Deja Q
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Fri Nov-21-03 08:10 PM
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If the "constitutional" anti-gay amendment comes into effect, ALL GLBT... |
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folk MUST do this:
Write, protest, complain out loud. Not just at the repuke hypocrisy but this travesty will permanently reduce us to second class citizens.
If I am a second class citizen, am to be treated like one, beaten up like one, taunted like one, then you damn well bet I'm not going to contribute like a first class citizen would.
No more Mr. Nice Liberal. Not any more. x(
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Fri Nov-21-03 08:16 PM
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1. word up to that hypnotoad |
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I am so scared of this amendment. I mean, I am not too concerned about state constitutions banning gay marriage because it could always be voted out later -- and that could be fifteen years from now when there is more of a general acceptance. But when I heard the words "Constiutional Amendment", I went into hyper-mode. I could believe my ears.
Some people say that it would never be passed. Well, Alcohol prohibition passed in the US. This could pass easily as well if there is no movement to stop it. We have to have a second civil rights movement here in the US because we are going back to our regressive ways.
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Fri Nov-21-03 08:22 PM
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The door slammed shut...permanently...on gay marriage. Civil unions (there goes Vermont). Domestic registries. Gone.
Hell, this thing can set us back at least 50 years.
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Fri Nov-21-03 08:44 PM
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13. And hate crimes laws... |
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Their importance will be whittled away as well.
Thanks to vermin like President "Uniter"* and Governor Pawlenty who support this kettle of cack. x(
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Fri Nov-21-03 08:21 PM
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I will leave this country once and for all.
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Fri Nov-21-03 08:22 PM
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3. I haven't heard about the "amendment" you're speaking |
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of, but it doesn't sound very consitutional. And all of us will fight with you!
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Fri Nov-21-03 08:26 PM
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Amendments don't need to be constitutional - they are modifications TO the constitution, and thus automatically become constitutional upon being ratified.
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Fri Nov-21-03 08:33 PM
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9. Which is why this is so devastating. |
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I can hear it now....
"Well, see, they can't even get married to each other, so I guess there's no real reason to allow 'em to feel pertekted 'n all. Mebbe we oughta jus' leddem do what they do 'n if someone don't like it, well I guess that's just the price they pay fer it 'n all...."
Christ. I grew up around that shit. I thought it would stop once I grew up, I really did. It seems I was wrong.
Mark my words: this goes down and next you'll see people starting to justify the Amendment as grounds to repeal all laws pertaining to GLBT folks. We may even see propositions that penalties for crimes committed against us actually be reduced because it isn't even 'moral enough' to base a 'marriage' on.
Don't bet against it.
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Fri Nov-21-03 08:46 PM
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15. Just thought of something |
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Don't constitutional amendments have to be ratified by a minimum number of states?
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Fri Nov-21-03 08:59 PM
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although the costal states like New York, California, Oregon, and Washington probably wouldn't ratify, expect the entire South, midwest, and maybe Pennsylvania and a few other states to join in. They only need 3/4 of the states.
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Deja Q
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Fri Nov-21-03 08:48 PM
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16. America the Hypocracy |
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All men are created equal.
Yet men can only marry what is said in this crusty worthless document that's better used as toilet paper for elephants. (pun very much intented, sadly becaus repukes are using the Constitution AS toilet paper.)
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Fri Nov-21-03 08:28 PM
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6. It's called the Federal Marriage Amendment. |
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Sponsored by Rep. Marilyn Musgrave (R) of Maryland. 180 co-sponsors in the House.
Senator Bill Frist has already gone on record supporting it. A Senate committee, chaired by John Cornyn (R) of Texas has been holding hearings on it.
The White House has said that if the Massachusetts Supreme Court rules that gay people cannot be denied legal marriage, that the President could support it.
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Fri Nov-21-03 08:28 PM
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7. If you want more information about it |
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click here: http://www.aclu.org/LesbianGayRights/LesbianGayRights.cfm?ID=9977&c=100This is the scariest amendment I have ever seen. If this passes, it will be the first time discrimination has been put into our constiution.
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Fri Nov-21-03 08:29 PM
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I'm not GLBT, but I would still speak out for you!
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Fri Nov-21-03 08:36 PM
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10. they WANT us to be left out |
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that's what this is all about.
"Married people are special" is the message they are sending.
bullshit, Bullshit, BULLSHIT!!!
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Deja Q
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Fri Nov-21-03 08:50 PM
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17. My apologies to the 'straight but not narrow' folk!!! |
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All GLBT must fight back if we are to be treated worse than animals in a zoo. But the SbnN folk are welcome to join in, of course!!
I wonder what the Log Cabin Duncels are thinking these days...
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Fri Nov-21-03 08:40 PM
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11. Would Canada open its doors? |
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Sounds like we'd be subject to persecution at home. This could drive me from my country faster than anything from PNAC.
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Fri Nov-21-03 08:43 PM
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12. So should all "straight but not narrow" folks |
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Edited on Fri Nov-21-03 08:43 PM by geniph
Repeat after me: there is nothing queer about loving another human being!
Damn busybodies, trying to tell people who they can and cannot love. What a bunch of hooey.
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Deja Q
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Fri Nov-21-03 08:46 PM
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14. Much thanks to the 'straight but not narrow' folk as well! |
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Your sentiment and support is greatly appreciated!
:yourock:
Still, it hasn't passed yet. But if it does, none of us must let any elected official get one second's worth of peace.
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Fri Nov-21-03 09:03 PM
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always gives republicans bad haircuts, pass it on.
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Fri Nov-21-03 09:24 PM
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20. If the Dems do not vote against this as a block and it passes |
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Edited on Fri Nov-21-03 09:25 PM by roughsatori
I will NEVER vote for a Democrat again. I will join the Green Party the day it passes (if it passes).
The way the Dems have been consistently letting the Republicans get what they want I would not be surprised at all if they pull the usual: Some of them will speak out harshly about it--but behind closed doors votes will be swapped and enough Dems will vote for it to pass. If this happens, I will work against the Dems as well as the Repukes.
I refuse to put off my civil rights while the Democratic Party finds its soul again. I can hear the moderates now: "Please don't make an issue of this, we need to concentrate on ABB." My reply: "Go to Hell, just because you made a deal with the devil does not mean I will."
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Fri Nov-21-03 09:45 PM
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21. If this comes to pass |
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I will honestly look to leave this country.
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Fri Nov-21-03 09:59 PM
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22. I'm not even waiting until it's formally introduced |
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I'm making up bumper stickers that read
The Federal Marriage Amendment is UNCONSTITUTIONAL
And after today's article in the post, another one (I'm a Marylander)
Governor Ehrlich is an oxymoron
I'm writing my senators, Mikulski and Sarbanes my congressman, Steny Hoyer my state representatives: Senator Tom Mitchell Delegates Sally Jameson, Van Mitchell, and W.L. Hennesey, along with Pres. MD Senate, Mike Miller MD Speaker, Michael Busch and, as if he'd read it, * himself and telling them that the FMA is designed to institutionalize discrimination against U.S. citizens -- discrimination based upon an immutable trait. (Sound familiar?)
Tell me what logical mind thinks it's okay to do a genitals check before issuing a couple a marriage license? Tell me what rational mind honestly believes that if we married gay Americans are actually treated like married couples, irreparable harm will come to families? God dammit, we ARE families, just like any others.
My marriage with Kathy is referred to as a "marriage," with bitter, ugly derision, because neither of us has a penis? My best friend Dale & his Ty -- their lives are similary marginalized because neither of them has a vagina?
FUCK THAT!
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GLBT Americans, mobilize. Straight Americans, help us. Please.
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