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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 08:26 PM
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L. Ron Hubbard: "It was my responsibility that this world got an A-Bomb"
Alt.Religion.Scientology Week in Review 03/18/06

http://ars-week-in-review.blogspot.com/

All though Hubbard was booted from George Washington University for failing grades after only four semesters, it did not stop him from repeatedly lying that he was a nuclear physicist. He was proud of the fact that he was supposedly a student in the alledgedly first class in nuclear physics in an American University, although he flunked all science and math courses he ever took. Here is a collection of Hubbard's claims to have been a nuclear physicist. This listing is almost certainly not exhaustive.

"To some degree, it was my responsibility that this world got itself an atom bomb, because there were only a handful of nuclear physicists in the thirties - only a handful. And we were all beating the desk and saying "How wonderful it will be if we discover atomic fission," because we decided that the thing to do with atomic fission was to go out and discover the stars, to make big passenger liners that would go ten times around the world on the same fuel. This was what we endeavoured to do with atomic fission. The government stepped in and gave us three billion dollars. I had nothing to do with that program; I would *not* have had anything to do with the program. Three billion dollars to destroy all of man."

OEC ("Organization Executive Course") volume 6, April 14, 1961
Hubbard claims to be a nuclear physicist.


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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 08:32 PM
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1. OOOOh! Deary Dear!
:popcorn:
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 08:34 PM
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2. Yeah, but Einstein did more of the actual brainwork...
Why am I saying "more of", Hubbard has fewer brain cells than a shotglass of water!
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 08:36 PM
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3. Hey! Dude made up a religion that made him rich! How many religions have
YOU made up, eh?

Thought so! :P
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eyepaddle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 11:21 PM
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17. Toadism..you've never heard of it?
How is it possible that you've never heard of Toadism? :scratches head in befuddlement:

We'll send you some brochures...:evilgrin:
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 11:49 PM
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21. Eh, some have called me a toady going way back.


What is the central text of Toadism? The Toad Te Ching?
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 08:21 AM
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32. I've made one, yes I have!
Peepology.

:D
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 08:36 PM
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4. And they wonder why they're a joke!
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 08:36 PM
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5. Hubbard is a third-rate hack!
There-I got it out of my system. I want to scream this every time I see any mention of his name or Scientology.
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ChoralScholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 11:58 PM
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23. What was strange is the way they used to market his book...
As a science buff I was always interested in the books because the commercials said

"Dianetics... by L.Ron Hubbard... the owners manual, for the human mind."

I was, like, 15 or something, so I didn't know any better yet.
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 11:59 PM
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24. I remember those crappy Dianetics commercials
quite well. I even purchased a copy at a used bookstore.

The book really sucked.
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 08:36 PM
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6. That picture, by the way, is of Hubbard using an e-meter on tomatoes
He believed that plants could feel pain. :crazy:
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 09:27 PM
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9. Wanna bet those tomaters made OT III?
I wonder how they reacted to the Xenu story?
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 10:08 PM
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12. I know for a fact they're OT VIII!
They've reached enlightenment! They can manipulate their environment and the universe! Space and time bend to their will!

Flamingyouth pointed out that as an OT, Tom Cruise has the ability to manipulate universal laws, and yet has neglected to make himself taller.
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 10:12 PM
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13. ...
:rofl:

good point! You'd think Tom would stretch space/time and make himself 6" taller.

I remember seeing plans somewhere on how to make your own e-meter. It's basically a primitive lie detector that can be assembled for <$50 in parts from your local Radio Shack. And the "church" sells them for many thousands of $$$.

I need to start my OWN religion. I'm sick of being broke.
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 10:38 PM
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14. Yeah, they go for about $2,500
You should see the inside of their manufactory - it looks like the inside of a generic business office.
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 11:34 PM
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20. You left out the best part...
...people are strongly encouraged to buy a "backup" so that if the "primary" fails they won't have to miss an auditing session.

It's true...you can't make this kind of stuff up, folks.

So the price is actually $5,000 when you think about it.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 09:41 AM
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35. Or give himself the ability to come out of the closet
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bumblebee1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 02:25 AM
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30. The only problem is
tomatoes did not jump up and down on Oprah's couch. Tom Cruise did.
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 09:19 PM
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7. He claimed to be a decorated Navy vet too . . . he was in the Navy alright
but was reprimanded for attacking Mexico.

Yes, that's true :)
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eyepaddle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 11:26 PM
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19. Ooohh, that's a great story
Edited on Sun Mar-19-06 11:30 PM by eyepaddle
I haven't looked at that website in awhile, Hubbard also claimed to be a war hero for depth charging some rocks off the Pacific Northwest.

I'll look around for the link.

Technically he WAS decorated, stuff like American Theater of Operations, etc. Nothing like the Navy Cross (I believe it was) that he claims.

Found it!

http://www.xs4all.nl/~kspaink/cos/warhero/medals.htm
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 01:48 PM
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38. Yeah, but they were JAPANESE SPY ROCKS
you forgot that part :P
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 09:26 PM
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8. His ego shows such humility, does it not?
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 09:27 PM
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10. Little too full of himself, there? Aliens in the volcanoes!
Look out for those aliens in the volcanoes!

Redstone
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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 09:37 PM
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11. Now we know why Tom Cruise was bouncing on Oprah's couch.
He's as bat-shit crazy as ol' Hubbard.
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 10:43 PM
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15. Isn't he dead now? Wait... ...ok, Wikipedia says he died January 24, 1986.
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Benfea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 11:08 PM
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16. His books weren't very good either.
Way back when, a friend of mine (no, he wasn't a scientologist) made me read Battlefield Earth. I have a fairly high tolerance for bad sci-fi just because I'm such a fan of the genre, but Battlefield Earth exceeded even my tolerance.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 12:41 AM
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25. DU's own BigMcLargehuge has a great review of the film somewhere
Maybe he'll see this and dredge up the link for ya.
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Benfea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 12:58 AM
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27. The less I know about that film, the better.
I read the book, that was enough. There is absolutely no way a movie based on that book could be anything other than the aesthetic equivalent of raw sewage.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 01:13 AM
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28. I have a perverse love for horribly bad movies
MST3K has pounded it into me, I think.
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Benfea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 01:20 AM
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29. I know people who are similarly afflicted.
Although the show sounded mighty interesting, I'm glad I never watched much of it. ;)
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mikeytherat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 07:03 AM
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31. Best Battlefield Earth review EVER!
(from Mr. Cranky)

Battlefield Earth is one of the worst films ever made. It’s that simple. It’s Plan 9 From Outer Space made for sixty million dollars. Had Ed Wood made Battlefield Earth, people would have expected an apology. When the cultural impact of this fiasco finally sinks in, John Travolta will be lucky if he can get a job plucking the gray hairs out of Ron Palillo’s ass.

Battlefield Earth is based on a novel written by Church of Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard. Perhaps the Church of Scientology wanted to ensure nobody else joined up. This movie is like watching the Pope accidentally catch on fire while giving Easter Mass. If that’s not a time to rethink your spiritual choices, what is?

Discussing the details of the plot is akin to discussing the literary merits of a Nora Roberts novel. I just can’t emphasize enough how bad it all is. It’s such a disaster it may resurrect Lawrence Hilton-Jacobs’s career. He’ll be able to defend himself by saying, “At least I didn’t make Battlefield Earth,” and executives will have to acknowledge that he has a point. Anyway, it’s the year 3000, a thousand years after a race of creatures called the Psychlos has taken over the Earth. Their chief of security is Terl (John Travolta), who wants to use the humans as slaves for his personal gain. Unfortunately, Jonnie Goodboy Tyler (Barry Pepper) has other plans and leads a revolt.

Psychlos are essentially Jamaican Klingons who speak like Ferengi. The primary special effect in the movie is accomplished by filling buckets with dirt and pieces of concrete, then tossing them across the screen. Director Roger Christian has a hard-on for flying dirt like you would not believe. The guys who wrote this should be forced to dictate everything for the rest of their lives so they may never again touch pen to paper or finger to keyboard and declare themselves writers. If Christian can get a job as a Sears portrait photographer after this movie, Congress should make the use of cameras punishable by death. Every single scene is at an angle, which gave me the urge to slide off my chair and smash my skull into the floor. Action scenes look like they were shot inside a paint mixer. If egos were farts, one imagines John Travolta could destroy an entire planet by devouring a single frozen burrito. That this film even got made is clearly one testament to that fact, and that they’re already planning a sequel is another.

mikey_the_rat
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 11:26 PM
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18. And we are continually
amazed that anyone could still support GW Bush.

There's a sucker born every minute and they somehow manage to find their way to folks like Hubbard or if they have never read a Sci-fi novel, GW Bush.

Doesn't matter if they lie or just make things up. Ir somehow they can convince people of their sincerity that's all that matters.

Hubbard is responsible for the A bomb. Never mind the facts.

Bush is responsible for bringing Democracy to the mid east. Never mind the facts.

A sucker is born every minute. And we sure have our share of suckers these days.

Mz Pip
:dem:
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 11:53 PM
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22. All Hail Xenu!!
Hail Xenu!!!
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Random_Australian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 12:55 AM
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26. Hail Xenu? .... indeed. How come no-one says
"All faintly like Xenu" or "All believe, that yes, Xenu may have done some wrong but he wants in his heart ot make it up to you"

OR

Grand Master General Of The Evil Armies Of The Death Lord was giving Xenu his daily Thetan extermination report, and he concluded with "Yesterday, 3 Qur-nang mggfeldibob soldiers were killed"

"Oh no!" Says Xenu "That's terrible!"

His Great Death-Harbinger Command Squad sits nervously, stunned at this display of emotion.

Finally Xenu looks up and says...

"How many is a Qur-nang mggfeldibob?"

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 08:38 AM
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33. Hubbard was nothing more than a world-class confidence man...
He took a few courses in school, and claimed to be a nuclear physicist; he was in the Navy, spent the entire war in the continental US, was reprimanded and stripped of his command after shelling the Mexican coast, and claimed to be a war hero; spent time in the occult scene in Los Angeles in the late '40's, and claimed that Aleister Crowley was a "good friend" of his (despite the fact that he never met Crowley, and, indeed, Crowley was able to discern, just by reading the letters of his disciple Jack Parsons, who Hubbard had suckered into trusting him, that Hubbard was a crook)...even if the beliefs and practices of Scientologists weren't seriously insane, the reverence in which they hold Hubbard, despite the mountains of evidence regarding his true character, is reason enough to discredit them.
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Iniquitous Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 09:30 AM
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34. Delusions of grandeur
Is a sign of mental illness (untreated no less). Nothing wrong with someone who has a mental illness, but I'm not going to base my spiritual beliefs on someone with one. Just sayin'. :shrug:
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Strawman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 10:33 AM
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36. L. Ron Hoover is way cooler
50 bucks please
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mikeytherat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 10:36 AM
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37. Ah, the First Church of Appliantology
Check out the ones from Germany - a lot of the good ones come from there.

mikey_the_rat
PS
Here's your 50 bucks, Mary
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