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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 12:29 AM
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MILITARY DUers... ROLL CALL!!!
Edited on Sun Nov-30-03 12:47 AM by MrScorpio
How many of us DUers are currently in or have past military service?

I think it's about time those right-wings trolls lurking around in our beloved DU realize that more than a few of us liberals love our country enough to put our lives on the line.

Just because we're military doesn't mean than we're in the pocket of Shrub and the Repug party.

All you brats, give a shout out too!!

Post pics if you got em.

It's time to show your ass.


Mr Scorpio
USAF 1983 - Present!!
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 12:32 AM
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1. Air Force brat here
nt
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 12:33 AM
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2. not me... but family members
My late and liberal father was a WWII vet. Left college to enlist - before a draft could be instituted. (Army Air Corps)

Brother and Sister-in-Law also served in the eighties/nineties. (Army)
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 12:34 AM
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3. You might want to change your thread title to reflect military service
we have LOTS of DU'er who are/have served.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 12:42 AM
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4. *click* *pop* *snap*
and all the other jarhead goodness :7
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leftbend Donating Member (196 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 12:42 AM
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5. Present and Accounted for !
I don't think veterans are as conservative as the public or politicians perceive.
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Another Bill C. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 12:45 AM
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6. USN, ETR3
forty-five years ago.
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hussar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 12:46 AM
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7. Brit vet living and kicking in the USA
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45th Med Donating Member (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 10:45 PM
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60. I LOVE FAL'S! I SEE YOUR'S THERE!!!
I LOVE THAT INCH PATTERN FAL!
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hussar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 12:25 AM
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65. Yup L1A1 7.62 alas no longer issued
they now use the SA80

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kodi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 12:46 AM
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8. Army Corps of Engineers '74-76 (please dont mention the grand teton dam)
lost an uncle in viet nam, dad was wounded in korea. step-dad and another uncle viet nam vets, one brother ex-navy, another brother still in air force who spent time in afghanistan/uzbekistan last year (and tells me they hate our guts, and there is gettng to be more and more sqawk against bush at the lower levels and from enlisted lifers).

and my 73 year old dad is to the left of me and could kick the ever-livin' shit out of any freeper who questioned his patriotism.

yeap, we's a bunch a cowards in my family.
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 12:54 AM
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10. I feel you, Man
Wife, 4 Years US Army
My dad, Army Captain, Korean War
My Step Brother, US Army 1985 - Present
His dad, 30 year US Army CSM
Cousin, 2 tours Vietnam, Artillery,
Uncle, Army Korean War
Cousin 4 Years USMC
Cousin 6 Years USAFR
Cousin USN
Cousin 4 Years US Army
Cousin, 10 Years USAF

ALL DEMOCRATS, BABY!!!!!

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UCLA02 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 12:53 AM
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9. USN 1993-97 (with pic)
AO2(AW) with VFA-25 at NAS Lemoore, CA

Crossing the equator, 1996. That's me on the right. Our boss (in the middle) had never crossed and we had to take the opportunity to torture him with impugnity.

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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 01:00 AM
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11. US Army
Just a dumb draftee that added "no value, no advantage, really, to the United States Armed Services over any sustained period of time."
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Pattib Donating Member (396 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 01:02 AM
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12. Navy (8yrs.) crypto. tech. Husband is retired (23 yrs.). I often
get asked in a surprising manner, "Oh, I thought military people were conservative?" Not in my house. Actually, I don't remember discussing politics with anyone while I was in the service. Granted, that was in the eighties.
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nono Donating Member (357 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 01:07 AM
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13. Navy
1952---1956
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Holly Donating Member (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 01:13 AM
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14. Canadian Navy brat here
Edited on Sun Nov-30-03 01:23 AM by Holly
Officers daughter

Both grandfathers WW2
Great-grandfather WW1
Father in-law WW2 three times wounded in action
Husbands grandfather WW2
A liberal family proud to defend and serve
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ProudGerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 01:15 AM
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15. 15 year Army brat vet here
I grew up with a Seargent, not a father. lol
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 01:20 AM
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16. Here I be
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rppper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 01:23 AM
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17. USN...submarines....88-97.....
i am the guy on the right, towards the aft end of the sail....really, it's me...this was part of the Tucson's "bravo" sea trials. we were doing a flank surface bell, then going all back full. this was done to test the shaft and determine how long it took us to come to a halt.

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Booberdawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 01:26 AM
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18. Served in the Army Reserves after high school
in a field hospital unit. That same unit served in the Gulf War but I was long gone by then

And my father is retired Air Force
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Insider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 01:54 AM
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19. always out front
me, army, 1985-2000
father, army, korea
grandfather, navy, WWII
uncle, army, last of the buffalo soldiers
aunt, navy & peace corps
uncle, army, vietnam (retiree)
great-uncle, army (retiree)
cousin (and wife), army, ds/ds (wife is still in)
cousin (and wife), army
cousin (and wife), army
cousin (and wife), army (wife just had their 1st baby, two weeks later he went to korea)
cousin, army, vietnam

(guessing 12 out of 15 are democrats, including me)
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 05:35 AM
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25. buffalo soldier
My uncle was drafted in 1940 and was assigned to the other buffalo division (93rd division) and served in the Pacific theater. He retired from the Army as a Major General. I visited the on-line Truman library and was surprised to find one of his letters in the "Desegregation of the Armed Forces: 1946 Folder".

I, too, was drafted and assigned to a buffalo battalion that was part of The 92nd Infantry Division during WWI and WWII. It was an all black unit known as the "Black Buffaloes". Although fully integrated when I was with them (thank you Harry Truman), we took pride in our battalion history and today I really enjoy the fact that my unit fought with the French during WWI, earning campaign streamers for the Meusse-Argonne and Lorraine campaigns. The US would not let my unit fight but chose to assign them to the French, instead. The French loved, and used them because they were real soldiers!

I'm a buffalo soldier in spirit only, but I toast real soldiers with French wine...
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scottcsmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 01:55 AM
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20. U.S. Navy Journalist (JO)/Desert Storm vet
Edited on Sun Nov-30-03 01:56 AM by scottcsmith
Served PROUDLY 1986-1992. Served aboard USS Blue Ridge for both Desert Shield/Desert Storm. Check out the hate mail at my web site, I've got people writing to me telling me I'm not a "real" vet because I don't support this current war. I've been called (elsewhere) a traitor and un-American. Usually coming from people who never wore a uniform, of course.
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politicat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 03:09 AM
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21. Posting for the family:
Me: Air Force ROTC college (medical discharge, vision, 1993-1997)
Mr. Politicat: Army National Guard, 1990-1997, served in Iraq I, artillery (where he left his hearing.)

My father: US Navy, Engineering and Base Ops, Officer. 1968 to 1989 Vietnam, Grenada, Panama. He lost his sanity to the navy.

My grandfather: US Navy Pacific Theater 1942-1945. European Marshall Plan: 1945-50

My sister (1): Army ROTC (Medical Discharge, multiple, 1997-1999)
Brother in Law (sister 1): US Army active Duty 101st Airborne Fort Campbell KY, currently at (what are they calling the international airport in Baghdad?) Airport, Baghdad, Iraq since February, 2003. Due home March, 2004.

Brother in law 2: (Married to sister 2 who figured out that ROTC made her sisters lose their health.) US Marines 3rd Division, Camp LeJeune NC. Currently home. Iraq from January 2003 to June 2003. Scheduled to return to Afghanistan in April, 2004 for 1 year.

All registered Democrats.
All opposed to the war.
And every one of us annoyed as all hell that the Feds are screwing with basic benefits like combat pay and interest payments, not to mention VA benefits.

What was that about too cowardly to serve our country? If they'd have let me stay, I would have. Same for my sister. But we legally blind have no place in the line of fire.

Politicat
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 03:31 AM
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22. Navy/Coast Guard
HM2 in the Navy with USMC
72-76

BMCS in the USCG
80-00
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 03:35 AM
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23. Air Force brat, Air Force vet
born on Chanute AFB in Illinois, enlisted in '75. I was a sergeant. YES INDEED! :D
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Knoxville_Bob Donating Member (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 11:22 AM
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31. I was at Chanute
In 1984 - went there for tech school...it's not the end of the world, but you can see Rantoul from there....
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 02:19 PM
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45. I lived at Chanute too. Don't shoot him - Chanute him!
Air Force brat here! :D
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 08:40 PM
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55. my dad was in meteorology tech school there
when I was born. :)
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 03:48 AM
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24. USMC


20 years ago.
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Submariner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 07:26 AM
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26. Navy IC3 (SS) 1965-69
Smokeboats: Where the Navy sent their handsome and intelligent babe magnets that were too good for skimmers :)

Goin' deep, rigged for depth charge.....

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bearfan454 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 07:58 AM
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27. US Navy for me
1974 to 1977. Vietnam Era Veteran.
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XNASA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 04:21 PM
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49. Me too. USN, 75-77.
USS FDR.

My hitch was only 28 months active. And yes, I was honorably discharged.
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 08:17 AM
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28. 106th TRS, 117th TRW, ALAANG
1963-1971
AKA "The Birmingham, Alabama Gentlemen's Flying Club".
Flew RF-84/F.
Recce/fighter
"We killum with fillum"
or
"Alone, unarmed, and unafraid"
And no, I didn't see George*.
;-)
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Dees Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 08:20 AM
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29. Here Sir. US Army
1964-66.
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tekriter Donating Member (734 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 10:06 AM
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30. USAF 1974 - 1978
Electronic Warfare Systems Specialist 32853.
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Sabot120 Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 11:34 AM
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32. In and out since '81
US Army '81-84 MOS19K M1A1 gunner 1/7 Cav'
Oregon national guard '97-present. Still MOS19K but my unit's been deployed since Mar' to a chemical weapons site (One of OURS)
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 12:53 PM
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34. Hi Sabot120!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Sabot120 Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 02:09 PM
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42. Thanks newyawker' :)
:)
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 10:47 PM
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61. Welcome to DU, Sabot
We need all the sabots we can get around here when the time comes...
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imax2268 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 11:50 AM
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33. GO NAVY...!!!
BTFN US NAVY USS SAMUEL GOMPERS...

FIREROOM...B-Division...Some people called us HoleSnipes...but we made sure the ship got where it was going...full steam ahead baby...!

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Brother Buzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 02:06 AM
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71. US Army, here, but I love your photo...
I was stationed right above your aft crane (or whatever you navy boys call it) at Fort Baker for a whopping two whole weeks before being sent overseas, and Sausalito, my hometown (fifty-one years ago) is above your bow. Hey, neat ship, too, sad to see she has been decommissioned.
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Johnyawl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 01:06 PM
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35. USMC 1968-71

Vietnam 1969-70

two cousins also served in Vietnam

My Dad & two uncles served in WWII

My Grandfather & two great uncles saw action in WWI

My great-great grandfather served in the Union Army during the Civil War
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amandae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 01:08 PM
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36. Former USMC Wife
Husband was in for 5 years ... really tough time. Big difference between military life and civilian life. Espcially when they station you out of Southern California and pay you only 18,000 dollars a year (family pay).

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BlueCollar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 01:23 PM
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37. Bubbleheads can't hide...:-)
Permission to come aboard...

AMS 2
Patrol Squadron 40
"Fighting Marlins"
1979-1983
NAS Moffett Field
WestPac Tours 79,80,81,82,83
Japan,Korea,Phillipines,Adak and

Dodge...the real fantasy island...
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5thGenDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 01:47 PM
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38. REMF Signal Corpsman here
Communications Center Specialist (military equivalent of a Western Union operator -- 72E20), United States Army Communications Command, Battery Parrott, Fort Monroe, Virginia, 1974-76.
John
Also, my nephew is currently in the USAF at Dover, Delaware. My dad and brother served, my Aunt Anita retired from the USAF after 23 years, my grandpa Bill was in both WWI and II, my great-grandpa Seaman came from Canada to participate in the Spanish-American conflict (got as far as Tampa), g2grandpa Garrett (1stGenDem) was a Confederate soldier captured at Fort Donelson in 1862 by a relative from the other side of the family named US Grant, and I have ancestors on both sides of the revolution as well.
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oneighty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 01:50 PM
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39. Navy
Korea 52..EOD,SWD,DV2, Scuba Diver. Navy eight years.

180
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Twillig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 02:02 PM
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40. Army
88-91

Tanker
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Sabot120 Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 02:16 PM
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43. Cool, I ain't the only "Treadhead". NTXT
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hussar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 03:35 PM
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47. Brit tanker here
1974 - 1979 + 2 tours of duty
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booley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 02:05 PM
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41. In the NAVY!!!!
sorry , don't knwo the rest of the song.

was in San Diego in Coronado ....which being in the Navy is the only way I could afford to live in Coronado;-)

Was a photomate E-3
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 08:37 PM
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54. No kiddin, ain't that a great place?
I used to walk around there and smell all the flowers and fresh tuna and shrip being BBQed in the big houses.
Oh, what a place.
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nykiera Donating Member (332 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 02:17 PM
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44. Army
1980-1984. Reserves off and on after.
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av8rdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 02:46 PM
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46. Proud USAF veteran here...
11 1/2 years

av8rdave
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 04:20 PM
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48. Can only post for family.


My dad's ship, USS Barrow, WWII.

Brother served Persian Gulf War I.

Sister in Army Reserves.

My husband saw his dad board an airplane for Vietnam three times.
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DeaconBlues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 05:06 PM
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50. U. S. Army - 1987 to 1990
I luckily got out just before the first Bush oil war.
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 05:36 PM
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51. US Air Force Security Service
Honorable discharge in '75.

My brother served in the Army, stationed in Germany.

My father served in Italy, in WWII. He was field-commissioned as Warrant Officer. He won the Purple Heart when he and a buddy found themselves in a mine field. His buddy hit the Bouncing Betty and didn't make it. My father carried a chunk of that mine inside him to the day he died.

My Grandfathers both served in WWI.

Is it approaching a family tradition yet?
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 07:11 PM
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52. USAF
Gulf War error - er, era...
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 08:35 PM
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53. US Army
12 years US Army Signals Intelligence. 1982-1994.
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tinnyguy1777 Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 08:40 PM
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56. ARMY Sig corps
1959-1962
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 09:11 PM
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57. Canadian Armed Forces, 1984-1994
North America's favourite defensive-only military force!
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expatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 12:39 AM
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68. HA!!!! We could over run you in a matter of MINUTES!!!!!!!!!!
Edited on Mon Dec-01-03 12:40 AM by expatriot
BLAME CANADA!!!!


</sarcasm and humor>

on edit: sarcasm and humor tag


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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 12:54 AM
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70. Unless we completely infiltrate your hallowed institutions...
...of journalism, professional sports, and entertainment, thereby controling the will of the American People en masse.

But we'd never do that.

Honest.
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Doc_Technical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 10:33 PM
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58. U.S. Air Force 1970-1974
Joined so I wouldn't get drafted.
USAF Hq Europe, Lindsey Air Station, Wiesbaden Germany.
30430(?) Micro-wave radio.
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45th Med Donating Member (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 10:43 PM
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59. US ARMY Medical Command 91B/2F
Brat too. Ansbach American High School Graduate.

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michaelbmoore Donating Member (127 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 11:10 PM
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62. You are welcome to see my ass. . .
US Army,
still in National Guard, 22 years service
Infantry
Airborne/Ranger
Army Flight School, Cobra, then Medivac pilot
now Army PA

Hooah, but more Liberal than you want to know!

--Mike

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haele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 12:10 AM
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63. USN/USNR -
1977 - 1989 / 1989 - 1998

I saw first-hand the results of Graham-Rudman and Dick Cheney in action back in 1986, so let's see what happens when some short-term memory loss chickenshit goes ahead and tries to tell me what Clinton did to the military and how much "better" things are now that the shrub is playing dressup and lying out his ass through the Pentagon brown-nosers that are left...

DSC/FCC (Retired)

Haele
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kaitykaity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 12:20 AM
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64. US Army
Basic and AIT Fort Jackson, SC
Stationed permanent party Heidelberg, West Germany
1982-1985
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expatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 12:36 AM
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66. I went to the mall in November of 1995 to sign up...
I had just turned 19 and was thinking my life sucked and I needed a change and the military would straighten me out... but the recruiting office was closed because of the government budget battle... I changed my mind by the time it reopened. No offense to those who serve, but I thank my lucky stars for that budget battle... the service would not have been for me. But then, again... it may have straightened me out after all....
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happyslug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 12:37 AM
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67. National Guard 1981-1989
Yes, I was fighting the Commies (But only on the weekends). Never activated (Thank God) but served in both Pa National Guard (13B, Artillery) and Texas National Guard (11C Mortar man Infantry).

Since everyone is mentioning relatives:
My Older Brother In the US Navy during Vietnam (Off shore, never saw action).

Two of my sisters were in the US Navy early 1970s (all three Vietnam era veterans, the nearest my sisters came near to Vietnam was Corpus Christi Texas).

My Father served in the US Army 29th Infantry during the Normandy invasion (Wounded and evacuated home and than discharged do to wounds).

Two of his three brothers served (His eldest brother and Brother in Law were working in the Steel Mills and they jobs were viewed as essential for the war effort so were not drafted during WWII)

I have a Cousin in the Marines, but other than him we are all out (Including my one Sister and her Husband. She served 20 years in the Navy Reserves, he served 20 years active Navy. He is now retired).

Except for my cousins (whose politics I do not know) all who served are still good Democrats (or in case of my father's generation died good Democrats).





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imax2268 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 12:46 AM
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69. I say...
a big shout out to all our military brats, Army, Navy, Marines,Air Force, and all you others...thank you...

I did my part for my country but some of you did so much more...many props to you...salute to all of you...!
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