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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 01:44 PM
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Poll question: Poll - Highest Degree Obtained
I am curious about the makeup of DUers in terms of highest degree obtained. Are we that far off of the general population?

Here are the census numbers:

Doctorate - 1.3%
Professional Degree - 1.6%
Masters - 6.8%
Bachelors - 19.8%
Assoc. Degree - 9.2%
Some College - 20.1%
High School Degree - 30.6%
9th - 11th Grade - 7.3%
None to 8th Grade - 3.4%

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dobak Donating Member (808 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 01:48 PM
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1. B.S. in Mass Communication: Advertising
Planning on going back to school for a joint Veterinary/MBA program

Then, see if I can talk my rich father-in-law and his friends into giving me a start-up loan and open a Vet Clinic

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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 01:49 PM
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2. Go for it!
I worked for a vet in High School. I've got to say, I learned a great deal from that job than many others I have had.

I never could quite stomach the putting animals to sleep bit, however.

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dobak Donating Member (808 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 01:53 PM
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6. Yes, that will be hard
I will have to make myself look at it very pragmatically:

I support assisted suicide in cases of incurable diseases

While a dog/cat/etc. cannot verbally give consent, I assume most pet owners won't bring in the animal until they feel that the animal has given its consent in some way.
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 01:50 PM
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3. Not sure where I go....
Probably down there near the bottom.

Got into an International Baccalaureate school my junior year, so I didn't graduate from high school (no diploma).

Got into college before I sat my exams for the IB, blew them off (went drinking with a damn Welshman), so didn't graduate from the IB school (no diploma).

Got into music before I finished college, had five years but not the right credits (no diploma).

I'm thinking I should apply to grad school, and before I finish my dissertation, see if I can get into medical school. ;)
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 01:51 PM
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4. how about ABD?
much more than a masters but not the phd.
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 01:59 PM
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7. I've been there Salin
Call yourself Doctor. You are almost there!
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 02:16 PM
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14. well... thanks - but actually
I chose to go 'terminally abd'. Long story. Ironically the work I did after I left formal academe - led to serious data crunching some publishing and a book. But have left that work as well to found a nonprofit. The long of it - when I went it wasn't to go into academics (I am a prof brat) - half way through the degree shifted focus ... started gearing towards academic profession (but my heart was never in it)... was at a prestigious place so it felt like leaving wasn't an option - and there I was... all my peers were getting good first jobs at research institutions... and I was getting antsy as heck (imagine realizing you are on a conveyor belt leading in one direction, and being sucked into believing that while one didn't want to go in that direction that one was exceptionally fortunate, because others on similar conveyor belts didn't have the same chances of landing those competitive jobs...) Finally took a year off to work on an independent film, and help a friend with a start-up company, while I got some distance and perspective. THEN I could decide whether to spend 1-2 more years (data collection/analysis/writing) on the dissertation - or work towards spending in the future that same amount of time (with next to no pay) starting the nonprofit which had been in my minds' eye since before I started the program. So I left with candidacy, all of the course work, and the dissertation research designed... but with the joy of feeling back in command of the direction I was going. And here I am - trying to raise a boatload of money - but with a 2 year old nonprofit that now pays a couple of salaries...

During the interim job at a policy center at a U - had lots of encouragement to finish ... but had really come to peace with myself and was at the U to earn/save money for the start-up period for the nonprofit - rather than head back onto the conveyor belt and delay the real dream. So there I be... terminally ABD. :D
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 02:20 PM
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17. Ahhhh....
I'll still call you Doc! ;)

It sounds like you know what you want and are going for it. Good for you!
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 02:29 PM
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20. I appreciate that
:D I really do. I have long since realized I needed much more preparation than a MA would have ever given me - including analyzing data and evaluating research, and designing evaluations that rise to the level of research (were one to be attempting to go that direction.) Had I realized I wasn't going for the full degree earlier - might have left sooner. Wouldn't have benefited as I have. That said - absolutely no regrets on this end (except, esp being a prof brat, sometimes I feel i have to explain the decision... its a compulsive response!)
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 04:15 PM
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22. There's ABMT, too.
Edited on Sat Nov-22-03 04:18 PM by TahitiNut
:shrug: As well as multiple undergraduate degrees. Master's work can be particularly extensive beyond one's undergraduate, especially when it's in a different discipline.

(It's too bad us 'messy' human beings don't fit compliantly into nice, neat categories.) :silly:
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 08:54 PM
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27. hey - complexity
(prefer that over 'messiness') keeps things interesting!
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 05:30 PM
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25. That Would Be Post Grad Work...
I did twenty four hours of post grad work in Government at FSU...
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 08:57 PM
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28. That works
can one say post masters work? Over 100+ hours - two fields; (most of it in a major policy program.)
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Catholic Sensation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 01:51 PM
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5. I think on free republic the breakdown is
Doctorate - .01%
Prof. Degree - 0%
Masters - .1%
B.A. or B.S. - 1%
Accosiate's - .5%
Some College - 3%
High School - 7%
9-11th - 15%
< 9th - 73.39%

with the 1.61% representing DUer's who have signed up on their forums :D

The some college for Freepers means they accidently wandered onto the campus of one, since we know that conservatives hate education and would never willingly go to school :D
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 02:00 PM
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8. I wish somebody would do a poll to see how many SS, CIA, FBI
people lurk on this board...

and how many elected officials, congressional assistants, movie stars, "famous people", etc lurk or post. Since the polls are annonymous...I wonder if they'd let us know through a poll??

Just curious:shrug:

:kick:

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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 02:02 PM
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9. I've seen those here before
Not a surprisingly large number -- although not zero... :)
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Champion Jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 02:43 PM
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21. Third grade is the best 4 years of a Freepers life
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 02:03 PM
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10. MA - Poli Sci
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Oracle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 02:06 PM
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11. Jethro and I graduated six grade together...I know which shoe goes on what
foot, so don't tell me I'm ignorant, you shithead!

Would you like to hear me cipher...2x2=4 4x4=17...you didn't know that...shit, your in for a real treat...



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Leftist78 Donating Member (609 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 02:10 PM
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12. B.S. Poli-Sci (n/t)
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Superfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-23-03 09:57 PM
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32. Poli-Sci....why try?
Was the slogan my friends used....
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 02:12 PM
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13. 105
Had a bad tonsil infection when I was 8, and it really kicked up my fever.
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greekspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 02:18 PM
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15. Someday I will have this PhD done and I can move up a slot!
:-)
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 02:25 PM
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19. Keep jumping through those hoops, greekspeak!
It'll be over before you know it.

Good luck!
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Oracle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 02:20 PM
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16. Wow, youall must be real smart or somethin..OK eyes have a questioin
What's the loudest nost stupidest noise in the world...wrong, and yoz callz yourself smart...answer

Highest Degree Obtained and I paid for my own education.
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 02:24 PM
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18. Actually, I have a hypothesis...
You hear conservatives talk about how liberals are all out of touch with the general population due to having too many degrees. I don't think we are that far off in terms of degrees obtained. So, I think that liberals are extremely intelligent regardless of a piece of paper.
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Catholic Sensation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 04:32 PM
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23. Here's how it works, and it's not meant to be slanderous of conservatives
But the more educated one is, the more likely they are going to be, at least, socially liberal. Like at my parents' workplace. They (most of them) understand that homosexuality is not some kind of choice to "rebel" or screw shit up. They understand that women deserve a right to choose. They realize health care for everyone is not a bad thing. Kind of like Arnold, with the only difference being IQs (my parent's co-workers have an iq, arnold doesn't). It seems the less you know about something, the more afraid you are to accept, or at least tolerate it.

People like Limbaugh and Hannity are good examples of this. Neither attended enough college to have a complete perspective of the world.

There are exceptions to the case, like Mann Coulter. She went to Michigan (I think she played Linebacker before dropping two hundred pounds to 34), but she's still an airhead.
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Bossy Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 05:18 PM
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24. Dr Dantzler's just looking for another chance to mention the Ph.D
:P
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 08:50 PM
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26. Oh, have I mentioned that lately?
Edited on Sat Nov-22-03 08:51 PM by Stuckinthebush
;)

What happened to SC tonight? Clemson is beating their butts!

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RobinA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 10:05 PM
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29. Working on MS
in Counseling Psychology at the ripe old age of 45. Looking at Psy.D. programs and being glad none I see interest me, since it's just not doable at this point. If it could be done parttime, it might be a consideration.....
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sleepyhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-23-03 09:36 PM
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30. Doctor of veterinary medicine
And a terminal master's degree, left over from when I thought I might want to be a chemist! (Little Miss Overeducated, that's me!)
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jbm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-23-03 09:55 PM
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31. I'm looking at this poll...
and I'm equally impressed and intimidated at the same time.:)

Mostly I'm just proud to be a part of this group!
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Sting Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-23-03 10:01 PM
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33. Currently working on my B.A. in Geology/Chemistry...
hoping to make it as far as my Ph.D.
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BringEmOn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-23-03 10:33 PM
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34. B.A./Ed.
B-)
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-23-03 10:54 PM
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35. B.A. in Philosophy, UCSB
Class of 2001, represent baby!
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-23-03 11:02 PM
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36. MFA - Professional Writing
It really impressed the grocery manager at my interview.
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-23-03 11:06 PM
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37. In progress on BS degree
(not sure from there)
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