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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 04:47 PM
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Kucinich.com could this mean the pukes are afraid of the guy
Whatever it is really despicable. I think they fear him honestly. First the college pukes call him an alien now this.
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 04:50 PM
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1. someone put a lot of work into that
too bad he didn't lock up the obvious web addresses
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 05:04 PM
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6. Bush did stuff like that and more
www.bushsucks.com would have brought you to his campaign site. This site really is sick I cant wait for him to gain momentum and win and those fucks would be so mad while I would be smiling.
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stopthegop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 04:51 PM
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2. seems unlikely..
probably whoever is doing this just doesn't like him...he's mostly seen as a spoiler in the Dem ranks...very little chance of his going up against Bush
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bif Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 04:52 PM
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3. What a waste of bandwidth.
n/t
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 04:53 PM
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4. Dennis reminds me of Spiderman
A guy who looks like he gets shoved in lockers by the
other kids, but grows into a guy of strength when
he's fighting injustice.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 05:03 PM
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5. funny you should say that I read that Dennis likes spiderman
I realized had quite a bit in common with him. We both have heart problems and turns out he has the same passion for sports stats after Dennis was diagonsed with his murmur he no longer tried out for sports but counted the stats. Now I am not small like him but I can kinda connect with him in some ways. Also in my research. http://www.house.gov/kucinich/issues/tributes.htm
He tried to honor Ceasar Chavez a big hero to many.
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Runesong Donating Member (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 05:16 PM
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7. -Yawn- Pretty lame.
Republicans just seem to have no talent for satire. I think the problem is they take it a little too personally, and just come off soundling like bitter assholes.
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Runesong Donating Member (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 05:52 PM
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8. I own whocareswhatyouthink.com.. want it?
I just never really did anything with it. I registered it on a whim,I found the subject too depressing and lost steam.

If someone wants to snag the domain name and really ream the president a new corn chute, I would be happy to renew the domain name, and provide web hosting... and/or transfer domain ownership over to you and you can host with me or wherever you want.

Send me a private message w/ your email address. (I am still roadkill here, and can't post or reply to private messages)
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Bossy Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 06:25 PM
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9. Here's the whois info, such as it is
Edited on Mon Jul-28-03 06:34 PM by undisclosedlocation
So far no clues as to who's behind this, apart from the info here which, ya know, I think might be made up. Will add more on edit if I find anything.

If it were me running the Kucinich campaign I'd link to the site as an example of the kind of dirty tricks and lies that are reflexive to the Bushistas and Republicans. It's a shoelace campaign, folks, they can't afford to buy up every domain name that might be used for dis- and misinformation.

Registrant:
MOTLEY, J. (KUCINICH7-DOM)
PO BOX 111033
CLEVELAND, OH 44111
US

Domain Name: KUCINICH.COM

Administrative Contact:
ANYWHERE, ANYONE (FCSHARNHRI) WEBMASTER@KUCINICH.COM
KUCINICH.COM
PO BOX 111033
CLEVELAND, OH 44111
US
216-274-9154 fax: 216-274-9154
Technical Contact:
ANYWHERE, ANYONE (XSMEGEEUAI) WEBMASTER@KUCINICH.COM
KUCINICH.COM
PO BOX 111033
CLEVELAND, OH 44111
US
216-274-9154 fax: 216-274-9154

Edit: Further details I meant to cut and paste but didn't. Note that they've had the domain since 99, not only before Kucinich ran for president but also before anybody even knew he would need to. So presumably these are local Cleveland Republicans who just hate Kucinich. Here's the rest:
Record expires on 07-Dec-2005.
Record created on 07-Dec-1999.
Database last updated on 28-Jul-2003 19:17:27 EDT.

Domain servers in listed order:

NS2.NJD.XO.COM 216.156.2.2
NS3.NJD.XO.COM 216.156.2.3
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 06:43 PM
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11. thanks for the research udl
Hmmm do you think they could be executives in that power company that Kucinich refused to give the power company to?
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Bossy Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 06:46 PM
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12. So far, neither the phone number nor the PO Box get any hits on Google
nor does there appear to be anybody named Motley in the 44111 zip code of Cleveland. Anybody in Cleveland want to try the phone number?
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 06:53 PM
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13. I dont live in Cleveland but I assume he or she works for that company
The power company trying to buy Dennis off when he was mayor of course or it could be a hateful bastard or both of course.
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Bossy Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 07:11 PM
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20. The who, the what
Edited on Mon Jul-28-03 07:27 PM by undisclosedlocation
On his "about us" page, he signs himself John. As Whois named him J. Motley, I searched "John Motley" Cleveland Republican and got this:
http://www.gwu.edu/~action/2004/cands/web0403b.html
It's the same stuff as the "about us" page with some additional details, as well as confirmation of the full name.

If Kucinich is really using www.kucinch.com as the campaign site, they need to change that. Kucinich2004 or Kucinichforpresident or just about anything would be better.

Edit: John D. Motley is a GOP hack in a Cleveland suburb called Strongsville. For further details, run the Google search mentioned two paragraphs up and skip the first couple hits. Or search "John D Motley" and Strongsville and poof, there he is.
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Bossy Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 07:44 PM
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25. Ok, I'll stop now (speaking of having too much time on one's hands)
As he's webmaster for said Strongsville GOP, I WHOISed them too. Oddly, he didn't feel the need to make up PO boxes and phone numbers for that entry. I searched the address he gave and it turned up this outfit, presumably his: http://www.emprize.com/ However, the address has changed; he appears to have lost his lease and moved his operations to his home. Another victim of the dotcom bust. Awwwww.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 07:46 PM
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26. thanks for your research udl
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 06:29 PM
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10. nah, it just someone with too much time on their hands
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 06:53 PM
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14. Despicable
n/t
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 07:00 PM
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15. to say the least
I know but Dar aint it gonna be a suprised for these wankers when we prevail in the end and I dont just nesscary mean Kucinich but beating the right wing overall.
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 07:01 PM
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16. Yah, it will...
And we will. If not in 2004, then in 2008. Once the right-wing imperialistic PNACers screw our country and much of the world (which is pretty much what they have already done) they're doomed.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 07:04 PM
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17. I will pity them actually Dar
We're gonna be the majority some day my friend and we'll know it and god willing the country will know it. I see the promise land its so near but yet so far. Cant wait to see these guys be in tears when Georgie goes down the toilet. I would love if Kucinich got the nomination and won by a landslide.
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 07:06 PM
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18. I would love it, too...
A real progressive candidate in the White House, someone who can actually stand up to some of these corporate imperialists!:9
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 07:08 PM
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19. yep party at my house when we win :)
Kucinich represents everyone so well and hes doing great stuff. He even wanted a holiday for Cesar Chavez who deserves one he should be studied to by kids.
Kucinich a vote for peace, equality, and progress.
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 07:13 PM
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21. He's the best candidate...
Dean's pretty good as well and Kerry's decent, but Kucinich is just the best. His stance on every issue: The Iraq war, abortion, civil rights, civil liberties, health care, corporate exploitation of the poor internationally, you name it: He's the best on all of that.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 07:18 PM
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22. yeah totally man
Thats why I support the guy he is great on everything. I like Dean and Kerry 2nd and 3rd. My politial mentor aka my grandma is going for Kerry thats only because I think she thinks Kucinich has no chance.
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 07:26 PM
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23. Well...
If no one thinks that he has a chance, so no one votes for him, of course he has none! I know at least one person aside from myself distressed with the way our country is going and that have have already announced their support for Kucinich.

He has a chance, if we let him have one.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 07:32 PM
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24. yes I know thats the shame about him
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