SHIT!!!!!!!!

[leftyandproud]

They are changing votes...this damn madicare plan is going to pass!!!

WE'RE SCREWED!
Bush will get credit for anything that passes....damn it...!!

[onebigbadwulf]

1. goddamn pansies

such fools

[ronzo]

2. Wha?

Motion to reconsider?

edit: 15 minute vote to table.

[nadinbrzezinski]

3. Now we have all the parlamentary manouvers

[leftyandproud]

5. it doesnt matter

the assholes have the majority and they are going to get credit...why didn't the senate filibuster this thing?? Not only will Bush get credit for pumping 400+ billion into medicare but the dems will be labeled as obstructionists...seriously, it LOOKS BAD! I know the Bill was horrible...but the fact is, most people will not understand how a major increase can be bad for recepients...and the gop will play to the fools like they always do.

[nadinbrzezinski]

7. I just love the reactiion by most

they have the majority, yuo are right, but this is looking more and
more like an albatros, just look at the reaction to the AARP suporting this turkey

[girl gone mad]

9. Oh, I agree with you.

I was excited about the possibility of this thing failing, for the sake of not having our seniors stuck with a crappy bill (and the dems getting a spine), but the GOP will not be able to hold their heads high over this one. They've managed to mobilize seniors to vote Dem better than we ever could.

[nadinbrzezinski]

10. Oh we got it and then Delay played games

But the truth is the GOP has mobilized the Seniors agains them

And also the military...

In other words, two consituencies that VOTE and have been royally
screwed by the GOP

[Blue-Jay]

20. A filibuster would have been the WORST thing imagineable.

Would you rather the BFEE take credit for passing this, or get mileage out of a Democratic filibuster on this issue? We need the AARP, like it or not.

Is this whole bill a political manuever to gain AARP votes? You bet it is.

Would a filibuster on this bill have lost us more votes next year? Damn straight.

The passing of this is the proverbial "lesser of two evils". Sometimes, you just gotta take a punch in order to leave yourself open to counter. Sad but true.

[girl gone mad]

4. So, what was the final tally..?

I missed the last few minutes. Did the drop the gavel just after convincing 2 to switch or what?

[leftyandproud]

6. 220-215

f*ck

[onebigbadwulf]

8. What the hell

goddammit

[leftyandproud]

11. double damn

9 defectors...they can kiss their seats goodbye next election

[WannaJumpMyScooter]

21. Have a list.?.. I cant find one yet ---- ne4vermind... I see it

thanks

[nofurylike]

12. it's to the senate *today*

so, make those calls.

be well, all.

peace!

[murielm99]

13. Who did this?

Wonderful, just wonderful!

Now my husband and I will probably have to work at Wal-mart as greeters when we are eighty years old, just to pay for our prescriptions. If any of us live that long, and if we have a country at all, that is.

His pension is tied up in Putnam, too, one of the mutual funds that the bastards have been stealing from.

Point me in the direction of the revolution, people. I am ready to hit the streets.

[Deja Q]

15. Welcome to DU!

I'm with you, I'll be on the streets with you too.

[WannaJumpMyScooter]

18. Time for me to remember where I buried that damn Ak47 I had

...think, think, think.

It may be needed reallll soon.

[Raven]

19. Welcome! You've come to the right place!

:hi:

[chaska]

14. The House will pass any damn thing.

We'll stop 'em in the Senate. Don't fret, my pet.

[Kellanved]

16. it gets worse

Just to prepare you: Schroeder said today that Iraq's debt in Germany might be waived. While I think that it's a sensible thing to do, I fear that it will be spun into a diplomatic success.

(Sidenote: Siemens won a $100 Million contract to rebuild part of the Iraqi power infrastructure. This might be a coincidence, especially as Siemens is a very conservative company (gives more money to the conservatives and suspected in all recent party-funding scandals), but it's strange nonetheless.)

[cosmicdot]

17. what in the'ell is wrong with these people - 16 Dem traitors

The 220-215 roll call Saturday by which the House approved Medicare
legislation.


16 Dems voted w/Republicans
25 Republicans bolted

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/ap/20031122/ap_on_go_co/house_rollcall_medicare&e=3

VIRGINIA Democrats — Boucher, Yes
UTAH Democrats — Matheson, Yes (Y)
TEXAS Democrats — Hall, Y; Stenholm, Y
TENNESSEE Democrats — Davis, Y
OREGON Democrats — Wu, Y
OKLAHOMA Democrats — Carson, Y
MINNESOTA Democrats — Peterson, Y
LOUISIANA Democrats — Alexander, Y; John, Y
GEORGIA Democrats — Marshall, Y; Scott, Y
FLORIDA Democrats — Boyd, Y
CALIFORNIA Democrats — Dooley, Y
ALABAMA Democrats — Cramer, Y

[BurtWorm]

22. FLORIDA Democrats -- Boyd, Y

Brave or foolish?

[Lady Freedom]

23. Kick

:kick: