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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 01:55 PM
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Mark Morford loves William Rivers Pitt
or
Be Thankful You're Not Dubya
- Mark Morford, San Francisco Gate

"This Thanksgiving, as you sip the wine and hug the family and toast the friends and hoard the stuffing and curse the airport security, remember to give thanks you are not G.W. Bush. Hey, it's important.

1) Be thankful that you do not have to suffer Dubya's massive crushing karmic burden, as wrought by inflicting heaps of environmental disaster and vicious unnecessary war and a stunning string of lies lies lies like a firehose of giblet gravy splattered all over the planet.

For it really is all too plain: G.W. Bush is one of the most reviled and openly disrespected major world leaders in modern history. America has never been so embarrassed and reluctant to send a president abroad. We cringe when the man takes the stage. We offer humiliated apologies to our former allies, and to the 200,000 Bush/war protesters in London, just last week.

In Bush's defense, it cannot be easy to be so undeservedly powerful, yet so bumbling and inarticulate and globally loathed for your abhorrent policies and hollow corporate agenda and baffled doofus manner. This Thanksgiving, be grateful you are not him.

<snip>


11) Molly Ivins. Gore Vidal. Michiko Kakutani. David Foster Wallace. Don DeLillo. Maureen Dowd. Caroline Myss. W.G. Sebald. Tom Robbins. Starhawk. William Rivers Pitt. Rob Brezny. David Attenborough. Dave Eggers. Joseph Campbell. Lewis Lapham. Haruki Murakami. Katha Pollitt. Et al. Thank you."


Craving more juicy reasons to offer up profound gratitude this T-day? Try a few of these
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/g/a/2003/11/26/notes112603.DTL&type=printable
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 01:58 PM
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1. Yes, we know, it's been
posted already. There are only so many times in a day we can stroke Will's ego, you know.
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 01:59 PM
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2. actually
it's Morford's I'm stokin.
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VelmaD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 02:01 PM
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3. Somebody should...
tell him that. ;-)
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 02:03 PM
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4. I'm sure he already knows.
It's everyone else who needs to be told.
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 02:07 PM
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5. It's at least the third post.
eom.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 02:08 PM
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6. I know, that's what
I was trying to point out. We do have other people on here besides Will, you know.
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 02:09 PM
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7. We do?
eom.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 02:10 PM
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8. Sometimes, you'd
never guess that, would you?
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 02:11 PM
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9. .
:evilgrin:
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 02:19 PM
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10. LOL!
I hear ya!
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 02:26 PM
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12. Hey, thanks guys
I thought this was pretty nice of him to do this. The two of you can't wreck it for me, but thanks for trying. Really. It's big of you, especially on the eve of Thanksgiving. You're a couple of swell folks.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 02:31 PM
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14. Indeed,
it IS nice of him, and a very well-deserved honor, it's just the THIRD TIME IT'S BEEN POSTED TODAY!
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 02:32 PM
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15. And that's a good reason to attack me personally.
You're not insulting the other two people who posted this. You're attacking me. It was really nice of you. Enjoy your Thanksgiving.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 02:33 PM
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16. You too!
n/t
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 02:50 PM
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18. And you, too!
Happy Thanksgiving.

Now, please that is not a personal attack.

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kodi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 03:48 PM
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29. you do good
dont ever forget it
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 02:34 PM
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17. Oh come on folks
Edited on Wed Nov-26-03 02:35 PM by dirk
For what Will does, he deserves this fame. I hadn't seen this before now, so I'm happy it got posted again. For someone to put Will in the same company as David Attenborough, Joseph Campbell, and Gore Vidal...well, I am genuinely impressed, and I think Will deserves this praise. And I don't see any reason for the snide comments. We all do what we can, and Will's efforts should not be an affront to you or anyone.
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 03:06 PM
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20. Reality Check
Edited on Wed Nov-26-03 03:07 PM by jiacinto
If I randomly walked down the street and asked people passing by whether they knew who he was, very few--if any at all--would know who he is, what books he writes, and what he does.

Just something to keep in mind. Outside of DU I know of very few people who know--or even care--who Will Pitt is.

I don't write this post with any intent of malice, but let's be honest. Will Pitt is hardly the "celebrity" that people on this board make him out to be.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 03:42 PM
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27. How can we NOT keep in it mind
when it's constantly shoved in our faces all the time here?
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EV1Ltimm Donating Member (831 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 02:23 PM
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11. I didn't see my name on there.
Must be a conspiracy.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 02:30 PM
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13. to poop on
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 03:03 PM
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19. This is rich
I get attacked for posting about my life several times, and yet Will does it more than once. Where is the outrage
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 03:10 PM
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21. 1) Go back and look at who started the thread
2) You have no point.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 03:12 PM
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23. Actually, he does have a point.
Quite a good one, as a matter of fact.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 03:14 PM
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25. which is what? enlighten the ignorant, plz
.
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 03:44 PM
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28. "Where is the outrage?"
I get attacked for posting about my life several times, and yet Will does it more than once. Where is the outrage

You see Carlos, this is why people flame you for posting about your own life. "Outrage" is not an appropriate sentiment in this discussion.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 03:57 PM
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30. I'm sorry, but that thread Will posted
about Carlos was nothing less than cruel and totally thoughtless. Yes, he removed it himself but only because the thread was getting even uglier and he knew how it would make him look. It appears that there's a real double standard here, the "somebodies (i,e, Will) and the "nobodies" (everyone else).
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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 04:04 PM
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31. The thread you refer to was withdrawn
and Will has apologised.

What do you hope to have your obvious anger at Will Pitt accomplish at this time? What further goal do you hope to have this castigation acheive?
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Nicholas_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 03:12 PM
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22. Big Deal
So one of the many working for one of the many newswires has mentioned you.

I have had half page articles in papers mention and interview me with the other half of the pages with my photo's. Its no biggie. If that is where one's ego must get its moments, more's the pity.


You have a tendency to be rude and abusive to many people.


The one about slapping somones mother with your genitalia was just one example.

The other day you made posted a "DU story in pictures" that was simply cruel.

You then come back and apologize, but go right back to doing the same things again in other posts. And when you have to face the heat from your posts, you demand they be locked or deleted.





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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 03:13 PM
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24. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 03:42 PM
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26. THANK YOU!
That's exactly what I was thinking and trying to say, although in a more "polite" way, lol!
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 04:06 PM
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32. Now THAT is high praise.
Morford is a god.

And for all the "big deals" posted here--many of you are the same ones who chose to jump down the throats of anyone who didn't offer certain other posters unconditional acceptance and love. How's about you lighten the hell up and let Will have his atta boy, or do you choose to hold to a double standard?

I will say this about Will: when he first came to DU, I thought he was a blustering jackass (and, though I love him, he still can be on occasion ;-) ). As someone who used to work in the world of journalism, I had little patience for somebody who shot his mouth off and self-promoted to that extent. But you know what? Will hustled, and Will produced, and I now have nothing but respect for the guy. He's worked his ASS off, and I happily give him props.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 04:08 PM
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33. Oh, come ON,
like Will doesn't get enough "atta boys" all the time, every day!
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 04:14 PM
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34. What, exactly, is your problem?
Edited on Wed Nov-26-03 04:14 PM by Shakespeare
This REALLY bugs you, doesn't it? Yeah, Will gets a lot of strokes here, but they're earned. From the way you go on, though, it sounds as if the Lounge is all Will, all the time--and it isn't. And if anybody else on DU works their ass off to the extent he has and writes till their fingers bleed and manages to publish a couple of pretty decent books all at the same time, then I'll give them the same praise.

I'll say it one more time: he's earned it.

Your nastiness over this is really uncalled for.
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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 04:16 PM
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35. I'll add my second and echo my post above, "what *is* the problem?
What do you hope to have your frequent castigations of Will Pitt acheive?
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 04:17 PM
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36. Look at post 22.
That pretty much says it all.
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 04:20 PM
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37. And I disagree. I've had stories run all over the country with my byline
Won awards, been on TV, etc. PM me if you don't believe me and need details or verification. My experience and my degree of professional exposure, however, have nothing to do with Will's accomplishments, and I'm not going to say "oh, big deal" and try in any way to diminish his accomplishments.
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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 04:22 PM
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38. No, it really doesn't.
Those issues are past. Will has dealt with them and apologised. What further goal do you hope to acheive?

If you truly have no further goal I can but conclude that you simply enjoy kicking the guy around for enjoyment or out of some misplaced anger from your personal life. I'd have a hard time respecting that.

So tell me, without the bitterness this time, - what are you wishing to communicate to Will Pitt, - what do you want him to do or say?
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 04:24 PM
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39. I'm locking this thread
It's turned pretty Ugly IMHO

proud patriot
DU Moderator
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 04:43 PM
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40. HEY SKITTLES! I MAY NEED A LITTLE HELP!
BECAUSE THERE MAY BE JUST A LITTLE MORE ASS IN HERE THAT'S ITCHIN' FOR A KICKIN' THAN I CAN PERSONALLY HANDLE BEFORE SUPPER.

Jesus H. Christ, people.
Look...almost every morning I get this e-mail from Morford called The Morning Fix and today he talked about some of the things he was thankful for (how appropriate, I thought) and one of the writers he liked was Will Pitt and so I thought I'd share it with you.
Read the whole goddam article. It ain't all Will Pitt and I'm not a Will Pitt "stroker", which sounds lewd and obscene anyway <blush>. I like him OK, but I'm not Will's best bud or a member of his fan club.

I thought the "Morford loves Pitt" subject line was juvenile enough to be cutesy, like something Tom would carve about Becky on the old sycamore tree. Sheesh. Screw this. Maybe I won't try cutesy anymore. Whatever.

If it's been posted here before, I missed it. So sue me. Hit alert and call in the Mod Squad.

Oh...and lighten up...a LOT! This ain't effing GD.

Back off and piss off.

And a very Happy Thanksgiving to all.
:wtf:


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