Are you a true liberal lady or a so-called one? Can apply to guys too.

[Crazy Dave]

I've always drove smaller, inexpensive cars or trucks because they're cheaper and conserve more energy but before I was married and dating so-called "liberal" women they would always piss and moan about riding in a small car and not wanting to be seen in one.

Bitch about saving the environment all week but party in big cars, SUV's and boats all weekend.

My guess was that in case another woman they knew saw them around town that they wanted to look like they're dating a rich republican.

[Left Is Write]

1. The first time I ever complained about a car...

I was already married to the guy who bought it.

[Crazy Dave]

2. That's allowed

;)

[taterguy]

3. my wife was impressed that I rode a bike everywhere . . .

. . . and didn't even own a car.
Guess I was lucky I found a true liberal. She walks to work :)

[Crazy Dave]

4. I finally found the right one too.

But now when we buy a new "small car", she gets the new one and I get the older one. We actually want to retire one day to a place where we can walk or ride a bike everywhere.

[Ariana Celeste]

6. that's how me and my SO are

we had a car- that his mom bought him years ago thinking it would give him incentive to get a license- lol. our old roommate used it so when he moved out we sold the car since we don't plan to drive for a long time
it shocks everyone- we get a lot of "wow"'s and at the same time get called irresponsible by certain family members- mainly my SO's dad
we're just lucky we got everything we need in our town :)

[Bunny]

5. I don't think that preferring a vehicle with a little more elbow

room disqualifies one from being a "true liberal lady".

[Crazy Dave]

8. Disqualifies everyone no, but an anti-SUV hypocrite yes

The ones who don't want to be seen arriving at an environmental march in a little car or the Barbra Streisand types who don't want anyone driving SUV's except themselves.
To me a car is a car to get me from point A to point B, not a status symbol and not a toy. I've got nothing against SUV's, big cars but I've never bought one just to make me look important or to have more room and horsepower beyond my needs. My Toyota Camry is the largest car I've owned in over 18 years but before that I had the typical larger cars that were built in the late 60's and early 70's.

[Momgonepostal]

26. There's a world of difference between preferring something ...

...and complaining about and claiming not to want to be seen in the alternative. I certainly have automotive preferences, but to complain to a date that his car isn't good enough and that you are embarrassed to be seen in it is rude and tacky, IMO. I don't that is very "lady-like," liberal or otherwise.

[redqueen]

7. grrr

whatever... not worth it

[Blue-Jay]

10. Ahhh, go ahead and do it!

I was wanting to watch this thread and laugh.

[redqueen]

35. Well it's just fucking stupid!

So this guy dates, what... two $%$#@&es with this problem, and all of a sudden it's "women who do this"? What, he did a survey? There was a study? I farkin hate this kind of generalizing stereotyping bullshit soooo much! No matter WHICH sex does it!

[progmom]

36. yes!

:applause:


and, on edit: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x4791786

[redqueen]

38. I so wanted to start that thread.

:evilgrin:

[Crazy Dave]

49. You can hate me RQ but I still love you

:pals:

[redqueen]

50. Oh puh-leez... I don't hate you!

I just think that OP was dumb as all get out. :P

[Blue-Jay]

43. Well ranted, RQ. I knew I could count on you!

:yourock:

[Crazy Dave]

48. What's the matter?

You couldn't come up with any opposing ideas of your own?

[redqueen]

52. He just likes to sit back and watch the fireworks.

;)

[Blue-Jay]

53. Is that a call out, junior?

You want an idea? My idea is that you're an idiot.

[Crazy Dave]

54. Wow! Name calling how mature and educated.

Very idiotic in itself. Maybe you haven't even had a date in a while to be so angry and frustrated like that "junior".

[MissMillie]

9. This liberal lady drives a Toyota Corolla

small car, 35 mpg.

[TallahasseeGrannie]

11. I guess I'm just so-called

because we have a Nissan Armada. It is a family car for four adults and two infants. We sometimes pull a tractor on a trailer with it.

We're all big people, height and weight both. But mainly I don't like the safety records of smaller cars. My son is a paramedic and will only drive a pickup truck. These two babies are the next generation and I want them behind a lot of steel and motor with airbags out the wazoo.

Now, I personally don't drive so I don't have my own car. And we don't do boats. Does that count?

[Crazy Dave]

13. Naw, I'm just going after the hypocrites and I've dated a few

I've never dated a conservative type woman even when I was a republican. Everyone can drive what they want but when "I" say I'm in favor of protecting the environment and conserving energy, "I" walk the walk, not just talk the talk.
Being an environmentalists only when it's convenient or only when bitching about high gas prices is not taking the cause seriously.

[TallahasseeGrannie]

31. Probably my biggest gift to the environment

is the scores of children I yearly work into a fever pitch around Earth Day. I take it very seriously and totally indoctrinate the poor little things and I believe I am creating a mini generation of environmental nazis. But that's okay. I often neglect to recycle, but I can tell you that none of my kids do!

[supernova]

12. I drive a big-ass Chevy conversion van

Big sound system, wall-to-wall carpeting, nice velour seats. It gets about 20 mpg.

It's also 14 years old and paid for. I'll take that over a monthly car note any day.

When it is time for me to get another car, I will get a something like a used Subaru Forrester or a Honda CR-V. Anything that I don't have to borrow money to own.

I am also a liberal. :P

[Crazy Dave]

14. I know you are and glad to see you got the van fixed

Wasn't it giving you trouble a few weeks ago?

[supernova]

20. Yes, it was

But I gave it a week's rest in its favorite garage and it works great now. :thumbsup: :-)

edit: I live in a rural area. Going anywhere: my job, the store, entertainment requires that I drive. No where is within walking distance of my house. I wouldn't want to live that close in anyway. But, I do make sure I consolidate trips as much as possible.

[Misunderestimator]

15. Umm. Maybe they weren't pissing and moaning about the size of the car.

[progmom]

16. .

[Crazy Dave]

17. Naw, that's why I've never had to "compromise" for other "shortcomings"...

inadequacies or insecurities.

And...if you didn't want to ride you got the f*ck out.

[Misunderestimator]

19. I've always found that guys who piss and moan about women who piss

and moan... are... well... never mind.

[LeftyMom]

18. My car's not that small

It's not that big either (it's a Saturn wagon) but the milage is decent (not that I go anywhere,) it's made in America by union labor, I din't have to go into debt to buy it and rather than wasting resources on a new vehicle I bought it used. Liberal enough for me. :)

[politicat]

21. I'd go smaller if what we had wasn't already paid for and efficient.

There's a darling little Mini I've got my eye on, as well as a diesel Jetta.

But alas... what we have is what we have.

And when I was dating, I was usually the one with the car. So I don't care about that. As long as he speaks my dialect of geek, I could care less about his possessions. Or hers for that matter.

[grace0418]

22. We only have two cars because we work in two different

suburbs, otherwise we'd have only one (we did for many years). But I hate planet-mobiles and refuse to ever own one. I feel guilty about our Subaru because it's not as fuel efficient as I'd like, but it was the best compromise between what we needed to have feature-wise (lots of cargo space, good for inclement weather and road trips, safe, reliable) and what we wanted size/efficiency-wise. I make up for it by carpooling with two other coworkers. When my husband and I are going somewhere together we generally drive our little Civic (unless we're buying a lot of groceries or the weather is bad).

If Subaru came out with a hybrid Outback wagon I would be ALL over that. When we need to replace the Civic we'll get a hybrid, but hybrids weren't available at the time.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

23. i dont own/drive...and am liberal enough to think

anyone driving in manhattan had better have a very good reason....we have a wonderful public transportation system

[Crazy Dave]

24. I think you see the point while others don't

Nothing wrong with buying a vehicle within your means, nothing wrong with buying the car you like, etc. But to buy a Hummer, ride in it alone and bitch about high gas prices, ANWR drilling and global warming at the same time makes a person a certified dip-shit.

I see some people up above are getting a little squirmy though. I've insulted nobody personally but I see some who must have an SUV with a yellow ribbon on it getting a little bit pissy.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

27. well my problem with your post is that it only talks about women

being hypocritical ...whereas i know plenty of men who are the same way..


not to many women own boats.

[Crazy Dave]

29. I put "Can apply to guys too" in the title

The reason I started the thread was thinking back on a few personal experiences I had. Like I said, it's mainly for the people who say one thing, then do another and they're easy to spot as they give themselves away so easily ;)

[Misunderestimator]

28. My car gets 28-34 MPG... and is quite small...

and if you're referring to me (and I always love it when people do that passive-aggressive little thing in posts to others)... I only get "squirmy" (though that's definitely not a good word to describe it... LOL) when I read men generalizing about women the way you did in your OP. You don't have to insult people personally to offend people with generalities. :hi:

(I believe I exceeded my allotment for parentheses here.)

[Crazy Dave]

32. I think that you think way too highly of yourself worrying what I post

But that's good having high self-esteem and a great vocabulary.

Nothing wrong with that :hi:

[Misunderestimator]

33. Oh that's lovely. And humorous as hell.

:rofl:

[Bullwinkle925]

25. Totally Liberal here.........

shall I say that my 'first time' was in an MGB GT?





(Can't believe I just said that!!).




:hide:

[Orsino]

30. Small car man here.

My wife and I have to commute separately, so we supplemented a reliable little Paseo with a Maxima, which turned out to be something of a gas guzzler and a maintenance whiner. With those cars becoming twleve and seven years old, it was time to replace them. I got a Prius, and talked my wife into satisfying her V6 sedan desire with a hybrid Accord.

When two tractor-trailers totaled the Accord, my wife walked away without a scratch--so she insisted on another. Good car.

[davsand]

34. The man I married didn't even own a car.

I drove a Ford hatchback with a five speed. Never bothered either one of us much...

Later, after we had Material Girl, we needed more room to haul a child and all the accompanying stuff, so we got a Buick Century (poverty model, I might add!) that was about 12 years old. We drove that car WAY past the point of social embarrassment. Finally, our mechanic told us not to even bring it back--it was too far gone.

We now have two cars, a Ford Escort Wagon that is about 14 years old, and a Buick Century that was just barely made in this century...

Nah. I'm not a car snot. Neither is my husband.



Laura

[gollygee]

37. Why would you date someone who pissed and moaned about a car?

Do you like shallow women?

[progmom]

40. excellent question

:poopcorn:

[Left Is Write]

51. Err....

you just keep that poopcorn to yourself. I'll have the regular popcorn.

[Misunderestimator]

42. LOL!

:thumbsup:

[Crazy Dave]

44. It didn't last long by a mutual agreement and I consider myself fortunate

...that they made getting rid them that much more gratifying. Example, say you started dating a guy and he says he really likes you but says that to continue with the relationship you need to get cosmetic surgery or it's over.
You now have a perfect example of how easy getting rid of a shallow and materialistic person is.

[LaurenG]

39. I have never cared about cars

As long as it has all it's doors windows and a heater I'm OK. I really like a nice sound system though. We have two small cars.

[Burma Jones]

41. I drive a fairly high-end car - Infiniti M45

My wife has a Highlander Hybrid - we will soon have three kids and wanted a third row of seats

I work out of my house, so I don't drive much, I fill up the tank about every other week.....If I had to drive a lot, I probably would pick up one of those Hybrid Camrys

[Susang]

45. My man drives a '96 Ford Aspire

Or Ass Pyre, as we like to call it. So choke on that! :P

Obviously, you cannot make sweeping generalizations about what women do based on two women you've dated, right? Because, if you did that, then we could make sweeping generalizations about the quality of women that you chose to date, if you get my drift. ;-)

[Samurai_Writer]

46. I have a Toyota Tacoma pickup

4 cylinder, 2 wheel drive. Before that I had a VW Jetta. I live way up in the mountains and need my truck just to get to work, shopping and to do laundry in town about 30 minutes away. Since it's 4 cylinder, though, it's not so bad. Although if I was shopping for a new one, I would get one with all wheel drive. Driving a rear-wheel drive pickup on these roads can be scary sometimes, even with studded snow tires and 240 pounds of sand in the back.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

47. Actually, I was embarrassed about dating a guy who drove a big truck

Eventually, I dumped him, partly for that reason, and partly because our attitudes toward life were too different.

Little cars/bicycles/scooters make me think MORE of a liberal gentleman. :-)