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fishnfla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 11:14 AM
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OK. I brined the bird for 12 hours, but when I went to carve it was raw!
What did I do wrong? Did I miss a step?
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 11:16 AM
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1. Didst thou cook it?
Didst thou smiteth it first?
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fishnfla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 11:45 AM
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5. verily, I was told
thy salty brine was all one needest to do.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 11:53 AM
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8. Then increaseth thee the salt that they brine becometh like
the Dead Sea, where our brothers didst smote the infidel mohammedans, and thy turkey shall be cooked forthwith and unto like a thing angelic.

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agingdem Donating Member (893 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 11:46 AM
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6. You missed a step...
the one between brining and carving...roasting!
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 11:22 AM
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2. I Brined My Bird ...
... And All I Got Was This Lousy Turducken!

--bkl
Done Been Brinin' My Bird for Jesus ...
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 11:29 AM
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3. Double the amount of salt for 2 more hours.
That oughta do it.
;-)
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fishnfla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 11:44 AM
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4. Roger 2 more hours ought to do it!
I shall ply my guests with wine and beer. They wont know the difference.

Sushi Turkey, yeah thats it!
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 11:51 AM
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7. I hope you are going to serve...
Edited on Thu Nov-27-03 12:01 PM by hlthe2b
a Kaopectate/ciprofloxacin cocktail to go along with the Salmonella...

Seriously, please be careful!
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 12:02 PM
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11. Might want to just take the whole meal and serve it in the emergency room
so that there's no need to call an ambulance, or ask someone to drive while ill.

Turkey sashimi - not the best Thanksgiving idea.
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 12:14 PM
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13. Sushi turkey? I think you mrean "Tushi".
Or is that "tushy"?
No, wait...that's something else entirely.
nevermind
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 12:19 PM
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15. Hey no sex threads!
Even for old men. :D
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 12:22 PM
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16. Eggzackley. This is a no-sex thread.
Geezers don't like Ess-Ee-Ex cause it's nasty.
;-)
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Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 12:43 PM
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21. Hey, wait a minute here...
I'm a geezer and I LIKE ess ee ex because it's nasty!

:evilgrin: :bounce: :nuke:
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 12:53 PM
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24. well then yer just an ol prevert
;-)
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Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 04:13 PM
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43. Yes...
With a BIG shit-eating grin!

B-)

Um... so to speak.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 11:55 AM
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9. Cook it unstuffed
It'll cook faster if you don't stuff it. Cook the stuffing on the side, in a bowl, covered with foil. Check it from time to time to make sure it hasn't dried out. If it has, add a little chicken broth.
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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 11:58 AM
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10. Keep roasting the turkey until the temperature
at the inner thigh joint (where the drumstick meats the turkey groin) reaches 155 degrees F on an instant read thermometer. Then let the turkey stand for 10 minutes after you've taken it out of the oven. (It will continue cooking for a few minutes from the residual heat).

If the turkey is already the perfect toasty golden brown, cover it with foil before you put it back in the oven.

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fishnfla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 12:11 PM
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12. Golden brown?
Its kinda gray with green edges
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corarose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 12:37 PM
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20. You need kitchen bouquet for the browning because
It might not brown properly after it has been brined.
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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 01:01 PM
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28. Kitchen Bouquet is a beef base
and your bird will brown properly if it's basted in butter or pan drippings.
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corarose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 01:05 PM
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30. No kidding Sherlock but you can use it to brown Poultry
Why aren't you at your families restaurant today serving food?
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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 01:06 PM
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31. At the expense of it's flavour
You don't read very well if you were ever under the impression that I would be at a restaurant serving food.
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foxy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 01:14 PM
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34. I did read that you had a most excellent menu in store
How's it going?
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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 01:40 PM
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38. It's coming together nicely.
And the boys are already arguing about politics and the Euro.
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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 12:15 PM
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14. No matter what you read...
brining does NOT cook the bird. Brining is to seal the skin and add flavor, then you MUST cook it.
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fishnfla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 02:14 PM
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42. when you say must
there is no ifs ands or maybes?
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 12:24 PM
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17. Did y'all know that the word "gullible" is not in the dictionary?
Check it out.
:evilgrin:
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corarose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 12:26 PM
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18. DO NOT TAKE THAT BIRD OUT AT 155 THAT IS WRONG!
Edited on Thu Nov-27-03 12:28 PM by corarose
My Culinary College recommends the temp to be between 170 & 180 and I would take it out at 175.

THIS IS FROM THE TURKEY FEDERATION.
Insert thermometer in the deepest part of breast or thigh. The thermometer should reach 170°F in the breast or 180°F in the thigh.
When inserting the thermometer in the breast, insert from the side. The thermometer is easier to read and more accurate than when inserted from the top.
Be sure to insert a thermometer into each bird.
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corarose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 12:28 PM
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19. How long did you cook the Bird? The Brine will discolor
Edited on Thu Nov-27-03 12:30 PM by corarose
The meat on the inside and it will make it look a pinkish color depending on what you used to brine it in. Salt cures meat and the end result can be a pinkish color which will fool you so you have to take the temp but do not serve it at 150 or you will end up in the emergency room. It's better to be safe then sorry.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 12:48 PM
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22. I don't think he's cooked it - or plans to cook it - at all!
Seems he has the impression that he can just brine it, and that will 'cook' it, like throwing shrimp in lime juice.

That's my fear, that this bird will never see an oven.
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corarose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 12:51 PM
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23. You can't eat Turkey cervechi
:puke:
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 12:55 PM
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25. No, you CAN eat it
You just likely can't SURVIVE eating it.

:evilgrin:
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corarose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 12:57 PM
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26. Can you imagine what it would taste like?
Have you ever had undercooked chicken before? :puke:
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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 01:03 PM
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29. I think you mean "Ceviche"
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corarose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 01:07 PM
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32. Thanks Can I count on you as my Spell Check from now on?
:kick:
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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 01:11 PM
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33. You may rely that if you continue to give inaccurate information
and I read it, I will point it out.
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corarose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 01:20 PM
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37. Your family owns a Restaurant then why aren't you at work?
I am just curious about this.

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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 01:44 PM
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39. You have never read anywhere my saying "my family owns a restaurant"
but as it happens, My brother owns and operates one in California's Sonoma Valley. And my mother was the executive chef at one before her death two years ago.

My brother's restaurant is closed on Thanksgiving day, and he's here cooking along with the family.

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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 12:59 PM
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27. Stick a meat thermometer in it and put it in the oven
Until the thermometer says it's done.
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 01:15 PM
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35. I say again...Did y'all know that the word "gullible"
is not in the dictionary?


Check it out.



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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 01:17 PM
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36. I looked, and you're right - it isn't!
Check it out!

:evilgrin:
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fishnfla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 02:12 PM
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40. Someone played a mean trick on me
Edited on Thu Nov-27-03 02:13 PM by fishnfla
they didnt say nothing about no oven!

I'm afraid that every opinion that my mother-in-law has about my so-called intelligence has been proven today. This is a disaster!

Great-grandma ate it, now shes looking kinda grayer, with green edges.

This will be the last time they ask me to host!

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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 02:14 PM
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41. LOL!
Add more salt to your grandma!
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