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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 09:54 AM
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My sooterkin is a sloberchops (article on how language changes)
Edited on Sun Dec-11-05 09:55 AM by JohnyCanuck
No, those aren't made up words. They're old English words that have fallen out of use. Here's an interesting article on how the English language changes and evolves over time from the Barbados Nation News.


On The Other Hand – My sooterkin's a sloberchops
Published on: 12/11/05.

BY PETER LAURIE

<snip>

The one unchanging feature of language is change. By definition any change is a deviation from the standard. Thus a mistake becomes part of the mainstream and no one thinks of it as wrong.

For example, someone who would sneer if he saw use books for sale would not lift an eyebrow if he saw ice cream for sale. Yet both arose because some illiterate stopped pronouncing the 'd' at the end of the word. The only difference is that ice cream is now universally accepted.

We also lost such expressive words as fribble for a frivolous person, bossloper for a hermit, puckerstoppled for embarrassed and bantling for an infant. There were also the marvellous sooterkin and sloberchops, to which I shall return.

I bet you think fall for autumn is an Americanism. Think again. It's an English usage that dates back to the mid-sixteenth century. It died out in England in the 19th century but remained in use in the U.S.

http://www.nationnews.com/editorial/334389596819707.php
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Strong Atheist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 10:06 AM
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1. And yet, somehow, I keep
getting into arguments with English purists who insist that the way that they learned to use words is the way that it has always been and will always be and will never change. I argue that language evolves, and words come to mean what the majority at a given time/place use them for ...
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LynzM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 10:40 AM
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2. Interesting dude, thanks!
You should cross-post this in the Languages and Linguistics group, I think people would get a kick out of it in there, too!

It's definitely interesting to look at the ways that languages changes with time. And change it does, for sure.
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 02:09 PM
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3. The word impact is a perfect example
Impact means the action of one object coming forcibly into contact with another. It is currently evolving to mean inflluence or affect.

Impacted means pressed firmly together or lodged in place, as in impacted tooth. It is currently evolving to mean the past tense of affect.
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 02:50 PM
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4. One of my biggest language peeves, Whino
OK:
"The meteor will have a tremendous impact on Earth's surface."

Not OK:
"The new Wal-Mart Supercenter will have a tremendous impact on the local economy."

Seriously freakin' not OK:
"The Wal-Mart Supercenter negatively impacted the local economy."

WTF is a negative impact? A bump?

It would be folly to deny that language doesn't evolve. But as I've always told young reporters who tried to substitute "impact" for "effect" or "affect," for example, evolution is not an excuse to foster common misuse.
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 05:06 PM
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5. I agree with "seriously freakin' not okay
Another one that annoys the hell out of me is the use of the words troop and troops.

A troop refers to a GROUP--such as a group of soldiers, a cavalry unit, an airborn unit or 18 to 24 Girl Scouts or Boy Scouts.
It is NOT, by damn, a single person... or soldier... or Girl or Boy Scout.

Troops refers to GROUPS. It does NOT mean 2 or 3 people.

Troop or trooped is also used as a verb (generally associated with a group of people), but use of the verb is irrelevant in this rant.
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_testify_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 06:48 PM
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8. I have been arguing that one for years
Also...this is a minor one but it's 'stamping grounds' and not 'stomping grounds'...

I dunno why that bothers me, but it does.
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 06:50 PM
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9. Yup... and on that note
Why do teevee asshats say troops are "on the ground"? What, like they usually hover?
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 07:53 PM
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10. Well, I suppose
that sometimes troops are in the air (on the way to getting on the ground?).
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 06:20 PM
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6. I bet they're still used in Canada.
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Pithlet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 06:24 PM
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7. I say bring back puckerstoppled
to regular, every day usage :)
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