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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 10:04 PM
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Why do people refer to certain musical enjoyment as "guilty pleasures"?
I'm not being facetious. I'm entirely serious.

If someone derives genuine entertainment, pleasure, enjoyment out of music - even if others consider that particular song/artist/genre/whatever to be unworthy - then how can it be a "guilty pleasure"?

I like all kinds of music. Some of it is obviously artistically superior to the rest, and some is pretty trite. But I don't feel guilty for enjoying any of it, nor embarrassed, nor ashamed.

Beauty, as they say, is in the eye - or ear - of the beholder.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 10:08 PM
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1. Because the music snobs will try and make us feel that way.
I am an unapologetic Bobby Goldsboro fan who cries every time I hear "Honey" :hi:
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qnr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 10:11 PM
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2. It's like food, some yummy stuff makes you fat. Some yummy music
also makes you fat, because you just have lay back, relax, and savor it. Your muscles atrophy if you do this too often.

Er, what was the question again?
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electron_blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 10:25 PM
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3. I say that about artists I normally don't like and then secretly covet
one of their songs.

Like the occasional Madonna and Rick Astley!

All in all, I agree with you - if I like a piece of music, then it's a gift from the gods!
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 11:23 PM
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4. I had a girlfriend in the 80's and she and I would listen
to Rick Astley ad nauseam! Thanks for that blast from the past. I have two of his albums, btw.
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amitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 11:25 PM
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5. Both your avatar and sig pic remind me of Rick Astley.
Odd, but true.
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 11:45 PM
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6. That is odd
but I have heard stranger...like * is the best prez eva!
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amitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 12:05 AM
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7. Come on, just stare at that dancing Grover while you sing the
song "Never Gonna Give You Up" in your head!
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 10:31 AM
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21. OMG!
You're right! :rofl:
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Benfea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 12:10 AM
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8. I tell myself I don't care what others think...
…but the truth is, we're all social mammals and to some extent, we all do.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 12:17 AM
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9. I don't give a rat's ass what anyone thinks. For example, I listened to
"Lover's Concerto" by the Toys in my car today. With the window down. Didn't care who heard it.

I still like that song because of its innocence. Plus, I actually had a day like that about thirty years ago:

---------------------------------------------------------
How gentle is the rain that falls softly on the meadow
Birds high up in the trees serenade the clouds with their melodies

Oh, see there beyond the hill, the bright colours of the rainbow.
Some magic from above made this day for us just to fall in love

Now I belong to you from this day until forever,
Just love me tenderly and I'll give to you every part of me.

Oh, don't ever make me cry through long lonely nights without love.
Be always true to me, keep this day in your heart eternally.

Some day we shall return to this place upon the meadow.
We'll walk out in the rain, see the birds above singing once again.

Oh, you'll hold me in your arms, and say once again you love me,
And if your love is true, everything will be just this wonderful.

You'll hold me in your arms, and say once again you love me,
And if your love is true, everything will be just this wonderful.
------------------------------------------------------------------

Everyone should get to feel like that, if just once.

Redstone
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 02:11 AM
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10. That's beautiful.
:)
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 02:16 AM
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12. Is *that* what the first line says?
Jeebus. All these years I thought it was "I'll chase away the rain."

:crazy:
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abex Donating Member (217 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 02:13 AM
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11. it's better than innocent pain
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Indy_Dem_Defender Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 03:14 AM
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13. I think of guilty pleasures in music
when someone who is a totally into one genre of music and they happen to like a certain artist in another genre of music.

like this
Heavy Metal fan - listens to some Marvin Gaye
Classical fan - listens to some Spice Girls
Hip-Hop fan - listens to some Garth Brooks
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Beware the Beast Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 03:15 AM
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14. It may be something "unhip" or out of character for the listener.
That's how I see it.
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vino Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 06:32 AM
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15. As ever
the Guardian helps out :D
http://www.guardian.co.uk/arts/fridayreview/story/0,12102,1276556,00.html
There are 2 albums now called Guilty Pleasures
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 07:44 AM
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16. Well music is subjective.
Edited on Sun Feb-05-06 07:44 AM by DanCa
I for one can't stand this pop stuff, and I have stopped watching American Idol but I wont insult anyone for watching it.
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stpalm Donating Member (734 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 09:18 AM
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17. It's a music hipster thing
Edited on Sun Feb-05-06 09:21 AM by stpalm
For example, saying "Bon Jovi are my guilty pleasure" accomplishes two things:

-makes people think that Bon Jovi is the only bad band that you listen to (they do suck pretty hard)
-makes people think that you don't care about what anyone thinks, because you loudly proclaim your love for Bon Jovi.

This gets them big points in the "horn-rimmed glasses tight pants meterosexual sweater/ironic t-shirt music snob" crowd.
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 09:36 AM
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18. As a Musician, I feel that it just means >>>>
"Look...I'm well aware that this Group/Band/Person is not the epitome
of musical taste and talent but for some Dark or Wonderful reason (?),
I enjoy listening to them and I'm making this statement so you can keep your
Musical criticisms regarding my Taste... to yourself" :)
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aclog Donating Member (521 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 09:41 AM
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19. I dunno maybe the same reason
masturbation is a guilty pleasure...the shame in getting caught in the act?

The problem is you can't close the bathroom door and discreetly blast out some Bon Jovi, now can you ;)?
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billyskank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 09:53 AM
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20. That's why god invented personal stereos
:thumbsup:
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 01:30 PM
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23. But that's part of my question - why feel shame?
There's nothing shameful about it.

To use MrsGrumpy's example - she likes Bobby Goldsboro's "Honey", probably one of the most villified songs in pop music history. Just because I don't like it is no reason for her to feel guilty and ashamed for her enjoyment of it.
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samplegirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 11:43 AM
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22. I agree
I really believe music is a personal preference. To me any music
that brings pleasure is an Art in itself.

I think music is an extention of many things in many forms.

I really like a lot of different music depending on my mood.
I have no problem stepping away from what others may think
is generation bias.

I like listening to new or obsecure music.
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