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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 05:39 PM
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A RANT...60's Music on PBS
This weekend PBS is doing fundraisers featuring a concert of 60's music including Judy Collins, the Lovin Spoonful... all of the 60's protest crowd. I have been watching because I love the music. The music, to me, is a reminder of a time when we were idealistic and thought we could change the world. In some ways, we did. We got Johnson not to run again, we raised the world's consciousness about the war in Vietnam. We boycotted grapes and helped to changed the lives of migrant workers...for a time... then we grew up.

We got jobs, had babies, carried mortgages. We got fat, we got prosperous, we got lazy. We forgot. We got selfish.

So I'm sitting here last night, watching this show with tears in my eyes. I'm also looking at the audience. They can't be my age!!! They are looking pretty fat and unhappy...and old and prosperous...and very sad. Why? The answer came to me pretty fast and pretty ugly. Because we blew it. The music is a reminder of the high hopes and aspirations that we had to make a real difference in this world. And we just blew it. No excuses, we just did. And everyone in that audience knew it. Sad, sad, sad. Let's don't let it happen again.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 05:42 PM
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1. Yeah, true, but
Judy Collins still looks pretty damn good and her voice is still fantastic. Enjoyed McGuinns solo too!
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argyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 06:25 PM
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11. Wished I'd heard it.Been a Byrds fan since they came out and have been
fortunate to see them in all their forms,from the original five to Gram Parson's stint with them to the group with with the great guitarist Clarence White.They're hardly a forgotten group;they've gotten their share of accolades but they really deserved even more recognition.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 05:44 PM
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2. Once the proverbial genie gets out, how d'you put him back in?
Is our country and our world worth saving?

It is not a matter of lofty dreamy ideals.

It is a matter of time before fate steps in.

Assuming that there isn't WW III, which will happen should bushatic* (bush is a lunatic) and tommy franks declare the us becomes a military state, the constitution wiped out. (strange how the people elected to uphold the thing are allowed to destroy it...)
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 05:46 PM
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3. Was John singing?
With the Spoonful? His voiced is wasted. He smoked way too much dope and it trashed his voice. He plays in a pretty good jugband now.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 06:58 PM
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14. no, Sebastian wasn't there . . .
and the Spoonful just ain't the Spoonful without him . . . his voice is indeed wasted . . . saw him try to sing at the R&R Hall of Fame induction . . . embarassing, to say the least . . . it's fun watching these old folkies do their thing, but a lot of them have lost their chops . . . Spanky could barely hit the notes on "Sunday Will Never Be The Same" . . .
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 07:03 PM
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15. and...
Without poor Zally, the spoonful will never happen again...sad, I loved that group.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 05:48 PM
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4. yup
You Baby Boomers really dropped the ball.

At least you tried, though.
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 05:54 PM
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6. Dropped the ball?
Nope! the game is rigged. The refs are paid off.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 06:18 PM
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9. tis a poor player
who blames the game.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 05:50 PM
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5. "We got Johnson not to run again"...
and the end result was a good thing?
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argyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 06:18 PM
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8. If not for the assassination of RFK .A pivotal ,low point following so
closely the assassination of MLK.We wind up with Humphrey(who had the rug pulled out from under him at the Paris Peace Talks by none other than Henry Kissinger)vs. Nixon.Nixon had a "secret peace plan" but neglected to tell the American that it included four more years of intense combat,as well as incursions into Laos and Cambodia,and the mining of Haiphong harbor.

I wasn't old enough to vote in that election but I was politically aware.Seeing Bobby bleeding to death on a kitchen floor in Los Angeles took a lot out of many good people and began the realization for many,who didn't already know,that maybe the game was rigged.

The 2004 Election is as pivotal a time as there ever has been in our history.Let's all work our tails off to get Bush out of Al's House and begin to undo the damage that four years of this cabal has wrought.
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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 06:19 PM
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10. No, but we thought so at the time.
We weren't smart enough to predict that Robert Kennedy would be assassinated... are you blaming us for Nixon???
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 06:41 PM
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12. well, obviously I blame some of you for Nixon...
and Reagan and Bush. You boomers may be overpowering (and overbearing), but you're not a single-minded monolith.
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woofless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 07:20 PM
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16. Blame our parents for Nixon,
not us. I can remember many arguments with Dad about that bastard and it wasn't pretty. He finally came around after voting for the Dick 3 times.

(Purposely stifling flame finger.)


Woof
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 07:33 PM
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17. Not me. It's you guys job to blame your parents...
remember?

Honestly, Am I really supposed to believe that NO boomers ever voted for a republican candidate?
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 06:02 PM
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7. GREAT Garrison Keilor line last night...
"we bought tickets to the Simon and Garfunkle concert, and were surprised to see that so many elderly people had become interested in their music"
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 06:43 PM
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13. You mean Paul McCartney was in a band before Wings?
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 07:37 PM
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18. heh, heh
I'm a fan of both Garrison Keilor and Simon and Garfunkle. Does that make me a boomer?
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