Disney made anti-nazi cartoons?

[jbm]

http://www.toontracker.com/realvid/realvid.htm

About a third of the way down the page..it's called "Education For Death". I dunno..it's just weird.

[onebigbadwulf]

1. Hmmm

crazy. I wonder much of that is accurate.

[MrBenchley]

2. One of the weirdest

was a Donald Duck cartoon built around the Spike Jones song "Der Fuehrer's Face." Look at it today and imagine a Mickey Mouse head wherever there's a swastika..and it's Disneyland!

If you don't know it, Der Fuehrer's Face was a great song from WW2...released about two weeks after Pearl Harbor, the tune was an actual Nazi marching song given the Spike Jones treatment (including a wonderful "plbplbplb!" fart sound)...

When der fuehrer says
We is the master race
Then it's Heil! plbplbplb!
Heil! plbplbplb!
Right in der Fuehrer's face!
Not to love der Fuehrer
Is a great disgrace
so it's Heil! (plbplbplb!)
Heil! (plbplbplb!)
Right in der Fuehrer's face!

Is we not all Supermen?
Aryan Pure
Supermen?
Ja, we is all supermen!
(Thuper-duper Thupermen!)

Is this Nazi land so good?
Would you leave it if you could?
Ja, this land is not so good
We would leave it if we could!

We bring the world new order
Heil Hitler means new order
Everyone of foreign race
Will love der fuehrer's face
When we bring to der world
Dis order...

[jmowreader]

24. Disney was first to release the song

The cartoon was first called "Donald in Nutziland" and was changed to "Der Fuehrer's Face" to coincide with the song.

Among the vivid images from this cartoon: Donald opening his wall safe, pulling out his coffee and dropping one bean into a cup; Donald working at his job in a munitions plant where they'd send a shell then a picture of Hitler then a shell...and he had to stop and throw a Bush Salute every time he saw the Hitler picture, which meant he was throwing that right arm up more than Dubya does.

Add lots of images of Nutzis marching and you get a true work of propaganda, not the half-ass propaganda we've been seeing lately.

At long last, you learn that Donald is safe at home in the USA and it's all been just a nightmare.

[Silverhair]

3. Funny. Bookmarked the page. n/t

[Melsky]

4. Bummer

I wish I had high speed access so I could watch these. I used to have a great videotape of cartoons Warner Brothers made to show the US troops in WW2. They were fascinating. The weirdest one had a bull that killed himself so the troops could eat him, then came back as a ghost and kicked the ass of one soldier who wasted food.

[Silverhair]

8. They are set to stream at 56K. n/t

[Maple]

5. All part of the 'war effort'

or propaganda of the times, they all did it...Bugs, Mickey, Popeye...the segments all culled from the reruns now.

[jmowreader]

25. There is one they still show

The one with Bugs Bunny and the gremlin. It's very cute.

[xray s]

6. If you like the song

You can hear it while watching "Bush is not a Nazi" at takebackthemedia.com.

[HawkerHurricane]

7. Not only Disney...

You should see some of Theodore Giesel's (Dr. Suess) stuff from that time period...

All of Hollywierd joined in the 'Anti-Axis' bandwagon...

Which just goes to show that if the country is truly in danger, we all will unite.

[Silverhair]

9. Not quite. The far left only got on the bandwagon when

Hitler attacked Russia. Until then Stalin & Hitler had a non-agression pact, and the far left was against war with Germany, even though Hitler had already declared war on us.

[5thGenDemocrat]

10. Not right

Hitler attacked Russia on June 22, 1941. Japan bombed Pearl Harbor on Dec. 7, 1941 -- almost six months later.
John
And Germany didn't declare war on "us" until a couple of days after that.

[HawkerHurricane]

11. Hehehe

Did you know FDR didn't ask congress to declare war on Germany? He didn't because he knew that the Republicans would refuse! The 'Far Right' didn't want to go to war with Germany, period! And still went on selling things to Germany well into 1944!
Sure, the Communist dupes were 'pro Germany' until Hitler attacked Russia; but members of the Republican party stayed 'pro Nazi' well into the 1990's...

[TexasMexican]

12. Axis America

I remember seeing a show on the History channel how Germany was trying to get a coup d'eta going here in the US and get a government that was more pro-germany installed.

I know they had good ties with Ford and other American Industrialists, they were trying to get some Army General in on it to lead. I forget his name, might have been Stillwell or something, but he wanted no part of it.

[HawkerHurricane]

13. Gen Smedley Butler, USMC

Most decorated marine of all time, was recruited by a right wing cartell to be the American Fuhrer, and then sold them all out. No one was prosecuted, FDR couldn't handle the political fallout of a dozen very wealthy industrialists being arrested for wanting to overthrow the government.

[jbm]

26. I'd never heard of Smedley Butler..

until you mentioned him in this thread. Your post intrigued me so I went and looked him up. I found this speech he made on interventionism. He must have been a great guy! (thanks for the lead)

http://www.fas.org/man/smedley.htm

<snip>War is just a racket. A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of people. Only a small inside group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few at the expense of the masses.

I believe in adequate defense at the coastline and nothing else. If a nation comes over here to fight, then we'll fight. The trouble with America is that when the dollar only earns 6 percent over here, then it gets restless and goes overseas to get 100 percent. Then the flag follows the dollar and the soldiers follow the flag.

I wouldn't go to war again as I have done to protect some lousy investment of the bankers. There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. War for any other reason is simply a racket.

There isn't a trick in the racketeering bag that the military gang is blind to. It has its "finger men" to point out enemies, its "muscle men" to destroy enemies, its "brain men" to plan war preparations, and a "Big Boss" Super-Nationalistic-Capitalism. <snip>

[CanuckAmok]

17. I forget the exact details, but...

it was either GM or Ford Motor Coompany...

They successfully sued the US Government in 1946, because the Air Force had bombed one of their factories in Germany. They had leased the factory to Messerschmit in the late 30s.

I caught that on Radio Free America with Dave Emory a few years ago.

[ronzo]

14. Yes indeed.

I've seen some of those Giesel cartoons. Brutally racist. As posted above, very "time and place".

[HawkerHurricane]

15. Giesel, racist?

If anything, they were anti racist!
(oh, wait: they were very racist against Japanese. But Giesel made a big deal about the unwillingness of manufacturers to hire blacks; he held thier feet to the fire over that!)

[ronzo]

16. I was referring to his cartoons...

that were anti-Japanese. Once again, "time and place".
cheers.

[WannaJumpMyScooter]

18. He had to, he was jailed during WWI as a CO

I am sure since he was a big shot by WWII, Hoover gave him a polite phone call and asked if he remembered his time in a cell on Governor's Island in NY harbor.

[HawkerHurricane]

19. Now I have heard everything...

I have heard that Walt Disney got a dishonorable discharge from the Army for
Drug addiction
Homosexuality
Bribery
CO...

Meanwhile, back at scopes...
http://www.snopes.com/disney/waltdisn/discharg.htm

Claim: Walt Disney received a dishonorable discharge from the military during World War I.
Status: False.

Origins: In 1918, sixteen-year-old Walt Disney was eager to take part in the war in Europe but was too young to join the military. After a plan to enlist in the Canadian Army fell through, Walt signed up with the American Ambulance Corps, a division of the Red Cross, by lying about his age. In November of 1918, after the war had ended, Disney's outfit was shipped across the Atlantic to France.

Walt Disney was assigned to an evacuation hospital in Paris, where he drove trucks and ambulances and ferried military officers from place to place. In February of 1919, Walt and another driver were selected to transport a load of beans and sugar from Paris to Soissons, but their truck broke down in the French countryside during freezing mid-February weather. Walt dispatched his assistant to return to Paris via train while he stayed with the truck, but after two days of waiting Disney finally made his way to the nearest village in search of food and shelter. After sleeping for nearly a day, young Walt returned to the site of the breakdown to find that the truck was gone. (Disney's assistant, after taking time out for a two-day drunken binge, had finally notified authorities about the disabled truck, and it had been towed back to Paris.) When Walt returned to headquarters in Paris he faced a disciplinary board for having abandoned his truck, but the board found that Disney had taken reasonable steps to safeguard the vehicle and did not move to dismiss him from his volunteer duty.

The legend about Walt Disney's dishonorable discharge seems to have begun with the notion that he hung his release from the Red Cross upside-down behind his desk. Even though neither Walt's Red Cross release nor anything else was hung upside-down in his office, the rumor of the upside-down certificate somehow got started and was taken as a sign of Disney's displeasure with his experience in France; over time his volunteer duty with the Red Cross (a civilian organization) was mistaken for actual military service, and his release was transformed into a dishonorable discharge. Thus arose the legend that Walt Disney had not only been dishonorably discharged from the military, but that he was proud of it -- so proud, in fact, that he hung his dishonorable discharge on the wall of his office for all the world to see on his weekly television show. (The "office" depicted in Disney's television broadcasts was merely a soundstage mock-up, however -- his real office was never shown.) The apocryphal story of Walt's dishonorable discharge spread widely and was even repeated on official tours of the Pentagon and told to recruits in basic training. Some versions of the legend included the detail that an influential congressman had offered to "fix" Disney's discharge and turn it into a honorable one, but Walt declined the favor.

Why people believe that Disney would have been proud of a dishonorable discharge is rather puzzling. In the closest thing Walt left to an autobiography (The Story of Walt Disney, putatively written by his daughter Diane), he spoke only positively of his time in France: "The things I did during those eleven months I was overseas added up to a lifetime of experience. It was such a valuable experience that I feel that if we have to send our boys into the Army we should send them even younger than we do. I know being on my own at an early age has made me more self-reliant . . ." Presumably Disney's image as a creative and inventive artist seemed at odds with the conformity required by military service, and people believed Walt was proud of not having fit in with such an organization. As the legend of Disney's dishonorable discharge grew, the incident with the abandoned truck in France was dredged up as the reason for the discharge.

[WannaJumpMyScooter]

20. I love it. Thanks. BTW, when I was stationed at GI, that was

part of the official tour of the island. Pretty amazing the things that get reported as fact.
I had always accepted it, because, well, the Coast Guard said so. Never thought to look on Snopes.

My sincerest apologies for spreading falsehoods.

And utter amazement that that story was reported at all.

[HawkerHurricane]

21. Not really

A lot of people hate Disney, and will say whatever to tear him down.
Also, a lot of people want to take advantage of the Disney legend, and will attribute to him what they want to support.

[ZoCrowes]

22. NOW THAT

IS SOME GOOD PROPAGANDA!! Laughed my ass off the whole time with Hitler and the German Sleeping Beauty

[PurityOfEssence]

23. Yes, well, that was when there was still a "fairness doctrine"

I just sleep well at night knowing that he'd be spinning in his grave to see a Jewish Democrat like Mike Eisner running his company now, but I still toss a bit with the knowledge of what a union-busting autocrat that "Democrat" is...