Life according to a Freeper

[fallow]

From FR, see below. My wife sent this to me last night, anyone have the original post that started this?
He or she was talking about liberals (how we think of course) on the tax issue but went off on this new thread, Ive left out the first part with all the explitives so this thread wont get pulled like it did on FR) And which one of you were lurking on FR and baited this guy?? LOL He seems to be stuck on some strange fish analogy. Does it make any sense to anyone

<<




...they dont abide by their own laws. Since they claim to be so caring, so human in their actions, lets take a look at how they violate the natural law.

Liberal philosophy and politics violate the human condition. Humans are at their best (most happy, most productive, and healthiest physically and emotionally) when they are faced with challenge that they work to overcome. Handouts are in violation of that. As the saying goes, give a man a fish and you will feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you will feed him for life.... something like that.

Humans, like any other animal, must have adversity to overcome in order to truly realize their full potential. And especially humans, because we have superior intellect, must have goals beyond securing our daily needs. We need to dream our future and struggle to make it happen. Success is not merely financial, success must be defined by the individual and goverment cannot make that success happen, it must be acheived by the individual. All government can do is get out of the way. Money is NOT at the root of success, it is a byproduct of human success and productivity. As you have heard, money cant buy happiness but happiness through success produces money. Handouts dont!

Liberals struggle and legislate to ease the adversities we face; conservatives embrace and meet head on the adversities they face. Liberals make slaves of the poor and otherwise challenged. From welfare to healthcare to taxes, liberals attempt to moderate the struggle we humans face by taking from the producers and giving to the non producers. This has 3 effects. First, it makes the producers unwilling (in some cases unable) to continue to be productive. Why should they continue to struggle to be successful if most of what they earn is taken from them? What motivates them to go the extra mile if all they work for is taken from them? Nothing! Second, it makes the non producers feel worthless. Why try to better oneself if government will provide for you? Why work sooo hard, as truly successful people do? Goverment is there with a handout ready for you, why not sit back and take it? The only cost is self respect, happiness, and the future economic viability of our country, who cares....right? Third, it compromises the economic stability of this country. Punishing the producers with the highest tax rates will invariably result in a loss of investment, slower economic growth, and fewer dollars in the federal coffers. Alas, tax cuts actually are beneficial to everyone!

Human beings are at their best when they have a shot at acheiving a success that THEY define, not the government. If all of their hard work is reduced to nothing via taxes or other social engineering, redistribution efforts etc, why continue to be productive? It didnt work in the Soviet Union, it will never work. Communism is dead and liberalism is simply a watered down or excuse laden version of communism. It violates our nature, it replaces true happiness with satisfying our immediate needs, and it is a FAILED experiment. The reason socialism/communism and eventually liberalism fails is because it does not recognize what we as humans need... to make our own way in life. Ever put in a hard day of physical labor? How did you feel when you were done? Proud, thats how I feel. Adults must recognize that they are adults, not children, and accept that adversity and responsibility for our own needs is upon all of us, some just choose to overcome it. Other choose to legislate it away in a feigned attempt at empathy and to curry favor, and votes, with a handful of non producers.

Liberal philosophy is not good for the soul, spirit, whatever you call it. Although we have the opportunity and duty to help those who cannot help themselves, how we help them truly defines liberal vs conservative philosophy. Give him a fish today and.... you better have alot of fish for the future. Teach him to fish and.... you will have created another producer that can also offer a helping hand to someone in a time of need. That is compassionate conservatism.


>>

If anyone else saw this or who posted this please add appropriate recognition (grin). If you have the rest of the thread, please post the link, it should insightful to say the least.

[7th_Sephiroth]

1. so its basically

screw em unless they have money

[RandomKoolzip]

2. Sadly, I don't think it's a parody.

I've heard a lot of conservatives mouth the same bullshit. Of course, none of them actualy ever DID overcome adversity to become wealthy- they were all trust fund kids or had inherited some wealth, or pulled strings to get where they were.

That whole "teach a man to fish" thing is such bullshit. How the fuck am I gonna catch those fish when you've drained the pond of all the water?

[felonious thunk]

3. My interpretation of conservative life:

They fuck sheep.

[mdmc]

5. your born

you fuck some people, you die.
The Conservative life.
But when you die, and your "life flashes in front of your face", all that is required of you is to list how you have helped mankind. Heal, teach, and make peace. Responding to St. Peter, "I made all sorts of chicks and cash" won't get you far.

[felonious thunk]

10. Sure it will, because they go to church every week

See, that's how it's ok. Fuck your fellow man in any way you can, but go to church once a week, have some brownies and coffee with like minded (white) people, and then proceed to commense the general fucking of everyone again on Monday. The life of the freeper.

[yolatengo]

4. butts against

Their philosophy that includes greed and tribalism.

How do you get someone to work if they know that no matter
HOW hard they work, someone will say either "I owe you nearly
NOTHING, your hard work really had little value to me (haha)"
or "you can work as hard as you like, you can show everyone in
the world your intelligence, skill, ability, but I just don't LIKE
you and refuse to give you ANY chance whatsoever".

Good conservative philosophy and good liberal philosophy
know that we are not all alike. The 'solution' is a proper
(debatable) mix of 'incentive' and 'prevention' we as a
society have an obligation to provide.

This essay also contains strawmen; how many liberals REALLY
want to take everything from 'providers' and hand all of it
over to (lazy, unproductive) 'others'? Does ANYONE besides
revolutionary leaders (at least until they actually GET power
themselves) preach this?

In the fish analogy, the Freeper wants to make sure no one
but them can afford a fishing rod, no one but them can afford
a teacher to learn to fish, no one but them live near any place
that even HAS fish, and wants the rules to allow them better
access to the fishing than anyone else. THEN they want to
complain when others even ATTEMPT to try to fish.

Bigby

[quarbis]

6. Too bad this idiot

believes that crap -- he really expects the rich to let him get rich??
The deck is so stacked that noone will reach the heights he attains to any other way than if they help me. Ahh their philosophy precludes that -- darn he should rethink is premise because it is false.
Hell will freeze over and the Cubs and RedSox will win a World Series before he ever breaks even.

[fallow]

7. well it didnt play to well....

on FR so he must have had a bad day lol.... I just wish I could post some of these comments in response.

[southerngirlwriter]

8. Welcome to Free Republic, where the men are men

and the sheep are scared.

[drscm]

9. So, in the light of another thread, this person must be a pagan. eom

S/he doesn't care about the poor.

[devinsgram]

11. So what about

someone who worked hard all their life and then when they reached their forties and came down with a dreaded disease so they couldn't no longer work, no longer has insurance and used all their savings to help them survive, doesn't deserve any help? Is this what they are saying? If it is then I hope it happens to them so they will understand how stupid they really are.