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Fixated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 01:03 PM
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Poll question: What is the hardest drug you've ever tried?
What (in your opinion) is the hardest drug you've ever used?
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 01:05 PM
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1. alcohol
Edited on Sat Nov-29-03 01:28 PM by JohnKleeb
:beer:
Yes I am pathenic
I guess alcohol is the most hardest but I dunno, pot or whatever seems harder but Ive had the most alcohol, now lemme slip up to my cousin's house in Delaware and get some booze.
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Fixated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 01:07 PM
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4. ....
You're friggin 16! Haha, I'm only 18 and I'd recommend pot to you; safer than alcohol.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 01:10 PM
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10. well on pot
Someone is gonna be trying it out soon :D. Damnit when I am gonna get that call. Yeah I am frigging 16, frigging 16 and a 1/3 thank ya very much!
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 01:09 PM
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7. Well, since Caffeine is not on the list, I will pick that
And alcohol and nicotine are the hardest drugs out there.
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Raenelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 01:24 PM
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17. I did everything that was around a quarter of a century ago,
including the stuff you need a needle for, and the drug that kicked my ass the hardest was alcohol.
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 01:26 PM
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18. Agreed. Alcohol killed Hendrix, Janis, Morrison, Dean... even
Garcia, although more slowly.

And millions others.

How many died from pot, acid or speed?
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 01:51 PM
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23. How exactly did alcohol kill Garcia?
Jerry hated booze. He was into "the persian," a very potent form of smokable heroin, which debilitated him, but his death was caused by a heart attack exacerbated by a vicious case of diabetes, due to a poor diet and no excercise. Hell, let's include junk food on the list!
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 01:55 PM
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27. Yes, I thought it was
the diabetes and heart disease that finally killed him. :shrug:
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 02:34 PM
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33. Okay, junk food too... but his doctor said the diabetes came
from his drinking days.
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absyntheNsugar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 06:05 PM
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42. and don't forget going off persian
DT'ing has it's own set of health risks - so much that most doctors don't reccomend DTing for junkies in their golden years.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 05:25 PM
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38. Same here, more than once.
tobacco was the only thing that I got hooked on.

Now a beer every few days, or some bourbon.
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 07:22 PM
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50. Most hardest?
My head is going to explode. LOL
Duckie
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SadEagle Donating Member (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 01:05 PM
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2. Coffee!
;-)
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populistmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 01:07 PM
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3. Demoral
Edited on Sat Nov-29-03 01:07 PM by populistmom
After a difficult birth experience. That stuff was too much for me. I don't react well to chemicals really. Most of the time, my own hormones and neurotransmitters are more than ample as mood altering substances.
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 01:13 PM
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15. Ooo, Demoral!
Before I met Mrs. Amok, I dated a crazy Cardiologist who was truly screwed up on the stuff. She used to have candy bowls of the stuff on her bedside table and coffee table.

And she used to give herself local anaestetic injections for fun.

Good times, back then.... :evil:
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FloridaJudy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 02:30 AM
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61. Ooops! I thought this poll was about *illegal* use!
Demerol definately kicks butt, but for post-surgical pain, nothing beats good old morphine.

I've also had several minor surgeries using "conscious sedation": a combo of Demerol and Versed. This stuff makes you feel so good, that you don't CARE what disgusting indignities the surgeons are committing on your hapless bod (Wheee!! That was Fun! Do it again!"). It would be a hell of a street drug, were it not for the fact that it has to be given in a setting with emergency life-support available, since patients frequently get so laid-back that they forget to breathe...
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 01:08 PM
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5. .....
How do you determine what is the hardest? If I have tried them all...what one would I click? :shrug:
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Fixated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 01:08 PM
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6. ....
That's why I left it up to you....I'd say heroin personally, but it's your opinion on which was harder.
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 01:09 PM
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8. Morphine!
After my last surgery, they put me on morphine by that IV-pump thingy; WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY cool shit! :P
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 01:45 PM
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21. Morphine for me too
When I had my back surgery many years ago now. They told me not to be brave and just ask for as much as I needed because it would hurt... a lot. This was before the morphine pump though, so I had to ask for it about every six hours or so.

I took all I could stand. I basically played junkie for a week. ;-)
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 01:09 PM
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9. Not to be a definition flamer, but ...
Edited on Sat Nov-29-03 01:11 PM by BareKnuckledLiberal
The term "Hard Drug(s)" refers to the addictive property of the drug, not the risk of psychiatric damage, or the public's idea of how "scary" the drug is.

Damaging drug: ofloxacin (Floxin)
Publically scary drug: None of yer beezwax! :-)
Addictive drug: meperidine (Demerol)

--bkl
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Bombero1956 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 01:11 PM
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12. oooh
St Joseph's aspirin for children, man what a high!!
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 02:02 PM
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29. Yeah.. wonder I didn'd OD as a kid on the St. Joseph's
I loved those little orange flavored tabs!
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Dulcinea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 01:11 PM
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11. Hashish...would that qualify?
good buzz....better than pot.
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DODI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 05:00 PM
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36. What is hash?
I know what it is, but what is it?
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absyntheNsugar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 06:07 PM
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43. Hash is....
Edited on Sat Nov-29-03 06:07 PM by absyntheNsugar
the resins from the leaves, buds and stalks from marijuana. There's lots of ways to extract that resin, the most popular of which is to rub the leaves, buds and stalks to gether until the resin and the leaves separate.

Very similar to keef.
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 01:12 PM
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13. ZombyCoffee
Followed by NyQuil on the Zomby Hardness Scale.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 01:12 PM
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14. other - mescaline
hooooo boy.. the visions I had that night I will never forget!!
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Beaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 06:26 PM
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49. my favourite trip was on mescaline-
during a sunny autumn day in Michigan...the clours were AMAZING and I felt like the king of the fuckin' world.
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Spirochete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 01:15 PM
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16. Tried them all
but not sure which one is the hardest. At a guess, I'd say alcohol. At least in terms of being hardest to keep away from.
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stimbox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 01:39 PM
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19. i've experimented a lot...
Pot, LSD, Speed, Coke, and Pills.

Nicoteen and caffeine are my favorites though.
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sleipnir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 01:40 PM
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20. Is it in order? Because Heroin is much Harder than coke/crack.
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 01:48 PM
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22. I've done everything, but...
Ketamine is not on the list, and it ought to be. I thought I'd never be normal again. Took me about a year to recover from that shit.

My father was a heroin addict and died from it, so I've never tried it, although the temptation was there during my nihilist years.

I've done coke twice. Hated it. Turned me into an arrogant Viking-like stomping, yelling thing. Pissed off a lot of people both those times.

After pot, the hardest thing I do nowadays is Benadryl.
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Bozola Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 01:52 PM
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24. What I'll never understand is...


why people admit to illegality, not just publically, but in places Ashcroft's minions watch closely.

What is also worse, is that you are giving ammunition to the RW that DU is a "liberal" haven for stupid gay crackheads and moronic dopers. I don't give a damn of what you all do in private, but please try to contain your idiocy so it doesn't stain the rest of us.
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 02:02 PM
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28. I'd rather be high on drugs and peace than guns and war.
And I'll leave it at that. Fuck, man, they can't bust us all!
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Bozola Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 06:02 PM
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41. Case in point.

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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 06:16 PM
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44. thanks for saying it
really, try stoners.com or something. Poll Question: Which felonies are you guilty of?
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 01:30 AM
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58. Statute of Limitations, Boz....
Dropped 1/2 a hit of Sunshine 28 years ago. Rotsaruck!

I don't think even Calico Johnnie could make that stick.
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 10:54 AM
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65. Well excuse the fuck out of us for being human
part of the reason we have to watch what we say is because of you fucking nannies. Don't you suppose that every damn one of us has a file that grows larger daily? Fuck it, come and get me fuckheads I'm fucking sick of nannies. Living in this reality sucks big green ones, war, death, reppression, lies, fuck it.
The hardest drug? I don't know, I once fired up some mda, but what really kicked me in the ass, was years of tobacco and alcohol.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 01:53 PM
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25. reality
I'm still trying to get over it
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Andyjunction Donating Member (167 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 01:54 PM
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26. Missed a huge one
Crystal meth
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 02:12 PM
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30. I voted other.
Tried them all except heroin. Lots of experimenting in my wasted youth.
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rppper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 02:04 AM
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59. same here...watched my brothers detox from it.....
.....decided at the tender age of 8 that was not what i wanted to waste a week doing....

mostly pot for me, but i had a problem with methamphetamine for 3 years...solid years...i was also doing a lot of ecstacy back in the mid 80's...when it was pure pharmacutical MDMA...as well as my fair share of halucenogens.

the drug use stopped in may of 1988...a month before i went to boot camp, but i did drink heavily throughout my time in the service...we all did...but i drasticly cut down after i got out in 97, mainly because i could smoke herb again. i gave up herb in december, 2000...

i have now been nearly a year without drinking, not that it was a problem, but that it was hypocritical, in my mind, to work with recovering addicts for a living and still be drinking.

i am still working on cigarettes...but i will not budge on the coffee...lol...

there is no one drug harder than another...an addict is an addict forever, be it coke, heroin or beer. it is a day to day struggle for the addictive personality to resist the urge to use...whatever their poison......


http://www.na.org/
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 02:19 PM
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31. whatever addictive drug it was, that turned family into Repugs!
Thank God, I managed to avoid that horrendous addiction!


Seriously, though. Those who came through in the 60's and 70's were exposed to a very different culture when it came to drugs. But even if they tried marijauna, or other harder substances, does not mean they became addicted nor do so now... Agreed, though on the risk from alcohol & tobacco, which in the scheme of things are probably far more dangerous... I managed no avoid addiction to either of these. Today's addiction to overeating, junk food, and lack of exercise, is a different story, however (and equally hard to break).
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 02:19 PM
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32. dupe, post.... sorry
Edited on Sat Nov-29-03 03:14 PM by hlthe2b
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nuxvomica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 02:40 PM
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34. Easy: alcohol
Of the illegal drugs, I've only tried pot. Of legal herbals, I've tried ephedra and salvia, both of which are much more dangerous than marijuana. I would never do ephedra again or salvia after drinking beer. It made me :scared:. I've never used the prescription painkillers that everyone seems to salivate over, either.
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ajacobson Donating Member (828 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 04:51 PM
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35. Acid Trip - Once
Watched the Graduate on video - most profound thing I've ever experienced

Watched a t.v. commercial - most profound thing I've ever experienced

Stared at the tip of a cigarette for six hours (or was it five minutes?) - most profound thing I've ever experienced

Once was enough.
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reknewcomer Donating Member (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 05:21 PM
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37. Love
It is the most addictive and trigers the most nuerons. It is poison to all and none are immune. A lethal dose is always the cure.
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 05:27 PM
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39. voted acid....but shrooms sure are wicked......
.....it's a toss up! *puts on some Floyd* :crazy:
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 05:28 PM
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40. Recreational drug use is boring.

But some substances are medicinal when used properly.
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Beaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 06:19 PM
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46. boy, have you got the wrong supplier.
nt
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absyntheNsugar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 06:16 PM
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45. Don't understand the question...
By what measure is one drug harder than the other? IMO, alchohol is as 'hard' as morphine, opium or coke - whereas marijuana, hashish and esctasy are in a class below that. To me a drug's 'hardness' has more to do with how in control of your facilities you are under the influence of that drug, and how addictive it may be. By this measure, Nicotine is a 'hard' drug, and harder than mushrooms.

I suppose there should also be other factors involved - such as how some drugs you cannot OD on (such as marijuana) and others it's really easy.
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Beaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 06:22 PM
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47. Mescaline, Peyote, MDMA, Quaaludes, not on the list?
inhalants are the only ones on the list that I haven't partaken in...but I always love the smell of my fingers after I put gas in the car.
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 06:26 PM
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48. Life.
And man, the rush is INCREDIBLE.
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 08:07 PM
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51. Life...
living it in a repug regime is harder than any drug out there. :-(
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greendog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 08:33 PM
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52. TV
The plugged in drug. If you're not careful it'll suck your brain right out of your skull. It's best to avoid it at all cost.
:)

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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 08:35 PM
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53. Comtrex almost KILLED me
:(

One dose and I was unconscious ..
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 09:03 PM
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54. I started college in the fall of 1967...
And that's all I'm gonna say about drug use! :evilgrin:
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Kamika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 09:06 PM
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55. Tobacco
yes I know..

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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 10:08 PM
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56. Laced ghetto weed
On New years Eve a few years ago. That stuff almost knocked me out.

The stuff's a lot stronger than when I was younger (1980's).

Had very little desire to smoke up since. i'll jsut stick with cigarettes and Pepsi One as my current drugs of choice.
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 10:39 PM
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57. Bad trip


I have tried just about every type of addictive substance known to man,liked some more than others.

The worst trip I ever had by far was when I was driving through western Oklahoma in a truck with only an AM radio. The choice of stations was limited out there and before I knew it,I had listened to almost 2 hours of the OxyRush program.Bad,Bad trip! I DO NOT reccomend trying this substance.

Friends don't let friends listen to Rush!
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Insider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 02:08 AM
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60. voted
but i'll neither confirm nor deny the substance.
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Booberdawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 03:15 AM
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62. Never did get in to the drug scene although everyone around me did
but I did do acid once when I was about 19 and it was AWFUL! BAD TRIP! I decided to crawl into bed and close my eyes to make it go away (that must have taken me an hour to do) and that just made it worse. I think that experience cured any curiosity I had about drugs for the rest of my life.

I can count on one hand how many times I've smoked pot. It's not that I'm above it - it just makes me get nauseous and sick. A guy a dated in college was convinced he had the solution to this problem and decided he was going to treat me to some good stuff that would not make me sick on my birthday. It was at a party for a professor that was retiring at the college. His theory was that I just had never been exposed to the good shit.

OMFG, I lasted about a half hour at that party. When he helped me out of there we had to navigate steps and I told him if I bend my knees I will collapse, so he held me up and covered my ass getting me out of there. I spent the ride home leaning out the car window barfing.

He picked me up for classes the next morning and there were a lot of comments being made by the instructor and classmates about my not being cut out for champagne. ;-)

You can have your drugs.


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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 03:18 AM
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63. Too bad there is not a
all of the above choice...:evilgrin:
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 09:38 AM
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64. Ecstacy, plus about fifteen acid trips.
Enough to be declared clinically insane, if you believe all that crap.
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FDRrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 10:57 AM
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66. Other: E
I would put it right above LSD... in terms of hardness.
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 11:45 AM
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67. that depends on which you think is "harder"
alcohol or marijuana
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