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AWD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 11:31 AM
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Need links to articles of the actual recount
Can anybodyu supply me with links to articles thatshow Gore would have won the full recount? I have a Moran that says Bush won every recount ever done.
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 11:34 AM
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1. National Opinion Research Center did the analysis
Edited on Sat Nov-29-03 11:35 AM by greatauntoftriplets
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 11:40 AM
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2. A legal recount was NEVER done
Edited on Sat Nov-29-03 11:41 AM by BareKnuckledLiberal
It was stopped by the SCOTUS (Supreme Court Of The US).

Several newspapers conducted their own recounts. A consortium of newspapers found that under different conditions proposed by both Bush and Gore, that Gore won 6 of the 9 trial recounts. This was spun as "Bush Really Did Win (in a couple of cases)".

So much for the "counted and re-counted" Team Bush lie.

--bkl
(edit: quotation marks)
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PDittie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 12:31 PM
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3. Best summary I have found:
http://www.seacoastonline.com/2001news/11_12_w2.htm

"A manual recount of all ballots identifies not only those ballots which show no vote but also those which contain more than one, the so-called overvotes," the court said. "Neither category will be counted by the machine. This is not a trivial concern."

Gore never did press in court for a full recount and the strategy he followed to seek the undervotes alone likely would not have benefited him. When the consortium tabulations tried to recreate the partial recounts Gore did pursue, those two scenarios kept Bush ahead:

—FOUR COUNTIES. If Gore had been successful in his initial efforts for recounts of all ballots in Miami-Dade, Palm Beach, Broward and Volusia counties.

Result: Bush ahead by 225 votes.

—STATEWIDE UNDERVOTE: If the state Supreme Court-ordered recount on Dec. 9 had not been stopped by the U.S. Supreme Court. The review considered this scenario under two different criteria — one that followed the court's literal instruction to examine only undervotes and another that followed the intentions of each county's election officials, some of whom told reporters they also would examine overvotes.

Result: Bush ahead, with a range of 430 to 493.

In the review of all the state's disputed ballots, Gore edged ahead under all six scenarios for counting all undervotes and overvotes statewide:

—PREVAILING STANDARD: County election officials told Florida journalists how they would define votes if required to do a recount and in this scenario the majority standard was imposed statewide. A notable element of this standard was that, in punch-card counties, ballots with at least one corner of a chad detached counted as votes.

Result: Gore ahead by 60 votes.

—TWO-CORNER STANDARD: At least two corners of a chad must be detached to count as a vote, a position that had been argued, at times, by Bush supporters.

Result: Gore ahead by 105 votes.

—MOST INCLUSIVE: Ballots with dimpled chads count as votes, an argument often made by Gore supporters.

Result: Gore ahead by 107 votes.

—LEAST INCLUSIVE: Only cleanly punched chads count as valid votes. For optical scan, only fully filled ovals and those ballots on which a voter filled in the oval and wrote in the candidate's name, too.

Result: Gore ahead by 115 votes.

—COUNTY-by-COUNTY: Drawn from the county election officials. It accepts results from Broward and Volusia counties because those counties completed hand counts that were included in state-certified election totals. For those counties that said they would not count overvotes, relies on prevailing standard.

Result: Gore ahead by 171 votes.

—PALM BEACH STANDARD: Based on a standard Palm Beach election officials briefly used, this counts dimpled chads as valid votes if a pattern of dimpled chads exists elsewhere on the same ballot. Same as prevailing standard for optical scan ballots.

Result: Gore ahead by 42 votes.
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