". Make your kids read it, too.

[Kellanved]

29. Uhhmm

I don't get you "Germany" reference - AFAIK (don't watch that much TV) there are no TV evangelists in Germany. If you're talking about the boom in the UK: that's a different story.

OK: NBC shows American TV evangelist and sundays a mass from a random church in Germany is televised - but no Evangelist has his own show.

[BelleCarolinaPeridot]

30. I have seen one on CNBC Europe but

I think it was on the Baden Wurtemberg ( B-TV ) Channel about a month ago where I seen another show from a German Church .

[LynneSin]

33. I'm about to frighten you with this picture

I saw her once on TV. She was in some hospital in Africa giving infants hot wheels and barbie dolls. I couldn't think of a more inappropriate gift to give newborn babies. Why not save the money on these dumb gifts and donate it to the hospital

Btw - it's the one in the middle - Jan Crouch

[BlackVelvetElvis]

35. Dr. Gene Scott

He doesn't fit the description of an evangelist, but he does have his own church and satellite. His program consists of him smoking cigars, rambling incoherently about religious philosophy and screaming at the viewers when the donations don't come in. Oh yeah, he shows videos of his million dollar horses while he parades around with an entourage of young blonde women.
It's great entertainment!

[BiggJawn]

38. The only "honest" one of the bunch.

People must think his ramblings are good for something. I actually like his "schtick"..."I have always believed in that a Teacher should be worthy of his hire...Now, if you've learned anything here today, GET ON THE DAMN PHONE and tell me what you think it's worth!"

"Hell, no, I won't give you a 'Tax Receipt'...I pay taxes on this money you send in, this isn't any 501(c3) outfit here. The Bible tells you to 'Give in secret, lest any man should boast'...what do you need a receipt for, planning on cheating on YOUR taxes? now get on the phones and talk to me..."

Does he still sell his original paintings?

[MisterP]

50. the speckly one with the whiteboards full of parallel phrases

in 10-12 langauges?
on edit: yup, that's him; he's among the least scum-coated of them, and cheerfully unstable

[grannylib]

36. IMHO the only one ever been worth anything is Billy Graham...

he seems to be the only one who is not filled with hatred towards others, and who actually attempts to provide some kind of real ministry, beyond just ministering to his own bank account.

[Midwest_Doc]

43. Read This ...

The Rebel Angel
"They Don't Know How I Really Feel"
Billy Graham, Tangled Up in Tape
By David Vest

Almost thirty years after President Nixon resigned in disgrace, the tapes continue to come out, their power to sully reputations undimmed by time.

Now it is the Rev. Billy Graham who has been made to feel the lash of his own words, secretly taped by the president who sought his spiritual counsel and used him for "cover."

We knew, long ago, of Nixon's own anti-Semitism. We heard his voice on the first wave of tapes, wanting to know how his daughters were being deployed in his re-election campaign. When staffers told him they were scheduled to appear at functions in support of the arts, he protested, "No, no, that's Jews and queers."

Nixon himself has long since lost the power to shock us, even when we hear him proposing to drop nuclear weapons on Vietnam.

But this conversation with Billy Graham is something else again. Here is the most admired and influential religious leader in America complaining to the president of the United States about the Jews and their "stranglehold" on the media, and blaming them for "all the pornography."

Even when Nixon replies that he agrees but "can't say that" in public, Graham presses the point: Yes, right, but if you get elected to a second term, then we could do something about the problem.

Graham adds that while many Jews are friendly to him, "they don't know how I really feel about what they are doing to this country."

Today, Graham claims to have no memory of the conversation, as if to throw ever-so-slight a doubt on whether it actually occurred. Alas, we have the tapes. Advisers (and network news anchors bending over backward to sound respectful) point out that the old evangelist is in his eighties and suffering from Parkinson's disease, an argument similar to the one used to try to keep war criminals from being brought to trial.

What they might have pointed out instead is that Billy Graham, at a time when he was presenting himself as a moral leader and conducting "Crusades for Christ," was saying things no person with the slightest claim to moral stature could be imagined saying, under any circumstances.

Given nearly unfettered access to the highest halls of power, the minister used his influence to slander an entire people, to betray the trust of those who had by his own account been good to him, to urge the most powerful person in the world to act vigorously in the service of bigotry.

Closer in time to Dachau than to the present moment, the "preacher to the presidents" counseled the rankest, crudest, most heart-sickening anti-Semitism.

This news is especially painful to people who have revered Billy Graham, seeing him as a class act who operated on a much higher level than the Jerry Falwells, Pat Robertsons and Jimmy Swaggarts who came after him. I recall how some people who loathed and feared Nixon took comfort in the thought that "at least he's talking to Billy Graham."

Now that we know what poison he was pouring into the president's ear, it will be impossible ever to think of him in the same way again. As paranoid as Nixon was, his spiritual advisor sounds even nuttier.

Dr. Graham says that the statements he cannot remember saying do not reflect his real views, and that he apologizes. For what, one wonders. The word "repentance" has been conspicuously absent from news accounts.

The very thought of all the times Billy Graham has "led the nation in prayer" is painful today, and not just to people who never liked him in the first place, who found him hard to take even at his best.

Had he been caught with a hooker, or with his hand in the till, or busted trying to pick up a boy in a bus station washroom, and it had come out only now, we'd probably just feel embarrassment for the old guy. But this goes way deeper. We have all said things we regret, things we'd never want made public. Graham said them to the president of the United States, from a position of privilege, by way of advice.

What must people be feeling who attended his "Crusades" around the time of that phone call, who heard him preach, who poured down out of the stadium seats at his call to conversion, now that they know what was really on his mind?


David Vest writes the Rebel Angel column for CounterPunch. He is a poet and piano-player for the Pacific Northwest's hottest blues band, The Cannonballs.

He can be reached at: [e-mail]

Visit his website at http://www.rebelangel.com

[grannylib]

46. Well there goes that theory...thanks for the link!

[Aristus]

37. Pastor Ken Somethingorother of the Covenant Celebration Church in

Tacoma, aka "Champions Centre". Greedy, cheesy, awful, vulgar, seedy, tacky, Las Vegas-style religion here. Their big thing is "Success begins on Sunday!"
Ken comes out in a thousand-dollar suit braying "I feel Ssssssssuccessful today!" and his pitch is 'believe in our Lord Jesus Christ and you shall reap worldly wealth and reward!' Absolutely sickening for any real Christian. God! They have a Starbuck's in the grotesque monstrosity of a foyer of their church. The sanctuary is about half the size of the Tacoma Dome, and is domed itself to house its gargantuan services. Bands, choirs, associate pastors all bearing that drugged-out "bliss" look swaying back and forth on the massive platform.

I've been there twice for services because my freeper in-laws go there. Each time, I swear to myself I'll never go back. When his program comes on Channel 6, I flip past it as fast as I can.

[Spirochete]

39. I don't watch them

but I totally detest Pat Robertson. He makes my skin crawl.

[FunBobbyMucha]

40. Easy,...

John Ashcroft.

[Ratty]

41. Jerry Fallwell, still no. 1

There's none more disgusting than him.

But coming in second: Benny Hana Hinn
Tied for third place: Pat Robertson/James Kennedy

Dr. James Kennedy is an interesting fellow. Every sermon I've ever seen has been overtly political (his favorite topic seems to be how America is a Christian nation and most of his vitriol is reserved for those who imagine any separation of Church and State). Usually you see any preacher, even a TV preacher, at least occasionally preach on a spiritual topic, salvation, damnation, living a good Christian life, why tithing more will actually increase your wealth. But I've never seen this guy ever do that. Sunday after Sunday it's more like an RNC meeting than a church. I guess that's the way his congregation likes it. Or maybe he holds one service for television and another untelevised sermon for his "flock."

[kayell]

42. Charles Stanley

Mostly because I accidentally channel surfed past him just as he was explaining to all the good Christians that "God loves war". Ewwwww

Haven't had much experience watching these, I've always changed the channel fast if they appear. One of my brothers used to call the 700 club hotline when he was in high school and heckle. They all appear to be a very scary bunch. I had no idea there were quite so many. :brr:

[Ratty]

49. I always thought he was pretty reasonable

His church is a sister church of the one I grew up in. The Christian Church always seemed pretty low key, rarely political. I remember when I was a kid, about the time I was struggling to come to terms with being gay, our pastor was giving a fairly normal sermon but at the end he added something else. He exhorted everyone in the congregation to vote for the Briggs Initiative, to purge Californias teachers of all homosexuals. This was very hurtful to me and after that I noticed the anti-gay sermons becoming more frequent.

Anyway, I heard that sermon you mention. How good christians submit themselves to the president and don't question his decisions. All very reasonable sounding, all supported by passages in the Bible.

[kyrasdad]

45. Pat Robertson

and his insidious offspring. Then there's that robotic stpeford wife Terry Muuesen as his evangelical sideckick. I rmeember the day he said that the maount of money you gave was proprotional to the amount of belssings you recieved... i thought you fuck... you hoier than thou self righteous pompus windbag fuck. and then the chickensdhit try to back away from Falwells 9/11 statement by saying he didn't hear what he was saying... but he did manage a "I concur". I wished I believed in hell that way he could have a condo right next to the boiling lava lake. pagans and gays and abotrionists are resposible for 9/11 my ass. wahta hate mongerer.

[CO Liberal]

47. Jack Van Impe and His Anorexic Wife

He always looks like he's having an orgasm when he starts talking about the "End Times".

[Liberal Veteran]

48. The drag queen on TBN......

[Socialist Christian]

52. Dolgoruky You know Dostoevsky was a right wing nut right?

[Cooley Hurd]

53. Is Ernest Angely still around?

What a friggin' nut HE was!

[Turbineguy]

54. And then there's the decor!

Do you think Heaven is decorated in such bad taste?

[Scott Lee]

55. Oral Roberts and his "God's gon' kill me if you don't pledge!"

This one is a big red schanker on the ass of society.

He's been a bigtime money troller for Jayzus since I was a kid, but he outdid himself a few years ago when he went on TV and told the faithful (read that "gullible sots") that if they didn't send him X amount of money by this deadline date, that "God" was gonna "call him home" (read that, kill him).

How nice. The Almighty extorting money from the masses through terror.

Well I suspect he met his deadline because the scumbag is still alive.