Celebrities with dumb right-wing views - Time to Name And Shame

[Screaming Lord Byron]

Yes, I know the politics of celebrities shouldn't matter a damn, but you try telling that to my mum. So, in a shallow way, I'm compiling a list of famous people (and semi-famous has-beens) who are on record for their dodgy right-wing political beliefs. Bonus points for turncoats (are you listening, Roger Waters?) I left out Clint Eastwood, seeing as he cast Sean Penn in his latest flick (quite reasonable for a repub)

Here's a start

Kelsey Grammer
David Hyde Pierce
Phil Collins
Roger Waters
Ted Nugent
Dennis Miller (celebrity or party operative? hmmm)

[DS1]

1. Drew Carey

.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

6. Really? Did not know. Thanks.

[HawkerHurricane]

28. Drew Carey, USMC

Very pro military, and has fallen for the 'Democrats are anti military' propaganda.
He'd be a moderate hawk, if he hadn't fallen for the propaganda.

[CBHagman]

41. Also snotty about public television.

Drew Carey says we should just accept advertising on public TV and have done with it. Yeah, as if we didn't have advertising in our freaking schools, church bulletins, cable TV, network TV, and God knows where else.

Besides, Carey's no great shakes as performer anyway. :-)

[Terran]

180. He also said we should

all get over it (2000 election). That's what did it for me. I never watch his stupid sitcom after that.

[mlawson]

186. A true POS, he is!!! Just LOOKS like a repuke!! n/t

[mitchum]

51. Drew Carey wants to hold on to as much of his money as possible...

so that he can continue to afford a sex life. No talent jerk.

[Dork]

154. Indians

I heard him quip, I believe on Dennis Miller's show, something to the effect of "we won you lost get over it" in response to a question about the Indians mascot.

[blondeatlast]

245. Ouch! (But a good one nonetheless!)

[BelleCarolinaPeridot]

2. Phil Collins ?!?!?!

OMG ! I just got through listening to his song thinking " that was a damn good song ! " - I need to lay down now ...

[Screaming Lord Byron]

7. Here's confirmation from the Guardian

http://politics.guardian.co.uk/gallery/image/0,9353,-10804453210,00.html

Phil also said he'd leave the UK if Labour got elected. Don't think he did.

[LittleDannySlowhorse]

13. I'm totally ignorant

about the different parties in the UK. I gather that the Labour Party is left wing and the Torries (sp?) are right-wing, but I don't have a more nuanced understanding than that. Are there any special hot-button topics that distinguish the parties?

[Screaming Lord Byron]

16. The Tories correspond fairly well with the Republicans

and Labour with the mainstream Democrats. The hot button issues are pretty similar to the US.

[mitchum]

54. Sadly, Bryan Ferry is also a Tory pig (and a hypocrite)...

I don't think that the son of a coalminer would have been sent to art college under Conservative social policies. He's a great talent though...

[BurtWorm]

59. Ouch! I didn't know that.

That could explain the rapid decline in his talent and increase in his output of mush since the Thatcher years.

:puke:

[terrya]

62. Maybe I'm hallucinating, but didn't Bryan Ferry die a year or so ago?

Or am I thinking of Robert Palmer?

[BelleCarolinaPeridot]

76. Robert Palmer passed away from a heart attack a

couple of months ago . Brian Ferry is alive .

[Screaming Lord Byron]

64. Brian Ferry? Fuck!

[blondeatlast]

246. Ack--NNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

OhMyForkingGourd, no, it can't be.

[Zuni]

138. That is about right

The Tories and The GOP, as well as UK Labor and the Dems are coalition parties, with a lafrge cross section in each.
The difference is that the UK Parliament has tighter whips and the parties are more likely to vote en bloc. Only on issues like Iraq will you see a significant dissent.
I have noticed that Tony blair's New Labour is roughly equivalent to Clintonite, DLC Democrats. Like the Old New Dealers, the Old Labour is not as common in Parliament.

[BritishHuman]

175. *choke*

I hold no love for the Tories but they're WAAAAY more to the left than the Republicans.

Check out their last election manifesto.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

177. The tories were just as rightist as the Repubs from 1979-97

The current party may try and run towards the centre to beat Labour, but these people are still strongly right. Michael Howard would fit right into the Bush Cabinet.

[BelleCarolinaPeridot]

14. I am gonna try to ignore that article ...

:: continues to sing " just say the word ohhhhh ... su su sudio " ::

[sendero]

207. I never understood...

.. his popularity. Climbing up the back of Genesis, this 3rd rate drummer has done maybe 2 decent songs his entire life.

It is no surprise to me that he is a Tory f*cktard. :)

[caledesi]

38. Phil? Say it ain't so. I saw him in concert a few years ago

and it was one of the best concerts I have ever been to. Oh, this is sad.

[GOPisEvil]

3. Patricia Heaton

[Screaming Lord Byron]

11. Really? Patricia Heaton? Bloody Hell.

[ProfessorGAC]

23. I Second That

Four plastic surgeries, but an abiding belief that God belongs in our lives and that George Bush is a good man.

The anasthesia from the unnecessary surgeries must have damaged her brain.
The Professor

[terrya]

27. Isn't Patricia Heaton involved in the anti-abortion movement?

That was my understanding. Very passionately anti-abortion.

[Sean Reynolds]

102. Yup. She calls herself a pro-life feminist.

:wtf:

[bicentennial_baby]

119. "Refuse to Choose"

That's the slogan of the organization she heads... :puke:

[Rhiannon12866]

243. Yes, I have seen her on news shows

I don't know how a feminist can claim to be anti-choice, but she is. She also has four sons and has had plastic surgery. Go figure.:shrug:

[terrya]

4. Ben Stein is a fucking idiot.

There, I said it. I don't like using offensive language, but that's how I see him.

He's STILL defending Nixon.

[LittleDannySlowhorse]

15. Please don't use offensive words

like "Nixon". This is a family site.

[terrya]

18. LOL!

Sorry about using the "N" word. It just slipped out. :-)

[LittleDannySlowhorse]

33. Time to put a quarter in the swear jar!

nt

[HawkerHurricane]

29. He has to defend him

Got his start as a speech writer for him; a lot of Nixon's lies were written by Ben Stien.

[meegbear]

5. ROGER WATERS?!?!

What did he say/do? Always been fairly left.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

9. I always thought Roger was a bit of a commie, myself

However, here's an article about him considering voting Tory in 2001.

http://www.pink-floyd.org/artint/rw130500.htm

[meegbear]

17. True ...

but the text you are referring to says:

Unexpectedly, Tony Blair's assault on what Waters sees as the basic freedoms of the countryside may prompt him - a lifelong Labour supporter - to vote Conservative for the first time at the next general election.

He supports fox hunting - and if that's the worst, then the worms haven't gotten to him yet.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

20. Yeah. It did pain me to put Roger on the list.

I found no confirmation as to whether he did actually vote Tory in 2001. So there's hope for him, yet. Gilmour's politics are totally solid, though.

[absyntheNsugar]

98. Sounds to me more like he's a Libertarian-type....

which would equate to more of a Dean-type Democrat.

[tarkus]

140. I may never listen to The Final Cut the same way again. That hurt to read.

[sujan]

238. nope Roger Waters is not right wing

[MotR]

25. If anyone is going to do the FReeper thing...

and throw away all your Pink Floyd albums, please send then to me instead.

[terrya]

8. David Hyde Pierce is right wing????

Oh, God. A gay right winger. Tell me isn't so.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

12. See what you think from this GOPUSA article.

Oh no! I'm quoting a right-wing source!

http://www.gopusa.com/caroldevinemolin/2001/cdm_082701.shtml

[hlthe2b]

49. Just because he attended Maureen R's memorial?

Mike Farrell was there as well, and he is about as left wing as they come....

I think this is a stretch.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

50. I've read about Hyde-Pierce's views elsewhere

Couldn't find links though.

[nuxvomica]

228. If you can find it, I'd like to know

Pierce is very careful about not revealing too much of his personal life or political views. If you read anything about his politics, I'd be mighty surprised.

[Drifter]

19. DHP is gay ?

I was not aware of this. I guess I am a bit disappointed that he is RW, especially if he his gay.

Are you sure he is gay ? is he out or is this your Gaydar going off.

Cheers
Drifter

[terrya]

21. He's never publically come out.

But it's an open secret in Hollywood.

Plus, he's never mentioned...ever...a girlfriend or fiancee. Never been married.

And my gaydar...and a lot of others...are pretty reliable on this.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

22. Oh, yeah. n/t

[joeybee12]

92. Typical gay actor--will NEVER come out

Feels it will ruin his career, although whether it will or not is a matter of debate.

But the fear is there nonetheless.

Over-rated ham. Repuke twat.

[terrya]

101. Just like Sean Hayes.

But I don't think Hayes is a Repug.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

107. Oh yeah, he's not gay. (sarcasm)

How would his career be hurt by coming out? What am I missing?

[terrya]

108. Voiceover work.

He's the voice of the fish in "The Cat in the Hat".

And, he was in that "Martin and Lewis" movie on CBS a while back (playing Jerry Lewis)

And, of course, there's "Will and Grace".

I think Sean should realize that everyone pretty much knows he's gay.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

111. and none of us give a shit that he is.

I don't know why he doesn't realise that. It wouldn't make a bit of difference to his career. People that like him obviously haven't got much of a problem with gay folk, because he's fairly obvious, so they won't care.

[joeybee12]

160. When he won his emmy, he thanked David on stage

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Ah, they deserve each other.

By the way, Will and Grace has been unwatchable this season.

[YellowRubberDuckie]

201. Sean Hayes really ISN'T gay...

He's just really good at acting like it.
Duckie

[cosmicdot]

144. LOL - playing Niles is so "butch"

[mlawson]

183. That is why I quit watching that show.

I'm sorry, but watching Niles every week going apeshit over ANY woman just got on my nerves. What were the producers of the show thinking???

[caledesi]

39. Almost everyone on Frazier is gay except for Kelsey...

I even think the dog is.

[mitchum]

58. He is gay, but he doesn't want to be typecast...

I guess he's afraid that he will miss out on all of those tough cop and cowboy roles.

[YellowRubberDuckie]

200. Wait...he's not gay, is he?

I just thought he was a girly hetero...maybe I'm naive...but I didn't know...
Duckie

[LittleDannySlowhorse]

10. No kidding

I knew about all the other people you mentioned, but I didn't know about Phil Collins or Roger Waters, although I have always maintained that Phil Collins should be brought up on crimes against humanity charges for writing "Sussudio". What have those guys done/said?

Here's my list, although most of them are obvious:

Tom Selleck
Charlton Heston
Gene Simmons
Loretta Lynn
Bruce Willis

[TNDemo]

26. I've heard Tom Selleck is gay.

Or "used to be." I know a guy who swears he attended gay parties in Colorado with him years ago. Always wondered if is he has this right wing thing going on for his image.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

31. Never heard that one. Maybe my gaydar is broke. Hang on.

Taps head. Aah, that's better.

[Philostopher]

35. He used to do TV ads for

John Birch Review, so I don't know if it's 'just for image' or not. I think doing ads for them probably means he's a winger. There are gay conservatives, too, though what possesses them will ever remain a mystery to me.

The one that really disappointed me was James Woods. He used to keep his mouth shut, and I knew he was more right than his peers, but that was okay with me as long as he didn't shove it in my face. Then he started spouting off crap about Iraq, and how we should support the Dim Son, and he lost me.

[Athletic Grrl]

209. James Woods?

Dear Lord.

[CanuckAmok]

233. Oh, yeah, and...

I read an interview with him, post 9/11, in which he says he is sure he saw some of the hijackers on a previous flight, scoping it out. He even called the FBI to report "suspicious Arab-types" on his flight, and that's a matter of public record. He went on to say, basically, that if the FBI hadn't had their hands tied by some of the laws passed under Clinton, they would have had the power to arrest the hijackers after Woods' report.

:shrug:

[blondeatlast]

247. He's not the least bit shy about it either.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

24. Anyone else hear about John Lennon voting Tory in 1964?

to protect his money. My dad's convinced, and horrified.
I don't know what to make of that. Goes against everything I know about the man.

[trogdor]

63. Well, he was in the 95% bracket, after all.

You know, like the song - "one for you, nineteen for me." I think Paul McCartney was the only one who never became a tax exile.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

66. McCartney has a solid left-wing track-record.

[Zuni]

146. In those days, British taxes were extremely confiscatory

Many rich brits lived abroad because they had no money for dope once the record companies and taxes got through with them

[regnaD kciN]

165. That song...

You know, like the song - "one for you, nineteen for me."

...was written by George Harrison, not John.

One of the ironies of the Beatles was that George, before becoming Mr. Non-Materialist Eastern Sage, was recognized as the biggest money-grubber in the band.

[elperromagico]

258. There was something in the Anthology doc,

where Lennon said "I'm not gonna vote for Ted," Ted being Ted Heath, the Conservative leader in Parliament. Heath had made some comment about how he couldn't understand what the Beatles said.

I wasn't aware Lennon ever voted, either in the UK (apathy) or in the US (non-citizenship). Could be wrong, of course; I never paid much attention to the Fab Four's voting habits.

[onebigbadwulf]

30. Actually if a celeb is conservative they're smart

seeing as how they're pulling in millions, they don't want it taxed.

[felonious thunk]

32. Um, Arnold Schwarzenegger

Mel Gibson
Bill O'Reilly (he's not a journalist or reporter. He's a TV celeb)

[Screaming Lord Byron]

34. Gibson's odd. He has some pretty messed-up religious views

i assume he's a repub then too? No surprise there.

[Zuni]

143. He seems like a decent guy

He is a christian. I have never heard anything about his politics.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

147. He's a member of a very conservative Catholic group, apparently.

Anyone else have more details?

[Lizz612]

195. NO links but

I know he's started a church that is basicly a Pre-Vatican II church. The Vatican does not hold his church to be part of the Catholic Church. I forget what the movement is called. Even my freinds from a VERY conservative Catholic church think that stuff is out there.

[politicat]

225. Gibson is part of the Charismatic Catholic movement. More.

I went to school at a small, very conservative Catholic school for my first year of college at a place called Thomas Aquinas college. (Being 16 and not knowing better....) It's a very Petrist philosophy, with Augustine and Aquinas mixed in. Mysogynist doesn't even start to explain it.

Gibson is a major supporter. I worked in the endowments office as work study; his name was on several major checks that I filed photocopies of. (Being 16, I didn't realize what I should be doing, which was making copies of those checks and getting them to reporters.) The beliefs are: A rollback of Vatican II, the return to the mass in Latin, a rollback of women's rights (under the Petrist doctrine that the man is the head of the house as Christ is the head of the church), the abolition of birth control and abortion, a return to the promotion of vocations (I know several people who became priests and nuns out of that school... and most people don't even know one), suppression and rejection of homosexuality, defending the clergy at any costs (they do not tend to believe that clergy are capable of committing sexual abuse.) and about a million other 19th century catholic beliefs.

It's a scary movement. It's very tacitly anti-semitic (because well, the jews did kill christ and so deserve whatever they get), racist (children of Ham), anti-communist, anti-arts and diversity.... They don't even like the Masons, considering them evil. Conspiracy theories abound within the community.

I'm glad I got out with my mind not corrupted too badly. It did give me a good grounding for knowing what the hell the right wing of the RC church is up to, and it's scary as hell. I'm not surprised these days when I hear the Vatican is cozy with Islamic Fundamentalism. Same value structure.

Politicat (who is no longer Catholic.)

[YellowRubberDuckie]

202. Mel Gibson's dad is messed up...

It's no wonder Mel is a little questionable.
Duckie

[caledesi]

36. Don't forget the very talented "actor" Bo Derek.

And dumb as a box of rocks.

[terrya]

45. I remember Bo saying a while back that she was blacklisted in Hollywood

Because of being a conservative. She was convinced that "liberal" Hollywood was refusing her work.

I thought she was refused work because of a lack of talent. :-)

[trogdor]

67. So why didn't the "Left Behind" people grab her?

Kirk Cameron got a lead role, why not the Hollywood conservative poster broad?

Never knew they made a Left Behind movie? That's because it went direct to DVD.

[terrya]

74. I've studiously avoided that movie.

A friend of mine saw "Left Behind" and said it's hilariously amateurish and stupid.

Yeah...Bo should have been in that one.

[Dork]

158. Left Behind type movies

Gary Busey, Judd Nelson and Mister T all feature in movies by the people that did Left Behind. Does that count as right wing or is that plain insane?

[jukes]

251. Gary Busey

is a fundie xian, saw him on some holyroller tv thing. xians troll the rehab centers for people willing to switch their addictions from substance to insubstantial; the whole "higher power" thing. Read an article that the "faith-based" funding is being pulled from education programs in prison systems and fundism is replacing it.

Gary Oldman is a hardline conservative, and I know he re-habbed, but don't know what his politics were before. Damn shame, he's an amazing actor.;(

[corarose]

196. Talented in what?

:kick:

[caledesi]

37. Bruce Willis. nt

[hlthe2b]

47. Yes, Bruce Willis...

He came back from "entertaining troops" with an unbelievable tyrade against "liberals who are not "supporting the troops."

I believe Demi Moore is more liberal-- too bad it did not rub off.

[Zero Gravitas]

78. Well Al Franken

"entertains the troops" and I don't think he's a wing-nut!

[hlthe2b]

89. DId you READ my post?

It is NOT that he went over to entertain the troops... it is what he said when he got back about us "horrible liberals' who protest this war, are unpatriotic in criticizing BUsh, etc., etc.


Geez...

[Scott Lee]

123. Willis is another pretend warrior (like draft dodging John Wayne)

You know the type. All gung ho and patriotic but not in a hurry to actually pick up a rifle and get jiggy with it.

Hmmm....kinda sounds like a few GOP chickenhawks I know....

[terrya]

125. And let's not forget Ronnie "I stayed in Hollywood" Reagan

I don't know if appearing in films during World War II is quite the same thing as being in combat.

[absyntheNsugar]

139. Yep

He asked if he could go over and fight himself. Funny.

BTW...I'm sure everyone here knows John Wayne never served, and had a 4F classification.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

40. There's some nonsense site called www.celiberal.com that lists RW folks

Here's some they call right wing.
98 Degrees (wtf?)
Three Doors Down
Adam Sandler (what?)
Amy Grant (understandable)
Andrew Lloyd Webber (yup)
Andy Garcia (AAARGGHH!)

I'll post more when I get over Garcia.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

43. more....

BB King (say it aint so!)
Billy Bob Thornton
Britney Spears
Brittany Murphy (huh?)
Candace Bushnell (really?)
Creed (ha!)
David Spade
Delta Burke
Dennis Hopper (for sure?)

[Screaming Lord Byron]

44. a few more

Fleetwood Mac
Gary Oldman
Gloria Estefan
James Earl Jones
Jerry Seinfeld
John Malkovich
Jon Voight
Kid Rock
Lyle Lovett
Marilyn Manson
Matt LeBlanc
Meat Loaf
Michael J. Fox
Nickelback

[Screaming Lord Byron]

46. Sean Astin and Wayne Gretsky too.

They list McCartney, but I know that's bullshit.

[felonious thunk]

48. Looks to me

like anyone who has ever held a conservative view on any topic is listed here as a "Conservative". I think a lot of these are bullshit.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

52. Yeah, they did list McCartney and Mick Hucknall, and I know for a fact

that they're not right-wing. The people I cut and pasted, I'm more sure of their views. Nickleback and Gretsky are definitely RW, as is Michael J Fox.

[Melsky]

178. I read on DU

That Michael J. Fox contributed to one of the dem's campaigns. I think it might have been Kerry, anyone remember?

[Screaming Lord Byron]

179. Yeah, MJF is officially let off the hook. He appears to have become

more political in his old age, due to his campaign for Stem-Cell Research.

[blondeatlast]

248. He has definitely swung left-ward, if he really ever was RW

(I think he may have been moderate or neutral, I doubt he was ever really RW). As a strong SC research advocate myself, he is the best celebrity advocate there is, with the possible exception of Christopher Reeve.

Do keep in mind though that Orrin Hatch and Gordon Smith are both VERY strong advocates for SC research funding (including embryonic).
Please don't politicize the issue any more than it already is--it has nothing to do with abortion unless you are dumb as a rock or or a completely out-there zealot.

[hlthe2b]

53. Fleetwood Mac?

Surely not all of them.. I can't imagine Stevie Nicks being conservative! Given the drug history may be some are libertarian?

[Screaming Lord Byron]

55. Yeah. I don't know where they're coming from there. Will Investigate.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

71. The only dirt they have on the Mac is that

They donated 200 tickets for a show to folks in the services.
I think they can come off the list.

[hlthe2b]

87. Yes, I would think so.... Support troops automatically = Repug?

NO WAY!!!!!!!!!

They conveniently ignore the libs who go over and entertain, or like CHer, have visited the mangled wounded in military hospitals statewide....

[YellowRubberDuckie]

204. Remember after Oceans 11 came out...

the one with George Clooney and Brad Pitt they all travelled over to Afghanistan and visited with the troops. Julia Roberts said it was one of the funnest trips ever. George Clooney isn't a repug...and I seriously doubt Julia Roberts is...Were they on the list?
Duckie

[Zuni]

142. That is absurd

There is nothing conservative or liberal to donating tickets to servicemen. If they donated them to the Christian coalition, that might be a little different.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

145. Supporting Troops = Right Wing Apologist. Did you NOT get the memo?

Yeah. The people behind this list are a total joke.

[Zuni]

166. It just arrived on my desk

It reminded me that us liberals are heartless bastards. Sorry about the confusion.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

167. It's actually quite funny that they're claiming Fleetwood Mac purely

because they donated tickets to the military. Really smacks of desperation.

[Sufi Marmot]

192. Some people are on that list only because...

...they played at Bush's inauguration, or at other functions Bush has attended. Lyle Lovett and ZZ Top, for example.

Word to the site's creators: just because someone performs for Bush doesn't necessarliy make them a conservative, so don't flatter yourselves...

-SM

[kmla]

103. Not Fleetwood Mac.

They played @ Bill's '92 inaugeration, fer cryin' out loud! Those idiots are really reachin' fer that one...

[johnnie]

198. Drugs?

Look at Rush's drug history...

[BurtWorm]

94. I agree with you. A lot of these are bullshit.

I think I've heard of this list before, or one like it. They base their ratings on one or two remarks the list maker likes. Every other statement expressing more leftist views is discarded. Typical winger dishonesty.

PS: The giveaway is Jerry Seinfeld, who is a Democrat, I believe, and basically liberal, but who may have said something vaguely supportive of Israel or the war on terror once upon a time.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

96. They reckon Seinfeld donated to Bush. Can anyone confirm?

God I hope that's untrue.

[fujiyama]

220. Seinfeld's a Kerry supporter...

Check out www.opensecrets.org

and you can search for names.

[VOX]

242. Yes. *Deep* bullshit.

Seinfeld is all Democrat.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

261. I am very glad to hear that.

[Zuni]

131. That is what it looks like to me

A lot of these cats are not John Birchers

[philosophie_en_rose]

199. I'm not sure about Sean Astin

I think he has done some things for the military, but he was fairly anti-war on the Two Towers commentary.

[Bryan]

260. I'm not sure about Astin either

In a couple of talk-show appearances, he's stated that, despite his personal partisan leanings, he "supports the President", but I saw his appearance on Late Night with Conan O'Brien about a year ago where he was kvelling about getting to meet Bill at a Dem event. For whatever reason, he seems to still be full of immediately-post-9/11 spirit.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

262. On the Two Towers doc, he sounds pretty intellectual, but I didn't get

the repub vibe from him. Like I say, this is a right-wing list from a pretty dumb site.

[BelleCarolinaPeridot]

57. Take Michael J. Fox out there

I remember reading an interview he did with the weekly German Newsmagazine " Der Spiegel " in which he utterly cursed the Bush Administration .

[Screaming Lord Byron]

65. That's good, he does have a fairly Repub track record though.

I hope he's changed his spots.

[FDRrocks]

112. Isn't MJF a proponent of stem cell research?

If I had a disease that medicine could cure and the rethugs were blocking those techniques I do not see how I could be a RW'r.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

115. Yeah, I'll pull Michael J Fox out of the penalty box.

He may well have had a change of heart.

[Catshrink]

224. He did play Alex Keaton who was very repug....

[Zero Gravitas]

82. Malkovich, Malkovich, Malkovich

I thought Malkovich lived in France? Too bad he's very talented. Malkovich Malkovich Malkovich Malkovich

[Screaming Lord Byron]

83. He never struck me as a repub, but the more I read about him...

the wackier his views get.

[BurtWorm]

95. I think they're confusing him with Alex P. Keaton

:eyes:

[Screaming Lord Byron]

97. Hope so.

[Scott Lee]

124. I think his shame is that he's an Israeli atrocity apologist

outside of that, I haven't heard of anything that solidly puts him in the rightwing Hollywood category.

[Zuni]

135. what abou Arab atrocity apologists?

there are plenty of them in the left wing communities---why hold malkovich to a higher standard than Chomsky or Edward Said?

[Scott Lee]

191. What "atrocities" did Chomsky or Said "apologize" for?

And by the way FUCK MALKOVICH.

[Zuni]

130. Leave BB King and Malkovich out of this!

I like them, especially the King.

[Zuni]

134. Marilyn Manson?

That guy does not exactly strike me as a conservative. I couldn't see him paling around with Pat Robertson, for example.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

136. They link to an article where MM said he'd vote for Bush.

As to verification, this is a nonsense Right-wing site, so I'm not backing them up.

[absyntheNsugar]

155. MM is not really a Republican...

What he said was that he wanted Bush to win because with a Right Wing president, he would have more shock appeal. Basically apathy + greed (so perhaps he really is a Repub...)

[ronnykmarshall]

172. Fleetwood Mac??

No way. John McVie is republican (and my guess now an American citizen), but Stevie Nicks has been at many Demo functions.

[AntiCoup2K4]

187. Marilyn Manson, a right winger????

I thought pissing off conservatives was his entire reason for existence (God knows it's not being a musician, because he ain't)

[DBoon]

210. Then it is appropriate that he wants them elected

Republican government = more outrage against his antics = better ticket sales

Doesn't mean he truly supports repub policies, just a cynical admission that they make his life easier as a performer.

BTW, I thought he came across very well in the Columbine movie.

[YellowRubberDuckie]

203. Marilyn Manson is conservative?

:wtf:
DUckie

[LibertyorDeath]

230. Nickelback yeah well they're from Alberta so what more is

there to say!

They now claim to be from Vancouver

Asswipes

[BurtWorm]

126. Ozzy Osbourne is not a rightie!

He's on the list because he showed up at the WH Correspondence Dinner with Greta van Sustern a couple of years ago. :eyes: Sharon Osbourne admitted in a Washington Post piece about that dinner that they didn't know one Senator from a Congressman. It wasn't their milieu, she said. The lefties could claim Ozzie, from the same article, on the basis that Dennis Kucinich got an autograph from him! (I could swear I also heard Ozzie talking recently about how fucked up the Americans are when it comes to war and peace.)

[Screaming Lord Byron]

129. Yeah, a big chunk of their list is totally dubious, so I left Ozzy out.

He's a Monster Raving Loony Party supporter, anyhow!

[BurtWorm]

132. That I believe!

[LibertyorDeath]

232. I will personally bite the head off of anyone claiming Ozzy is right wing

[Astarho]

182. BB King?

Yeah, I guess witnessing a lynching as a child would make one turn Repub :eyes:

[sendero]

208. Dennis Hopper?

Someone has got to be kidding.

[VOX]

241. Dennis Hopper? Dennis Hopper is RW? That can't be!

He is one of the most anti-establishment guys to ever come down the pike!

[Philostopher]

56. I believe at least some members of 98 Degrees are from Cincinnati.

Went to SCPA (officially 'School for Creative and Performing Arts' but usually called 'School Children Playing Around' by many people I've known). Probably true enough.

The chick who sings for Evanescence (Amy whatsername, I care too little to go look it up) blathered some BS about how much she likes the Gropinator in a little 'quick pick' interview in one of the British music rags we read around here, too. Not that it's surprising -- Evanescence got its start as a Christian band, then bailed out on the Christian music scene when it started getting money from the secular community. Still, that she'd have no knowledge of politics but 'think Arnold is kewl!' would be no shocker.

[BurtWorm]

61. Andy Garcia and Gloria Estefan are very anti-Castro

and pro-Elian.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

68. That explains a lot. Cheers.

[Kamika]

69. Does that mean they are conservative though?

Ok I know Gloria is a rightwinger, but I mean I'm anti Castro aswell just that I dont believe we'll get rid of him sooner by punishing the Cuban people

[Screaming Lord Byron]

70. Garcia is a Republican Party Member, unfortunately.

[Zuni]

137. makes sense

Most Cuban emigres are very hostile to Castro. My Russian family was more hostile than reagan toward the USSR, but some of them are true blue liberals. Coming from a dictatorship changes equations on issues.

[absyntheNsugar]

99. Re: Garcia

I've heard he's a Dem, but is tied in deep with the CANF (for those of you not in the know, they are why we still have an embargo agasinst Cuba today.)

He's always lobbied hard to preserve the embargo, however he also campaigned for Gore in 2000.

[Zuni]

133. He is a Cuban

there are a lot of normal decent Cubans that are fanatically anti-Castro. many of them are pretty liberal on most issues.

[mvd]

194. I don't trust that site

For some celebs., there's no reason given at all. That's because they'd be embarrassed to print them. I know for a fact that Brittany Murphy made some minor comment in support of the troops while celebs were staging an anti-war event. But I support the troops, too - more than many Repukes in fact.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

263. It's a nonsense right-wing site, thanks to all for helping debunk it.

[LSatyl]

42. Mel "I'm right about Jebus" Gibson (nt)

[ploppy]

197. Mel IS Jesus

Gibson.

[FloridaJudy]

219. Snort!

According to the latest Newsweek:

Chances of being hit by lightning: 1/250,000 per year

Number of times the cast of "Mel Gibson's The Passion of Christ" has been hit by lightning during the five months of filming: 3.

The guy playing Jesus has been hit once.

The co-director was hit twice.

Either these guys were really, really stupid and stood out in a raging thunderstorm holding metal staffs, or God has spoken.

And She doesn't approve.

O8)

[blondeatlast]

249. Good on God! I believe she has spoken, indeed.

And I'm a proud, but usually quiet, Christian.

ROFLMAO! Got as link?

[mitchum]

60. The incredibly untalented Victoria Jackson...

the lamest SNL performer ever. Complains that she can't get work because she is a conservative Christian. Can't have anything to do wth her sucking...

[Kamika]

73. I think she's fun

Wasn't she in Twin peaks? she didnt write she was in it in her own filmography

[Screaming Lord Byron]

75. Are you confusing her with Julee Cruise?

They do look vaguely similar, I guess.

[Kamika]

77. no I found her though

it wasn't her it was Kimmy Robertson




They really look AND behave similar

[Screaming Lord Byron]

79. OK. Can't remember.

[CBHagman]

80. You're confusing Kimmy Robertson with Victoria Jackson.

The former was the receptionist on "Twin Peaks," and the latter was on SNL.

[Kamika]

85. man they have an uncanny resemblence

I was convinced it was Victoria

[trogdor]

157. VJ's twin peaks were sagging already when she left SNL

You can't trade on a 'baby face' and stay in the biz forever.

[blondeatlast]

250. Or that wretched voice . . .

What a dumbass.

[henslee]

72. Norm Mcdonald

[Kamika]

86. Nooo

Not my favorite satiricist

[henslee]

162. I heard him on H. Stern... he was pretty fascist, insenstivie.

[annagull]

212. He went on The View and called Bill Clinton a murderer

he said something like, "Bill Clinton is an alright President if you like murderers", alluding to the suicide of Vince Foster. Needless to say, I thought Star Jones was going to bitchslap him. Weird dude.

[vi5]

81. Calling some of these "right wing celebrities"...

Is just as stupid as calling some of the "left wing celebrities".

Recognizing that it is possible for people to hold a wide range of beliefs on a variety of subjects is not a bad thing.

Michael J. Fox is a tireless advocate for stem cell research and has gone on record and before congress decrying the bush admin position on the issue.

That's not exactly right wing. Maybe he holds a conservative view on other issues, but this doesn't make him or any number of others "right wing".

Can't we leave this kind of petty BS to the repubs?

[Screaming Lord Byron]

84. Unfortunately, people listen to what celebrities say, so why not out them?

I don't see what's so bad about it. This is the Lounge after all, not a witch-hunt.

[vi5]

88. Yeah, it's all in good fun but.....

If we complain when people judge or blacklist someone for holding what may be just one or two liberal views, how are we any better for doing the same thing.

I think even here on DU if you took a poll on a wide variety of issues most of us would come out across the spectrum and not strictly right or left wing altogether. Celebs shouldn't be held to a different standard.

I mean if you are only going to judge based on one or two issues then Arnold Schwarzenegger is a huge liberal. We know that's not true so....but still using these standards would apply there.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

90. Fair enough. One thing though - Jerry Seinfeld gave money to Bush

and Seinfeld is still one of my favourite shows, so I personally (and I think just about anyone else on this board) am not going to blacklist people because I don't share the same beliefs. Same with Malkovich. Complete idiot, politically, but a very good actor.

[Philostopher]

100. If they're really talented, it doesn't necessarily keep me away.

I'd still watch a James Woods movie, but I'd still be disappointed that he feels compelled to shore up Bu$h every time he gets any 'face time' on any interview show, too. It doesn't necessarily make me like actors and musicians more because they espouse liberal beliefs -- although if they sincerely believe them, I'm happy for them. I think it's probably easier to get by in the entertainment world, since apparently most entertainers are apolitical or lean left.

There are plenty of hacks who have voiced opinions on both ends of the political spectrum. If they're hacks, I can comfortably shout a resounding 'who gives a shit?' regardless of whether they're liberal or conservative. If they're talented, well -- I'll still go see John Malkovich movies, even though I happen to disagree with some of what he says politically.

Entertainers' political opinions don't affect what I will or won't buy, purely on their own. I think that's probably the dominating opinion of most of us here at DU, and even of those who've contributed to this thread -- but it is interesting to us. If politics -- and even the politics of entertainers -- wasn't interesting to us, why would we be participating in a baldly partisan site in the first place? It's relevant because the entertainers feel compelled for some reason to make it relevant.

I don't like country music, but I respect the Dixie Chicks' right to say whatever they want. I happen to agree with them, but I'm not all that enamored of their music, so I didn't go out and buy a Dixie Chicks CD just because they're slamming Bu$h, either.

Entertainers have a right to express a political opinion. We have a right to share that, if it matters to us. If it limits their audience, that's their choice -- in some cases, it does. I never liked Drew Carey anyway, for instance, or Dennis Miller. In fact, I never thought much of most of the entertainers who've been 'outed' as conservatives in this thread. Was it because they're conservatives? Well, no. It's because I never liked them in the first place.

[Kamika]

91. We're just doing it for fun

It's not like we are like the rightwingers and seriously saying we're gonna make a list and boycott them etc..

[Kamika]

93. Would it be wrong to say every american wrestler in existance?

Wrestler as in WWE etc

just a guess though :)

[vi5]

104. Well, I am embarrased that I know this about wrestling..

But a year or two ago there were these two male pro-wrestlers whose shtick was that they were getting married to each other. I didn't watch it but I saw them on interviews and they discussed how the reaction from the gay community had been positive and how they were happy about that and glad it didn't offend anyone.

So while that may not make them liberals it definitely does not make them rabid wingers.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

109. Wasn't that script written by Bob from Sugar / Husker Du?

One of the few indie rockstars to turn wrestling script-writers.

[vi5]

116. It may have been. That's right he did do that....

His career has taken some very strange turns over the past 2-3 years.

Husker Du is still the greatest band ever though.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

120. No argument there. The gay marriage suits Bob's sense of humour.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

121. For Brit DUers - here's some celebrity tories.

Jim Davidson
Paul Daniels
Peter Stringfellow
Anthony Worrall-Thompson
Frank Bruno
Mike Read
Lord Andrew Lloyd Webber
Bill Roache
Roger Moore
Bob Monkhouse
Tim Rice

[cosmicdot]

149. Paul "Parklife" Daniels?

[Screaming Lord Byron]

151. God no! You're thinking of Phil 'Quadrophenia' Daniels

Paul Daniels is a bad magician, Phil's a socialist.

[roguevalley]

222. I remember that. Then they renounced it and pissed everyone off.

the donkeys.

[BiggJawn]

105. Rosie.

It was disgusting the way she almost switched teams again, swooning over Dumbya after 11 Sept..."Oh! SAVE us, Mister President! I LOVE the President!"

[MiddleRiverRefugee]

106. Charlie effing Daniels and Lorrie effing Morgan

Is not the same guy who did "Uneasy Rider" any more.

Lorrie Morgan (George Morgan's daughter) is also known in bluegrass circles as The Woman Who Killed Keith Whitley....

[terrya]

110. And Toby effing Keith eom

[absyntheNsugar]

113. No...Daniels is a member of the Klan

think that's a different party altogether...LOL

[absyntheNsugar]

114. Gene Simmons of KISS

came out a while ago bashing anyone who criticized Bushie...

[Screaming Lord Byron]

117. No surprise there.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

118. No surprise there.

[Scott Lee]

127. He was abusive as hell to Terri Gross, right on her program

And it was hilarious because Terri Gross is a shit-fuck war apologist like Simmons. A wonderful radio example of eating-their-own. Must listen radio if you get a transcript.

[gardenista]

244. Terri Gross is *not* a war apologist!

Where in the world did you get that idea?

[blondeatlast]

252. I was wondering the same thing.

We must be listening to a different Terry Gross. Simmons couldn't take her; neither could Bill O'Reilly.

SNORT!

The one I listen to is on NPR, yours is on?

[Scott Lee]

128. so THAT'S why the Devil went down to Jo'jya!

Now the song makes sense.

[Character Assassin]

193. Oh just fucking stop. That man was a juice hound before he met her....

And never met a bottle he didn't like.

[absyntheNsugar]

122. Keep in mind for every Born Again Crhistian Celeb...

There will always be naked pictures of them somewhere. I call that "Absynthe's Law." Most celeb-types don't turn to wacko religions without first completely hitting a career rock bottom.

This may be off topic, but kinda related...

[LibertyorDeath]

231. absyntheNsugar....... Sweet

[blondeatlast]

253. A prime example: Laura Schlessinger

Pardon me, I have to rinse my mouth now . . .

[geniph]

141. Johnny Ramone

the two best Ramones have died, but mean-ass wingnut Johnny just keeps on flapping his ugly mouth, parroting rightwing talking points.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

148. Fuck. What a real jerk. Did he learn nothing?

[Scott Lee]

190. Whaddaya expect. Old people get scared, and then conservative.

A pattern of life, I'm afraid.

[DBoon]

211. DeDe Ramone?

Wasn't he very seriously pro-Reagan from the get go?

[Athletic Grrl]

216. Dboon,

Dee Dee aside, if they figure out a way to get Jello Biafra on that list, I will move to France. You with me? :hippie:

[blondeatlast]

254. Give 'em time, they will.

That is one out there list.

[Athletic Grrl]

214. Johnny Ramone...

has had some real problems with beating women and lewd, drunken behavior. Always me least favorite Ramone. He just bugged me for some reason.

RIP Joey and Dee Dee, who I'm sure never voted for Ronnie Raygun.

[cosmicdot]

150. what about Pat Sajac

the game host spinning a different wheel these days

Shirley Temple Black
wasn't there a Love Boat dude who got elected to office
the Rock appeared at the 2000 GOP convention - 1st time voter for GWB*

[mlawson]

184. Oh, yeah! He had his own talk show for a few days

during the early years of the Clinton Administration. He used to bash the Big Dog every chance he got.

[luckyluke]

152. Phil Collins, Roger Waters are *not* conservative... utter rubbish...

...that is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. Just listen to the lyrics of "Another Day in Paradise" or the entire "Wall" album.

As a matter of fact, "Pink Floyd: The Wall" the movie is my all-time favorite liberal movie. It's as liberal as it gets.

-ll

[Screaming Lord Byron]

153. Sorry, but Phil Collins is a well-known long-time Tory in the UK.

I guess he's a hypocrite, then.

If Waters really voted Tory in 2001, then he's gone beyond the pale.

[SOteric]

163. You seem to be under the impression that UK Tories are

an exact translation for the U.S. Republican.

This is not the case.

Overall, the politics of UK are considerably to the left of the US. You'll have to remember that they never endured McCarthyism, or a fear of socialism and communist ideologies. In fact to some modest extent, they've embrace them.

I'm not suggesting that there aren't mouth-frothing, screed spewing conservatives in the UK. But the ones there are do not echo exactly the U.S., even in issues. It would not be surprising to me to find the a Tory political figure who's beliefs and policies were more left-leaning than most of our current Democratic candidates for the presidency.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

164. As someone who grew up in the UK under Thatcher

I can confirm that the Tories are every bit as nasty as most Republicans.

[Zuni]

169. I tend to agree

I try to watch PM's Questions on C-Span. The Tories, although the issues are different, could be mistaken for Republicans very easily without their accents.
The biggest difference is the the Tory Party is more aristocratic and snobbish while the GOP tends to be more fundamentalist christian.

[SOteric]

171. So what part of "I'm not suggesting that there aren't mouth-frothing...

...screed spewing conservatives in the UK. But the ones there are do not echo exactly the U.S., even in issues," did you fail to read and comprehend as well?

[Screaming Lord Byron]

173. Phil Collins is personally pretty solidly Tory, has been for at least 20

years, which means he was quite the fan of Thatcher. If that helps, that corresponds to a solid Republican

[Zuni]

168. Not true at all

British Politics are not the same as American ones, different issues and histories and all, but British RWers can be every bit as intolerant and dogmatic as Tom DeLay or Donald Rumsfeld.

[SOteric]

170. So what part of "I'm not suggesting that there aren't mouth-frothing...

...screed spewing conservatives in the UK. But the ones there are do not echo exactly the U.S., even in issues," did you fail to read and comprehend?

[absyntheNsugar]

176. Yes...I've heard the

Tories are, as a party, much more like the Republicans of the 1920's...there are rabid wingnuts, but there are quite a few more Lincon Chafees and Mark Hatfields in the Tory party.

[SOteric]

181. He's got an actual British person saying as much in post 175

With links in corroboration and he still doesn't believe it.

I've never been very enthused by such threads anyway. It seems a little like a witch hunt. Right wingers claim adherents based on little evidence and then we start boycotts and smear campaigns because we believe them.

I know there are some outspoken Republicans. But for some of these less outspoken people I have to remain dubious. How an individual votes in the privacy of the voting booth is really up to them and their conscience. I'm not in favour of blacklisting people for their sincere belief, however strongly I may disagree with it.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

189. Actually, I grew up in the UK, and the Tories, particularly the Thatcher

Tories are just as bad as the Republicans. Still, thanks for your condescension. Collins is Tory of record, the Tories are deeply Right-Wing. I campaigned against the Tories in four elections, and they are hateful.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

156. Here's some evidence.

from bubblegun.com

'From a career high in the mid-to-late eighties, which included acting stints in the movie Buster, Collins has seen his fortunes slide. From the tabloid horror which saw his nice guy façade tarnished by an angry, four-letter-strewn fax to his ex-wife, and vocal support of the Conservative Party, Collins has ceased to be, well, liked. At least, not in his native Britain.'

From the Guardian

'Tory supporter Phil Collins set up a foundation aimed at helping young children to realise their dreams in starting careers in arts or sports'

http://politics.guardian.co.uk/gallery/image/0,9353,-10804453210,00.html

On threatening to leave the UK if Labour won.

'After all, Phil Collins, who was done over by Morris, is the same Phil Collins who sang Another Day in Paradise, then threatened to leave the country if the Conservatives lost the general election. And as for Tory aide Lord Coe, Labour MP Syd Rapson and Labour MP Barbara Follett falling for Morris's pranks - not to mention Tory MP David Amess raising questions in the House of Commons about the made-up drug Cake - it is we, not they, who should be furious. Our dumbed-down society seemingly goes right to the top.'



http://www.spiked-online.com/Printable/00000002D1CF.htm

[luckyluke]

159. That doesn't make the case...

...if Ted Nugent voted Democrat that still wouldn't make him liberal.

Bradley was my favorite in the last election, but I preferred McCain over Gore. Does that make me conservative?

Think well before you reply.

-ll

[Screaming Lord Byron]

161. I'm sorry, but Collins is a die-hard Tory.

I'm sorry you can't accept that.

[sujan]

239. read this

http://sparebricks.fika.org/features.html

[ronnykmarshall]

174. Chaka Kahn

She sang at 2000 Rethug convention. I almost :puke:'ed

[NightTrain]

237. Maybe she just needed the money?

I hope that's the only reason Chaka performed there!

[blondeatlast]

255. Sorry, fellow, R'nB fan. She made her conservative views

known in her "auto" biography.

Still gotta love those pipes, though.

[mlawson]

185. Rob Lowe and Gary Busey were on stage with AH-NULD,

the night he won. I didn't see them, but a network announcer said they were.

[YellowRubberDuckie]

206. Gary Busey is a fellow okie...

I've met him. He is a really nice guy...I had no idea he was a repug...dammit...
Duckie

[tarkus]

188. Oh yeah, and don't forget Rush.

[mvd]

205. Some others to add to the list of shame..

Emma Caufield
Belinda Carlisle (I still love the Go Gos - but punk and Republican?)
Sara Evans

[blondeatlast]

257. Punk and Repug really go together well . . .

I was there. Anarchy and the whole thing. Remember, too, that skinheads came out of Punk.

Not all Punk was RW, but a major element of it was. Angry White (unemployed) Males in the UK and such--just like the US.

[Norbert]

213. Michelle Branch- What are her political views?

A couple months back Seanins Hannity was bragging her up sort of like Richard Nixon did with the Carpenters many years ago. This started me wondering about her. Something don't sound right on this especially since she sang on a Carlos Santana song. Carlos is pretty far to the left.

A couple more: Brian McKnight: his named was bandied about a few times on RW web-sites.

Tom Watson the golfer. Had a few sleepovers with Governor shrub if I'm not mistaken.

[mvd]

215. Here's an article on Michelle from the LiberalArtists site

http://www.liberalartists.com/cgi-bin/index.cgi?action=viewnews&id=307

This contradicts Hannity.

[Norbert]

217. GOOD! Michelle Branch is one of us.

This puts my mind at ease.:bounce:

[last_texas_dem]

235. Ahh... makes me feel better, too...

It would break my heart to find out Michelle was a winger! I'd have a hard time believing it, considering I saw some pics during the recording of her last album during the time of the Iraq conflict where she was wearing a cap w/ a peace dove on it, and she opened for the Dixie Chicks for several shows *after* they made "the comments." I still wonder what Hannity was talking about, though?

My mind is at ease once again... :-) haha

[blondeatlast]

259. Funny, there's Michael J. Fox . . .

And Genesis--Peter Gabriel I can believe, but . . .

[FloridaJudy]

218. Mel Gibson

He's widely reputed to have a "cute butt"

Good. That's the part of him I *want* to see. As long as I can see his rear, I'll know he's moving away from me.

There is no way on earth I'd allow this guy within spitting distance of me, and I'd cut my own throat before going to bed with him. The guy doesn't even believe in birth control, let alone equal rights for women.

I don't automatically believe in guilt by association - I have enough Stalinists and Nazis in my own family - but Mel's family is over the top. His father is infamous for declaring that the Holocaust was a Zionist fiction designed to elicit sympathy for the Jews. I'm unlucky enough to have relatives who spew the same venom, and I can't do enough to denounce their views.

Mel says his father "means well, but is misunderstood".

I understand very well, and these creeps don't mean well at all.

[roguevalley]

223. that new creep messing up the chemistry on Law and order? Fred

something. he was in congress and after Clinton if I
recall. Cretin.

[Noordam]

221. :kick:

:kick:

[PROGRESSIVE1]

226. I BOYCOTT right-wing celebrity-types!

:puke:

[LibertyorDeath]

227. Roger Waters "dodgy right-wing political beliefs" check ur source

http://www.lyrics.net.ua/song/21021

lyrics Roger Waters
From the CD-Radio KAOS

The powers that be
They like a tough game
No rules
Some you win, some you lose
Competition's good for you
They're dying to be free
They're the powers that be
They like a bomb proof cadillac
Air conditioned, gold taps
Back seat gun rack, platinum hub caps
they pick horses of courses
They're the market forces
Nice car Jack
They like order, make-up, lime light power
Game shows, rodeos, star wars, TV
They're the power that be
If you see them come,
You better run - run
You better run on home

Sisters of mercy better join your brothers
Put a stop to the soap opera right now
They say the toothless get ruthless
You better run on home

You better run - run
You better run on home

The powers that be
They like treats, tricks, carrots and sticks
They like fear and loathing, the like sheep's clothing
And blacked-out vans

Blacked-out vans, contingency plans
They like death or glory, they love a good story

Sisters of mercy better join with your brothers
Put a stop to the soap opera state
They say the toothless get ruthless
Run home before its too late
You better run - run
You better run on home


Billy: Goodnight, Jim.
Jim: Goodnight, Billy.
Uncle David's Great Dane: Woof, woof, woof!

The canyon - daytime. Billy plays with Great Uncle David's Great Dane.
Paraquat Kelly: Bull heads, three red snapper, one pink
snapper and your Pacific coastal thench hosemonster fish
Cynthia Fox: Ohhh! At Sky David's juke joint of joy reports, forty
under the console giggle stick ling cod, twenty-three purple perches
four sledgehammerhead sharks, and no red snappers.
Paraquat Kelly: Hey and that'll do for the triumphant return of the
fish report with a beat.
Jim: We think of it is a mainstreet, but to the rest of the country
it's Sunset Strip. You're listening to KAOS in Los Angeles.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

264. On his website he said he was likely to vote Tory in 2001

which is strange from a guy I had always picked as far-left.

[nuxvomica]

229. Kurt Russell

Don't forget Kurt Russell.

[RebelOne]

240. No, No, not Kurt Russell!! How could he do that to me?

I always loved him. Now I am disillusioned.

[CanuckAmok]

234. Victoria Jackson from SNL

Born-Again Baptist, and very RW. Interestingly pro Gay Rights, though. Her husband is a Miami cop, and I once ran into him and he was carrying one of O'Reilly's books. Luckily, I was carrying "Stupid White Men", so I cancelled out the evil spell with a spell of my own...

[Norbert]

236. If Vistoria Jackson divorsed then Married Dennis Miller

and then had babies, would two negatives equal positives?

I guess that only happens in mathmatics.

[Endangered Specie]

256. Ben Stein

real hard liner too.