LOTR - Return of the King

[Nazgul35]

leaves out Saureman's revenge on the shire....the whole friggin point of the trilogy!!!!

The rescue of the Shire shows that the hobbits are able to take care of themselves in addition to repudiating industrialization...

What are they thinking!!!!!

ARRRRRGGGGGGGGG......

:evilfrown:

The only thing that I think may be going on is that they have actually filmed it and will release it when the full dvd pack comes out in the spring....

[THUNDER HANDS]

1. it'll be in the extended version

Probably, which is where it should be. True LOTR fans will understand the scene better than the general population will.

[Liberal Veteran]

2. No it won't.

Peter Jackson did not film it and left it out of the film because he felt it would add two climaxes to the film which would not make for a good movie.

So, no scouring of the Shire.

[MoonAndSun]

4. I hear the Christopher Lee is so upset that his character (Saruman)

will not be in the last movie that he is not going to the premier or doing any interviews. Which is sad because his portrayal of Saruman is so good. But as a fan of the books, I do understand why Jackson can not film the complete book. I also trust Jackson to do the best he can, which so far has been excellent.

[gratuitous]

3. Nope, Jackson didn't film that part of the story at all

So it won't be on any extended version DVD or anywhere. At least according to this week's cover story in Newsweek, which I'll take at face value.

The Scouring of the Shire does provide a poignant resolution to the Saruman cycle in the trilogy, but by this point, I'm willing to trust Peter Jackson's choices in making his movie. He's done a pretty darned good job so far.

[PVnRT]

5. No, the point of the trilogy

is....there is no point. It's a story - Tolkein created Middle-Earth and its legends because he thought that Britain, unlike Scandanavia, or India, or China, didn't have great epic adventures passed on from ancient days - King Arthur is as close as it got.

While the Scouring of the Shire is a poignant close to the book, I never felt that it was absolutely essential to the story, more just a final goodbye from the land of hobbits before they, like everything else, faded away under the dominion of Man.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

7. Yeah, the Scouring of the Shire would kill the movie and confuse

the hell out of non-Tolkien junkies. This is not Tolkien's LOTR, but Peter Jackson's, and it's a damned fine one.

[lazarus]

6. Yeah, why not?

After all, a 3.5 hour film needs an extra 90 minute coda added to the end of it to keep the audience's attention. :evilgrin:

[Screaming Lord Byron]

8. I'm more bothered about Faramir leading out 200 knights to lose them all

that makes him look like a total idiot, and makes the Gondorians look like a bunch of wimps.

[PVnRT]

9. It also shows

how desperate he is for the love of his father (Denethor), who doesn't seem to show much in return (which is a lot like the book). I think that's more the point of the suicide mission from Faramir than anything else.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

11. I guess I'd better wait 'til I see the film, eh!

There's something that really bothers me about it though. You'd have to have thousands of Orcs to waste 200 Gondorian Knights (Tolkien Fanboy alert!)

[sexybomber]

12. That's the thing.

In the movie, I'll bet it will take thousands of orcs to waste 200 knights. You saw what they did with the battle of Helm's Deep. Ten thousand orcs. I'll bet they top it for this one.

[THUNDER HANDS]

15. try 200,000 orks

According to what I've heard.

[NashVegas]

10. AIYYYEEEEE!

They just love beating up Faramir, don't they? I watched the directors' commentary on TTT EE and had a sad laugh, listening to them justify/rationalize the changes that were made to the character. I was equally upset that they turned Theoden into such a freaking fatalist wuss.

But whatcha gonna do? It IS a magnificent film series.

And the Scouring of the Shire IS important for the reasons Nazgul pointed out. But corporate America likes us helpless on our own.

[Loonman]

13. Yeah, Jackson shouldn't have bothered

Worst. Trilogy. Ever.

/sarcasm

[Bridget Burke]

14. Jackson started to shoot the Scouring...

You can see the scenes in Galadriel's mirror. But he abandoned the whole sequence, thinking it would not "fit" into the movie.

There's enough story to fit into ROTK & I agree with him that the Scouring would be an anticlimax.

[geniph]

16. I'm still a bit torqued that my favorite scene

from the Two Towers - Aragorn, Gimli, and Legolas coming across Merry and Pippin smoking and feasting calmly in the ruins of Isengard - was left out. That is my favorite scene from the book, goddamn it!

Oh well. Can't please everyone, especially Tolkien completist geeks (of which I freely admit I am a member). All things considered, this trilogy is the best adaptation of LOTR I could ever have hoped for and it almost - almost - erases the horrible memory of that Bakshi abomination.

[NashVegas]

17. I Just Bought Tickets Online

at Fandango.

[Yavin4]

18. People, It;'s Called LOTR IV

Yep. The thing in Hollywood these days is to leave a little story left so that another entire movie could be made. Saureman's revenge on the shire will be the next movie in 2006 or so, or maybe it will be an animated short, or a video game, or a new DVD release.

Trust me. Hollywood knows how to crank money out of a fan base.

[salmonhorse]

19. Already have tickets for X-Mas day...

[NashVegas]

20. Ain't No Way I Can Wait That Long

I am SUCH a sucker; bought both theatrical versions AND EE DVDs of the first two.

Kinda disappointed with TTT EE, but the cast commentary's a hoot and a half. Bernard Hill swears like a sailor compared to everyone else. Lotsa bleeps.