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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 02:26 PM
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I'm editing bad poetry...what are you doing?
Okay, it's not "Vogon" bad. It's more like "never went to college" bad or "never learned about verb/subject agreement" bad. Still, it isn't fun.

I'm editing for awhile, then giving myself a break by practicing piano.

What are you doing?
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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 02:29 PM
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1. I'm so envious of your editorship.
I think I'd give my left pinky to be an editor who gets paid for it.

I'm being bored today and boring my kid, and then later I plan on getting chastised by my mother for boring my kid. :silly:
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 02:49 PM
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7. Well, it isn't all that because this is a family member from "back east."
I'm being paid $25 and was told not to tamper with word choice, which is fine by me because that would make the job impossible. The sentence structure is contorted to make end words rhyme, but the meter / cadence is entirely wrong for that kind of poetry. :shrug:

But hey, it's a job. :shrug:

Just to give you an idea:

A Very Good Magazine

The Ozarks Maturity is a very
Interesting magazine to read,
For in it there is so much valuable
Information you need,
Including dates and places of coming events
And even household and cooking hints.
There is enjoyment to be found on
The puzzle page.
There is something in it for every age.

This relative isn't stupid. It's just obvious she's never taken any advanced writing courses. Yes, my family is from Missouri and only two finished college: my uncle and me. It's no wonder I'm the only liberal of the bunch. It's too bad we can't force people to experience life outside the bubble in which they were raised. That might open the eyes of a lot of rural folk.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 02:56 PM
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11. I have seen that magazine!
I live in KC and it is a popular doctor's office magazine.
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 03:01 PM
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13. So, is it a good magazine?
A lot of this lady's poetry is about her sick husband, so I'm sure she's been to plenty of doctor's offices.

To be perfectly honest, I have no idea who this lady is. All I know is that she has something to do with my relatives in Missouri and that her husband recently had a stroke. I hope he'll be okay.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 03:23 PM
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14. Reminds me of Reader's Digest
sort of.

I have honestly never read it. I usually just see it while I am thumbling through the pile looking for a Newsweek.
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Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 04:40 PM
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21. Ahem...
That should be "My uncle and I". :hide:
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 05:29 PM
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23. I thought that over, but I decided that the colon turned whatever
Edited on Sun Dec-04-05 05:44 PM by Ladyhawk
pronoun followed into the objective case. I'll have to google it. If not, then yes, you are correct. It should be subjective. I don't remember how punctuation affects subjective/objective. :shrug:
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 05:35 PM
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25. I couldn't find anything, so I probably should have used subjective.
Oh well, live and learn. :P
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 05:57 PM
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29. That would work if
you were getting sorta reflexively creative and used a comma for emphasis, as in, "my uncle, and me."

But that would open up a whole other can o' worms — one labeled "Serial Commas."

Language, man. :eyes:
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 06:32 PM
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35. LOL...yup.
I knew someone was going to question my use of an objective pronoun in that sentence, too. Hehe. That's always happens when I bring up grammar or spelling. I know every single word will be carefully scruntinized. :D :D :D
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 06:42 PM
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39. Nah
I'm a copy editor, but I don't go by The Rules nearly as much as I go by what feels right. Often, what's mechanically by-the-book correct isn't as readable as something actually touched by human hands, as it were. :7

Hell, even the AP Stylebook is wrong a lot. :eyes:
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 07:24 PM
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41. Yeah, I often don't go by the book, either.
Sometimes it's easier to relate something in second person. You just feel it sounds more like the way real people talk. :)

And don't get me started on quotation punctuation rules and the differences between here and England...oy! And don't castigate me for starting a sentence with a conjunction or ending it with a preposition, or I'll give you what for!
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 07:41 PM
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48. I completely agree... or agree completely ;)
Anal-retentive language rules are not something with which I shall up put!



Btw... does "anal-retentive" have a hyphen? :shrug:
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 08:01 PM
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55. I believe so, but who gives a shit?
If I'm anal-retentive, obviously I can't give a shit. * <--pucker
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 08:10 PM
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56. Wouldn't that be
anal-retractive?

:rofl:
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 08:18 PM
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58. Oh, so you're so anal-retentive your digestive tract works backward?
:D Heh heh.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 06:00 PM
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30. OMG, that's fucking AWFUL
How are you managing to stand
reading piles of that badly rhymed
poorly metered illyrical misuse
of language that we use?
It's very hamfisted and forceful
Like a horse that's himfisted and forceful
in a very forceful and hamfisted way
cuz poets sometimes are just that way
Though it's not Vogon bad as you say,
It's not very interesting, eh?
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 06:33 PM
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36. LOL!
:rofl:

Good one. :)
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 07:59 PM
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53. Thanks! I've had to suffer through a lot of bad poetry...
I knew an older woman once who styled herself a poet - she was awful - but she was "published" and so proud o fher work! And by published, she was taken by that poetry scam place that prints huge-ass hardbound volumes of acres of shit that people buy the book so that their poetry gets printed in it.

:shudder:

She was a really sweet, nice, loving woman, and I loved her to death. And her poetry was utterly sacharinely cloying and bad and awful and filled with faux sweetness and goodness and light, but not artistically done. Like if Thomas Kinkade had Parkinson's.
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 08:13 PM
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57. Hehe. You know, I think I better understand that whole section on
Edited on Sun Dec-04-05 08:15 PM by Ladyhawk
poetry in Hitchhiker's Guide:

"Vogon poetry is of course the third worst in the galaxy. The second worst is that of the Azgoths of Kria. During a recitation by their Poet Master Grunthos the Flatulent of his poem "Ode to a Small Lump of Green Putty I Found in My Armpit One Midsummer Morning" four of his audience died of internal hemorraging, and the President of the Mid-Galactic Arts Nobbling Council survived by gnawing one of his own legs off. Grunthos is reported to have been 'disappointed' by the poem's reception, and was about to embark on a reading of his twelve-book epic entitled My Favorite Bathtime Gurgles when his own major intestine, in a desperate attempt to save life and civilization, leapt straight up through his neck and throttled his brain.

"The very worst poetry of all perished along with its creator, Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings of Greenbridge, Estex, England, in the destruction of planet Earth."

The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy by Douglas Adams, page 64

I guess having to listen to bad poetry is a rite of passage, kind of like having to watch boring slideshows of your Great Aunt Matilda's best friend's mother's summer vacation in Tijuana, Mexico.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 08:35 PM
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60. And the sad part is, I *know* Paula Nancy's Millstone's poetry,
because I've read it. Not under that name of course, but I've read it.
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 02:34 PM
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2. "never went to college"?
My father just bought me this book "Non Campus Mentis"; it was written by a college professor and has some of his student's writings in it. For example "Revolters demanded Liberty, equality and Fraternities" and "War screeched to an end when a nukuleer explosion was dropped on Heroshima".

I never got a chance to go to college and after reading this book I'm glad I didn't.

Okay, I was just waiting for a good opportunity to mention this book..lol. The most intelligent people I know never went to college.
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 02:53 PM
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8. Point taken. :)
However, I learned a lot about writing in college. If you don't like my writing, ponder this: had I not taken a few college writing courses, my writing would suck even worse. :P
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 02:58 PM
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12. Awww...just playing with ya
I never took a writing class in my life and have written tons of songs, I guess it's just a thang. I suck at spelling and grammar though..lol.
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 05:34 PM
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24. Before someone jumps on my case, I'd like to point out that the
word "had" should be capitalized in the above post...LOL! :D
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Err Donating Member (887 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 02:36 PM
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3. I'm in college and my subject/verb agreememt horribly sucks.
Of course, I'm not an English major. I'm a geology major. :)

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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 02:54 PM
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9. "I'm in college and my subject/verb agreement horribly suck"
would have been funnier. :D
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 02:36 PM
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4. Writing it
:D
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 02:54 PM
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10. Oh, do share! But I sure as hell ain't gonna edit it for you. :) n/t
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 07:39 PM
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47. If you insist!
*ahem*

"There once was a man from Nantucket..."


Oops. That's not the one.


Ahhh....here we go:


"It was a dark and stormy night..."
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 02:38 PM
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5. Watchin' the Brownies play a good game for once....
Then I'm gonna write a little...

Then pick up my guitar...

Then go out to dinner...
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Call Me Wesley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 02:42 PM
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6. Writing bad poetry ...
Pilgrim’s 27 Ciphers

Poets throwing tears
into the audience.

Flanked by new age followers
the amateurs marching
forward and Pilgrim sweeps.

Modern esthetic and cosmetic:
Group bonds and wasted nights.

Awake in dreams.
Too much of a man for this little sleep.

The sobriety of the man in the morning
shooing the woman of the night into the street again.

This time: To save what does not want to be saved.
More inevitable than ever before.

Humour?
Thomas Mann laughed as an immigrant.
Not about himself.
Gottfried Benn did not laugh.
He stayed at home,
and Klabund was dead. Consumption.

Obituaries on the wind.
Important the illusion.

A week in grief.
Then: the rooms again for rent.

The sea beating with new waves.
All questions open again.

Reaching the border.
Going on.

Copyrighted 1995-2005
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 03:26 PM
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15. My dear Ladyhawk!
I am still in my nightie and bathrobe.....

I'm posting and listening to my favorite classical radio station here in Los Angeles: KUSC, 91.5!

One of these hours, I need to get up off my duff, take my shower and consider what else I am going to do today.....

I have things to do, to be sure....just am completely unmotivated!

I blame all my lack of motivation on DU!

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MiniMandaRuth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 03:57 PM
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16. Good afternoon, CaliforniaPeggy!
How are you today?

:hi:
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 04:52 PM
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22. Hi my dear MiniMandaRuth!
I am fine, if unmotivated, today! I need to get out of here, and get cleaned up.....

Been sitting here FAR TOO LONG and reading some of the threads I've archived.....

A BIG trip down memory lane....what good times indeed......

Hope your day is going well, too!
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 05:38 PM
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26. Wow, it sounds like me most days.
"Uncle Owen! This R2-unit has a bad motivator! Look!"

As a kid, I had the dialogue for the Star Wars movies committed to memory and when I can't get motivated, Luke's words from Episode IV pop into my head. Pretty silly, huh?

Can I blame my "bad motivator" on DU, too? We could sue Skinner. :hide:
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 06:35 PM
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37. Well, we could try!
Of course, their snappy comeback would be that it's entirely voluntary for our being here in the first place!

Good thought, though!
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 06:46 PM
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40. That's the same argument Phillip Morris uses...I see a precedent! n/t
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MiniMandaRuth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 03:58 PM
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17. I'm sitting ar my computer
with my 'Everybody Loves a Nerd' shirt on, waiting to go to the mall with my parents.

Oh, and I'm listening to Christmas music from the seventies.
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 05:48 PM
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27. You've inspired me to pop in some Carpenters Christmas music.
It's all your fault! :)
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 03:59 PM
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18. Working on my website and rocking out to Mission of Burma
Good times.
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tjwmason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 04:08 PM
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19. Just checking my e-mail right now
and noticing nobody replying to my music thread :cry:

I'm about to go off and make some soup though - I make a large container of it to have for lunch during the week. Celery and cashew today. :D
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 04:17 PM
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20. Working.
Not very hard, as you can tell. ;)
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ThatsMyBarack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 05:54 PM
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28. Watching....
....the ISU Grand Prix of Figure Skating on TV (Cup of Russia)! ;)
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6000eliot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 06:11 PM
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31. Why are you doing it?
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 07:26 PM
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42. Because I need the $25 bucks.
That's a lot of money for me. :) Besides, I feel like it's the right thing to do since I might be related to this person. :shrug:
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6000eliot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 07:39 PM
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46. Will you ever know without a blood test?
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 07:58 PM
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51. Well, I hope what little poetry I've written is better than what I edited
today. :crazy:

Still, anyone that puts forth the effort to be creative should be commended. It's the process that counts and if she enjoyed herself, that's all that matters. I'm sure more proficient people would rip apart my stories, my singing voice, my piano playing and my artwork, but at least I got some pleasure by doing those things.
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ContraBass Black Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 06:18 PM
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32. Reading your post instead of writing a proposal
That's due Tuesday and barely started. Somebody ought to kick me.
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 07:27 PM
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43. Your wish is my command.
:kick::crazy:

Would you care for a paddling, as well? :spank:
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ContraBass Black Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 07:55 PM
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50. I probably need it. I came back to read your response
Instead of getting to work.
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BamaGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 06:26 PM
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33. That does not sound like fun
Most nights I end up editing my husband's reports before he turns them in. Sometimes it's entertaining, but mostly it's just annoying. :P

I'm playing with a blog template and wondering what to cook for dinner.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 06:28 PM
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34. Working.
Eating chinese food. Thinking about the shit load of work I have to get done tonight and tommorrow.

Besides that, all is well! :hi:
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 06:38 PM
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38. Listening to bad music. Bad Christmas music, in fact.
For example,

Pansy Division- Homo Christmas

You'll probably get sweaters
Underwear and socks
But what you'd really like for Christmas
Is a nice hard cock
You deserve a cute boy
Who's horny and queer
To make the most out of Christmas cheer
I wanna be your Christmas present
I wanna be your Christmas queer
I wanna be your Christmas present
Have a homo Christmas this year
Don't be miserable
Like Morrissey
Let me do you
underneath the Christmas tree
We'll push the packages
Out of the way
And after you've unwrapped me
Naked on the floor we'll play
Your family
Won't give you encouragement
But let me give you
Sexual nourishment
Licking nipples
Licking nuts
Putting candy canes
Up each other's butts
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LSdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 07:37 PM
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44. Attempting to study
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 07:38 PM
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45. Drinking champagne and wasting time in the Lounge.
That's what I'm doing.
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carpetbagger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 07:51 PM
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49. I wrote some bad poetry today.
Every now and then I try, and it ends up sounding like Walt Whitman Does Color-by-Numbers.

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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 07:59 PM
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54. As I wrote in the post above, sometimes all that matters is the creative
process. Maybe the end result isn't all that great, but if we enjoy ourselves, that's all that matters. I hope this lady doesn't give two shits what I think of her poetry.
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dorktv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 07:58 PM
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52. Checking signatures for a local candidate.
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 08:29 PM
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59. See Also: "Bad Birdy Poetry" Post
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