JackSwift
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Sun Nov-23-03 07:19 PM
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Liz Taylor defends Michael Jackson -- Democrats could learn from this |
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/3231810.stmI am not commenting on the Michael Jackson case, but as a matter of loyalty to friends, Liz Taylor unequivocally shows that she's got bigger balls (or ovaries as the politically correct figure of speech may be these days) than most members of the Democratic party. Last week Democrats stood quietly by while Medicare ended. I'm tired of simpering Democrats. Grow some.
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Sun Nov-23-03 07:28 PM
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1. Courage, Not Testicles |
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Please don't use the sexist term balls as a synonym for courage. And please don't snicker at the idea of political correctness. Sexism is a reality, and it does indeed harm people. Try to avoid it.
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JackSwift
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Sun Nov-23-03 07:32 PM
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2. Please don't tell me what to do |
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Edited on Sun Nov-23-03 07:33 PM by JackSwift
I'll say what I want, where I want. And I laugh heartily at your notions of political correctness. The nation is being taken over by fascists, and it is filled with emasculated creeps who think that correcting other people's language usage is the same as doing something.
On edit:
Liz Taylor has big round brass shiny balls. Language cops do not.
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Sun Nov-23-03 07:39 PM
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there are far more pressing, acute important things than quibbling over "correctness". I am fed up withthat stuff. Too bad. The nation is being taken over by fascists--this is the task at hand--not some stupid qu9ibbling over hurt feelings because of political correctness. That is really stuffy, and quite fussy and at this time, irrelevant. Most of us do not care--we know we accept all, and we know at times we might say things that we are unaware will cause someone to become haughty and insulted--well we do not do it on purpose--to persecute other Dems here. We are, after all, only human beings.
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Sun Nov-23-03 07:41 PM
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4. Gasp..Three in a row. Someone sticking up for Liz Taylor standing by |
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Edited on Sun Nov-23-03 07:53 PM by Prodemsouth
that sicko- thats the best I can say about Jackson. I was waiting for someone to come in and take up for him here- whoomp here it is - pure silly garbage followed by inane remark from a PC police. Comparing this mess to the Dems not standing with each other ( a valid issue) is sick.
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Sun Nov-23-03 07:44 PM
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whatever happened to...innocent till proven guilty.
Or did you decide to become right wing on everyone?
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Sun Nov-23-03 07:51 PM
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13. The evidence is overwhelming. I am a private citizen- not a public |
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offical or a jurist. If condeming Jackson is viewed as "right wing" then WE(liberals/progressives) are dead meat.
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Sun Nov-23-03 07:49 PM
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9. One person's political correctness |
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Edited on Sun Nov-23-03 07:50 PM by eileen_d
is another person's "common courtesy." Sure, language is not a pressing issue compared to the evils of the Bush administration... but courtesy still counts for something.
My genitalia has nothing to do with my courage, and mentioning it is not essential to making a point. If your genitalia does, I feel sorry for you.
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Maple
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Sun Nov-23-03 07:50 PM
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11. No one is discussing your genitals |
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Be serious.
We are discussing language.
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Sun Nov-23-03 07:51 PM
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Edited on Sun Nov-23-03 07:51 PM by eileen_d
We are discussing BALLS! BALLS! BALLS!
I don't really give a shit one way or another what words were used, but I have a right to rant too.
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Sun Nov-23-03 08:38 PM
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18. So Democrats should spend their time defending Michael Jackson? |
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Could you please come up with a better analogy? I don't think the Democrats need to spend their time defending suspected child-molesters?
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Sun Nov-23-03 07:42 PM
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5. Most Dems currently in office need to be purged |
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they are a bunch of spineless losers and deserve to be kicked out of office preferably on their naked ass.
We need to clean house and get some people that actually represent us in there.
I say anyone who voted for IWR should be GONE.
Daschle should be the first to go.
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Sun Nov-23-03 08:48 PM
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19. And those who voted for IWR and Patriot Act are beneath contempt |
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And if any of those cowards vote for the Medicare bill or the Defense of Marriage Act I will work to get them OUT of office.
And if the Democratic party trades votes behind closed doors and lets the Medicare AND Defense of Marriage Act pass I will change my party affiliation to Green Party and place the Dems with the Repukes as enemies to fight.
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Sun Nov-23-03 07:42 PM
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and much bigger 'balls' than men could ever boast of.
Sit and sulk in envy.
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Sun Nov-23-03 07:46 PM
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I have VERY large balls. Huge even.
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Maple
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Sun Nov-23-03 07:49 PM
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and mine are brass honey...otherwise known as ovaries.
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Sun Nov-23-03 08:23 PM
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No argument from me...I know better than to argue with women.
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Sun Nov-23-03 07:54 PM
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14. On the contrary, Taylor exemplifies what's wrong with Dems AND |
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Repugs.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, in a court of law Jackson is "innocent until proven guilty," and the media ought to do a much better job of supporting that.
But given all the things we already know about Jackson (his background incuding a highly dysfunctional family and childhood, previous charges, etc.) and the fact that children rarely lie about stuff like this, I give Jackson no more than 99 to 1 chance of being innocent. (Sigh. Whether he will be "found guilty" or not is another matter having more to do with celebrity and the vagaries of our justice system than the fact of his guilt or innocence.)
That said, what Taylor is doing is enabling Jackson --= which is precisely what all those fools in Washington keep doing for the fascists among them AND the corrupt among them. They have completely lost their moral compass, their sense of integrity, their very souls. They stand up for virtually nothing that is good and true and right, and repeatedly defend the indefensible.
Jackson is a sick man who needs help. Even without the allegations that would be true -- he prefers living a permanent childhood and the company of children to adults and adult pursuits, for creep's sake. That alone is plenty indicative of his illness. Throw in the crotch-grabbing exhibitionism and you've got a case for "sick man" twice over. Taylor isn't helping. At all. She is choosing denial over reality, just as our fine folks in Washington do day after day after day despite vivid and incontrovertible evidence (again, on a DAILY basis) that things and people in Washington are sick and getting sicker.
Eloriel
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Sun Nov-23-03 08:02 PM
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15. You said it! Good "enabale analogy"; Taylor is acting more like the |
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Dems and others who back Bush.
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Sun Nov-23-03 08:31 PM
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17. we don't even know what the boy's side of the story is |
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how can we say he has a 99% chance of being guilty when we don't even know exactly what he is bieng accused of?
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Sun Nov-23-03 09:14 PM
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Edited on Sun Nov-23-03 09:16 PM by liberalmuse
there is a lot of evidence that suggests Michael Jackson is a very sick man who should be kept the hell away from children. Also, I like the term 'balls' to describe courage and will continue using it. I don't think of genitalia--it is a term, and if it's going to hurt the feminist movement to use this figure of speech, then god help us.
Taylor speaking up for Jackson is more Republican--they will stick together and defend each other through hell or high water. Look at Nixon, for example. The Repubs refused to investigate him until they had no other choice but to risk their own necks. I don't see this as a good thing. The Dems in Congress may be wimps (especially Daschle), but I'd rather they be honest than lie and cover for a sick, dangerous human being.
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Sun Nov-23-03 10:00 PM
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22. I Don't Think I've Learned Anything Here n/t |
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