Lost Son of Krypton: Do you plan to see "Superman Returns"?

[Radio_Lady]

(EDITOR'S NOTE: THE MOVIE "Superman Returns" OPENS ON JUNE 28th)



by Mike Russell
(Film reviewer in Portland, Oregon)

Screenwriters Dan Harris and Michael Dougherty worked 24/7 to help Bryan Singer resurrect the Man of Steel, pitting Superman against his mightiest foe: roiling angst!

Superman’s return to the big screen is one of the most convoluted — and expensive — development stories in Hollywood history.

After 1987’s “Superman IV: The Quest for Peace” cold-cocked the franchise that Richard Donner launched so reverently in 1978, the Man of Steel went into a 17-year development coma.

The behind-the-scenes saga is long, silly and mind-bogglingly pricey.

• There were abortive drafts (including a few by “Clerks” writer-director Kevin Smith) that tried to adapt the 1993 “Death of Superman” comic-book storyline, with producer Jon Peters allegedly suggesting the inclusion of giant spiders and/or computerized archvillain Brainiac fighting polar bears at the Fortress of Solitude.

• Tim Burton (“Batman,” “Planet of the Apes”) subsequently developed a version that reportedly jettisoned both the classic costume and Superman’s ability to fly, with Nicolas Cage donning whatever replaced the cape and tights.
• Wolfgang Peterson (“The Perfect Storm”) developed a “Batman vs. Superman” film.

• McG (“Charlie’s Angels”) and Brett Ratner (“Rush Hour”) were at different times attached to direct a controversial script by J.J. Abrams (TV’s “Alias”) that completely re-invented the Superman mythos against the backdrop of an interstellar war.

Enter director Bryan Singer — and Michael Dougherty and Dan Harris.

Dougherty and Harris had some experience with chaotic superhero franchises: They cut their teeth as a screenwriting team on the set of “X2” — working around the clock to help director Singer find a third act mid-shoot.

MORE AT: http://www.infocusmag.com/06june/supermanuncut.htm

[Swede]

1. I am not sure yet.

The trailers look good.

[Radio_Lady]

2. What will tip you one way or the other?

[Swede]

4. Not sure what will tip it for me.

What does Ebert have to say?

[Radio_Lady]

6. Sadly, Roger Ebert is undergoing cancer treatment for the fourth time.

Here's the link:

http://www.suntimes.com/output/business/cst-fin-feder01.html

He has been through a lot. Personally, I wish him God speed to health. I had an oral surgeon who eventually died from cancer of the parotid glands. It's never good when it gets into your head -- might even affect your brain in the last stages.

[Kire]

125. He still had an email with all of the releases sent out today.

Doesn't Superman come out next Tuesday? I thought I heard the 28th. Looking at the calendar, it says Wednesday. Is that the start of the REALLY long 4th of July weekend? It would fit. Indendence Day. America. Truth, Justice and all that.

So Ebert should have a review sent out the day before the release.

In your article, he says: ""I'll continue to function as a film critic during this time."

There's your answer.

[WCGreen]

3. I'm there....

If it's half as god as Batman Returns....

I'll be happy....

[scoey1953]

5. I don't know...he looks kinda nerdy to be Superman...

I don't know he looks kinda nerdy to be Superman...
I wonder why they didn't use the guy from Lois and Clark?

Dean Cain? Didn't all the women swoon over this guy when he was on TV?

[WCGreen]

7. He has put on a few pounds and beside that....

He really couldn't act all that well......

[Radio_Lady]

10. I think they wanted an unknown -- and they have it in Brandon Routh.

Brandon Routh

Date of birth (location)
9 October 1979
Des Moines, Iowa, USA

Mini biography
Routh, pronounced like "south", was born in Des Moines, Iowa and grew up in nearby Norwalk... (show more)

Sometimes Credited As:
B.J. Routh / B.J Routh / Brandon 'B.J.' Routh


http://www.us.imdb.com/name/nm0746125/

[Radio_Lady]

9. Agree with you on that, WC! "Batman Returns" was excellent!

"Superman Returns" is being billed as "the best movie of the summer" -- we'll see!

[Cannikin]

69. Did you mean Batman Begins?

[Radio_Lady]

72. Sorry... I typed too fast and did mean "Batman Begins" ---

Mixed it up with "Superman Returns" -- oops!

[Cannikin]

76. I loved it (Batman Begins)

[Radio_Lady]

81. Me too. I saw it in a hotel room at my husband's urging.

I really enjoyed it!

[Neoma]

8. That suit is blinding me.

[Radio_Lady]

11. Is this one better -- or worse? (PHOTO)

[Neoma]

12. Better.

[Radio_Lady]

13. Thanks. Do you plan to see the movie?

[Neoma]

14. Nope.

[Radio_Lady]

83. Early and unauthorized reviews are astoundingly good at

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/superman_returns/

Film reviews were SUPPOSED to be embargoed until the film actually opens, which is Wednesday, June 28th.

Clearly, there are print and internet reviewers who are breaking the embargo for whatever reasons.

[Bucky]

38. This is the Superman outfit I wanna see

I get the feeling this new Superman movie is gonna dud out. The more they change the superheroes from the comics, the bigger they flop.

[Bucky]

40. No wait. THIS is the superhero movie I wanna see.

[Bucky]

41. I take it all back. Here is the ultimate Superman casting: Harvey Keitel

or Don Knotts

[Radio_Lady]

48. In what movie was Keitel NEKKID? I keep forgetting the name of it.

[Bucky]

75. The Piano: foreign film w/no car chase scenes. I didn't see it, of course.

Holly Hunter was in it too, but didn't talk. So again, what would be the point?

[Radio_Lady]

79. Appreciate the information. I remember it, but just vaguely.

[Cannikin]

128. Me too. Superman is just my type! lol

[libnnc]

52. heavens to betsy that boy's got a cute package...

and I'm a lesbian!

just say'n...:shrug:

[Radio_Lady]

57. Yes, it is cute. Unwrap it only if REALLY want to!

Here's one of the ways that Michaelangelo saw it unwrapped.



I love to look at beautiful women, and I'm heterosexual!

[Cannikin]

71. oh dear

[Radio_Lady]

84. That was an off-the-cuff and doff-the-clothing response.

I hope I didn't offend anyone.

[Broken_Hero]

15. Yep

I will be there opening night, and probably that friday, and sunday as well...I have been waiting for another superman for a long time, and seeing Neo fly around in Matrix II and III, just gave me the shivers, knowing if they can make Neo do all that, just what could they do with Superman...:)

I hope Singer, Routh, Bosworth, and Spacey deliver...the running time, i believe is just over two and a half hours....:)

[Radio_Lady]

25. The studios are cutting back on previewing for reviewers.

This Saturday, I was expecting to see "Garfield: A Tale of Two Kitties" with my grandson. But I've been told only print reviewers are invited.

I'll have to wait until the week previous to opening on 6/28 to see if I am invited.

In peace,

Radio_Lady

[AmyDeLune]

16. I pretty much have to-

I work at a comic shop.:D
If I don't see it opening week I'll have customers who want to tell me about "just this one scene, it won't spoil anything, really!":eyes:

It looks promising, though like "Batman Begins" I am avoiding as much of the hype as possible so I'm not sick of it before I've even seen it.

[Radio_Lady]

26. Good point. I've seen the trailer umpteen times now, Amy.

One of the cutest things is the kid telling Spacey, "You're bald."

That's exactly what my grandson says to my husband! It's pretty funny in its context!

Grandma and Grandpa in Florida


Solomon the Wise(cracker) (age 5)

[RebelOne]

17. Might see it when it comes out on DVD.

But I don't have that much interest in the movie right now.

[Radio_Lady]

27. Lots of people will make that decision, RebelOne.

I respect it.

[tjdee]

18. I've always found Superman to be a punk, which is weird because

he's got more powers than Batman, which I liked, who has no superpowers of his own, and Spiderman, who I love.

I dunno.

And this Superman is prettier and sanitarier than Lois Lane, which disturbs me. I'll probably catch it on dvd.

[Radio_Lady]

60. Opens on Wednesday, June 28th, backed up from June 30th

Warners made that decision after they posted this on Broadway in May!

[peekaloo]

19. I like Kevin Spacey when he's cast as a villain, so yes, I'll probably go.

:-)

[libnnc]

50. my thought too-- Kevin Spacey seals it for me

I'll give it a try.

But I'll always miss Christopher :cry:

[Radio_Lady]

61. Spacey has his head shaved as Lex Luthor --

I'm kind of partial to shaved heads, since my guy shaved his in the 1980s!

[Bassic]

20. Let me think about it, HELL YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Radio_Lady]

46. Go for it, Bassic! I'll see ya at the movies!

[AmandaRuth]

127. I am so with you on this

Helllllllllllllll yesssssssss

[YankeyMCC]

21. I'm planning on going

I was never a big comic guy but so far I'm enjoying most of these comic inspired movies and this one sounds pretty good to me.

[Radio_Lady]

59. Who can forget, "It's a bird, it's a plane... it's SUPERMAN!"

An icon of my youth.

[Deja Q]

22. Good trailer, but

The red is too dark, blue too saturated... and RUBBER?!

[Radio_Lady]

85. Yes, you're right. The red is magenta or cranberry and very toned down.

That would be compared to the comic books.

Frankly, I don't remember enough about Richard Donner's original movie to discuss the colors.

[Radio_Lady]

86. For REAL Superman fans, here's a cool web site:

http://www.supermanhomepage.com/news.php

There's a countdown clock until the movie opens on the splash page!

[bigwillq]

23. The trailer I saw

didn't make it look so good but I will probably see it anyway.

[Radio_Lady]

45. Check out the trailer again -- there are several versions of it.

Poster is incorrect; opening date has been moved up to June 28th!

[kay1864]

24. I'll probably see it, but...

why in the world did they have to mess with the costume??

The "S" is too small, the cape looks like Naugahyde instead of (Kryptonian) cloth, and it's blue and red, dammit, not blue and maroon!

/geek rant

[Radio_Lady]

58. The costume materials change with the years. Before spandex,

here's George Reeves, with outright wrinkles under his arms!

[dysfunctional press]

28. no.

not interested.
i'll wait for the dvd, and make a bootleg for my collection, of course.

[Radio_Lady]

87. When do you think the film will move to DVD?

One reviewer says the movie will be gone by August 1st, buried by the Pirates of the Caribbean sequel.

Just sayin' --

[swimboy]

29. I certainly will.

I wish I could see it with a group from DU. Instead we will all be talking about it afterward!

[Radio_Lady]

36. I'd love to see it with you, too, Swimboy. But you're in Virginia and

I'm in Oregon. At least we have a way of meeting here to discuss this film!

In peace,

Radio_Lady

[Sequoia]

30. Possibly. That blue is beautiful.

And he's hot. When I was in 4th grade I was in love with Superman and drew pictures of us together and dropped choir practice so I could go home and watch it. I really liked how the team worked together and how Perry White would get all flustered when Jimmy Olsen called him Chief. Yes, I wanted to work in a newsroom and all that. Superman over Batman anyday.

[Radio_Lady]

82. The blue is quite beautiful, and now that I've seen the film --

I can't discuss it until Wednesday, June 28th. Stay tuned.

[Orsino]

31. Not much interested in Underoo-type superhero flicks...

...unless Tim Burton kicks off the franchise.

[Radio_Lady]

88. Tim Burton? I really love his work. Did you see "Corpse Bride"?

If so, did you like it?

[maxsolomon]

32. Dr. Strange! Iron Man!

i TIRE of the Ubermensch - absent kryptonite & its variants, he can do anything. yawn. marvel characters are flawed, limited. much more interesting.

[TK421]

33. I think they are working on a new Dr. Strange...its scheduled for next

September, I think. Really excited about that one

[maxsolomon]

34. please don't be as bad as Daredevil

those were my favorites as a teen - i'd hate to see both desecrated.

[xmas74]

113. Daredevil was my dad's favorite growing up.

He was so excited when the movie was released until he actually watched it. Then he just got pissed off.

[TK421]

35. Daredevil was boring as hell...and not being able to stand Ben

Affleck didn't help the experience

[Radio_Lady]

44. No one in our family saw "Daredevil." I guess we didn't miss much.

[Radio_Lady]

80. Correction: Husband and son-in-law saw it and said it was JUST OK.

[Mad_Dem_X]

37. Only because Kevin Spacey is in it

as Lex Luthor. He does evil so very well.

[Radio_Lady]

42. Kevin Spacey is a good all-around actor, IMHO.

However, I agree that he's best as EVIL!

[Placebo]

39. Can't wait.

I'm all for hot men in skin tight outfits running around on screen.

Plus, Super Heroes are cool! :patriot:

[Radio_Lady]

43. Me neither! Men in tights! Hooray!

[Radio_Lady]

47. UPDATE: My press preview pass came in the mail today! Hooray!

Unfortunately, there are no guests allowed by Warner Brothers, so I'll be seeing it without my husband on Thursday morning -- there should be many other members of the Portland press there.

We've also been warned that our reviews are EMBARGOED (held) on radio, TV and print -- until opening day, Wednesday, June 28, 2006.

Back at you next week with a review!

In peace,

Radio_Lady in Oregon

[bigwillq]

49. I will wait to hear some of the reviews

not from critics but from people who actually went to the movie.
I have to admit that I don't think the trailer looks that good.

[Radio_Lady]

54. Some "user comments" are already up at:

http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0348150/usercomments

[Radio_Lady]

91. In a touching tribute, the movie is dedicated to both Christopher Reeve,

as well as his wife, Dana Reeve, both now deceased.

[Wetzelbill]

51. when it comes out on DVD

:)

[Radio_Lady]

55. Yup. Your decision works for me...

[NNadir]

53. No. I'm not interested.

[Radio_Lady]

56. NNadir, you must be very intelligent if your "hobby" is --

nuclear physics. Whoa!

Just curious: What do you do for entertainment?

If you went to the movie, would you be inclined to see the improbability of the whole thing at its core? (Or you just don't like theater popcorn? :sarcasm:)

Most of us kind of grew up on comic books -- don't know how old you are, or what your profession is -- but there are those who see too deep and too much to find this sort of thing entertaining.

[Derailer]

62. He said he wasn't interested in a movie

[NNadir]

66. I don't know that it's any depth on my part.

I read Superman comics as a kid, too.

I like some movies, many of which aren't particularly deep and some which are not very realistic.

One of my favorite movies is "Groundhog Day." It was funny, witty and original.

Hollywood it seems to me, continually rehashes and remakes movies. It's a constant feast of self-imitation and after a while it's boring. Do we really need five or six Superman movies?

Generally, I don't like adventure movies or superhero movies. It's not a matter of special intelligence - I'm one of those people who is merely bright enough to undertand how unintelligent I really am. It's just a matter of personal taste that makes me not want to see Superman.

I will confess that I hated the movie "Titanic" though, on the grounds that it completely ignored the heat capacity of water. It would have been better if Kate Winslet and Leonardo DiCaprio had died of hypothermia inside the ship, while swimming around in the flooded hull. I estimate that they should have lasted about 2 or 3 minutes before dying. But that impression had more to do with the fact that they were marketing the movie as "realistic," and "true to history." I recall they made a big deal about spenting an extra brazillion dollars to refilm the sinking because the props were turning. If you're going to make that claim, Winslet dies of hypothermia.

Mostly, these days, when I see a movie, it's a kids movie. I've seen many of the Pokemon movies...sigh.

The things I enjoy, that entertain me, are playing with my kids, talking with my wife, reading nuclear engineering texts, and reading history, more or less in that order. I also feel really fortunate when I have time to ride my bike.

[Radio_Lady]

67. Hi, NNadir -- You sound like a wonderful guy, really.

A man who really plays with his kids can be a rarity. Many men just don't have the time or inclination to do it! Some of the most fun I had with my children years ago was playing card games (or other games) with them, or taking them swimming -- my favorite thing!

It's true about movies -- a lot of the same themes come up again and again. "Groundhog Day" was a wonderful movie and we've seen it a couple of times.

Talking with your spouse? That is so very important, that you talk together for your whole married lives. Try to keep that capacity to exchange ideas with your spouse when you get older -- I like to find new topics and try not become an "old bore"! My husband and I have been talking together for 34 years -- sometimes I do hear the same thing over again, but I try to pretend as if I'm hearing it for the first time.

Bike riding? I used to ride my bike all over Manhattan -- to work, mostly, and then home to our apartment.

Thanks for your response. It was a pleasure to hear from you.

Warm regards -- on this last day of spring -- almost the first day of summer,...

PS. You may not have seen the movie "Flight Plan" -- but the idea was a little girl was kidnapped on an airplane and placed somewhere in the storage area where there would not have been any pressurization or heat. Of course, she is found alive and saved. Even with the somewhat limited scientific knowledge that I have, this irrational point of the movie was unacceptable to me and I rejected the whole film as well. "Suspension of disbelief" is critical to viewing and understanding most movies; of course, the superhero and action movies make their own rules, but people can see right through most of these concepts. You must know that Hollywood makes a majority of movies for young single males ages 18 to 35, the main target audience.

Radio_Lady

[RFKHumphreyObama]

63. Won't make an active effort to see it

But if other family members or friends are going to see it, I may join in. I loved Superman as a kid but somehow I'm not too enthusiastic about the remake. But I've got nothing against it so it's just something that I will not be actively pursuing

[Radio_Lady]

89. If you happen to see it, let us know what you think.

Saw it on 6/22 in a press preview, and I'll probably go again in the next few weeks, since my husband was not invited to the preview.

[Nevernose]

64. Hell, yes! It's the metaphor of Superman I love.

That a man may be something more than he seems, that a man may be more complex than expected, and that the Gods and Stories of Old are still real.

This movie may, admittedly, completely suck -- but I'm willing to give it a chance. Superman's a good metaphor, when written well, and one that becomes increasingly relevant as modern society continues its downward path.

Here's hoping for the best...

[Dr Fate]

110. Well said- Supes is my favortie funny-book God. n/t

n/t

[bedazzled]

65. don't think so - i hate seeing ads for it on every item in the market

and the fellow who's playing superman doesn't appeal to me. he's cute, alright, but in the pictures his eyes seem kind
of dead. there's no humor or life in them. he looks really serious, and i think that kind of role requires a sense of humor.

they'll never replace christopher reeve - you could tell he had a big heart

i might end up being dragged to it by my son, but i hope not

[terrya]

68. Actually, I think I will.

1) Brandon Routh in tights. :-)

2) Kevin Spacey as Lex Luthor. Good casting.

3) Bryan Singer is a good director.

[Cannikin]

70. 11 new Superman Returns clips (major spoilers)!!!

http://www.iesb.net/warnerbros2006/061306.php

[Radio_Lady]

73. Thanks, Cannikin. I'll be at the Portland preview for the press on --

Thursday. Should be interesting -- Appreciate your post tonight!

In peace,

Radio_Lady

[Radio_Lady]

74. HEY THIS THREAD IS ON FIRE! I hope it's nothing personal...

like the last one about... well, you know.





Let's not get it locked until the movie opens, OK? That will look really bad in my journal. I notice the Crisis Papers and other really excellent journals never have locked threads -- Like Nance Greggs, Skinner, and many others.

[terrya]

77. Newsweek's critic, David Ansen, gave it a glowing review

in this week's Newsweek. He liked it quite a bit. It's the first review I've seen of it.

[Radio_Lady]

78. Warner Bros. preview invitation advises us to HOLD REVIEWS

until opening day (June 28th) or else the reviewer will not receive further invitations.

I guess some people don't care or weren't advised.

Terrya, thanks for the "heads-up"! And for other reviewers who break the imposed embargo:

[Radio_Lady]

90. UPDATE: Friday, June 23rd. There are several national reviews on

the Internet now. I really don't understand how Warner Bros. is going to react to these early reviews. In Portland, we've been warned NOT to post anything until 6/28/06.

[LibertyLover]

92. Will have to wait for DVD

I wouldn't mind seeing it at the theater but we have a kidlet and no babysitters, so we can't. My daughter is 4 and just would not do well in a theater yet, so we won't inflict her on other moviegoers, it would be neither fair nor nice on our part. From what I've seen and read though, it looks like an interesting movie.

[Radio_Lady]

111. I sympathize with you. There are whole gaps in my movie-going,

too, when I was a young mother with small children.

That was back in 1968 (pregnant and then Linda was born), 1969 (we moved and David was born), 1970 (husband told me he didn't love me anymore, I split with the kids and lived alone in Hendersonville, NC most of the year), 1971 (finally divorced and working nights and days) and part of 1972 (working on a politically oriented radio show).

My head was in a fog of diapers most of the time. You'll be back to moviegoing soon.

Incidentally, we have movie theaters here in Portland, Oregon, with "cry baby" rooms -- do you know what they are? Kind of interesting for young parents, I would think.

Here's a discussion of "babies at the movies" -- interesting stuff!

http://www.bloggingbaby.com/2005/11/18/babies-at-the-movies-is-it-ever-okay/

[Touchdown]

93. Who is this Superman?

...Come Superman. If you dare. Kneel before Zod! ZOD!

[Radio_Lady]

98. A-HA! That's a very young and handsome Terence Stamp!

http://www.georgettesworld.com/main/gheb7.html

[Taverner]

94. If the studio had balls, they would have made "Red Son"

[Radio_Lady]

99. Superman as reimagined by Mark Millar in his 2004 book...

ON EDIT: VERRRRRY INTERESTING! Thanks for the graphic and your message.

http://www.powells.com/cgi-bin/biblio?inkey=65-1401201911-2

Publisher Comments:

In the intriguing SUPERMAN: RED SON, the classic myth of the Man of Steel is reimagined and reinvented as the infamous rocket ship crash-lands in the fields of the Ukraine. Raised in Russia, Superman grows to become the Soviet Union's greatest weapon as the world is transformed into a communist state opposed only by the crumbling capitalistic America and its President Lex Luthor. Now as Superman stands on the brink of ultimate power, three heroes, Batman, Wonder Woman, and Green Lantern, each make a valiant stand to destroy the reign of the Man of Steel.

Synopsis:
The classic myth of the Man of Steel is re-imagined and reinvented as the infamous rocket ship crash-lands in the fields of the Ukraine. Raised in Russia, Superman grows to become the Soviet Union's greatest weapon as the world is transformed into a communist state opposed only by the crumbling capitalistic America and its President, Lex Luthor.

Product Details
ISBN:1401201911
Subtitle:Red Son
Author:Johnson, Dave
Author:Plunkett, Kilian
Publisher:DC Comics
Subject:Graphic Novels - General
Subject:Comic strips, books, etc
Subject:Superman
Series Volume:108-217
Publication Date:February 2004
Binding:Paperback
Language:English
Illustrations:, Y
Pages:160
Dimensions:10.19x6.63x.35 in. .57 lbs.

[Kire]

95. That is one long article.

I don't think anybody has that much time to read it all.

Anyway, I will be seeing the film.

[Radio_Lady]

100. Sorry, Kire. There WAS a LOT of detail in the original article.

Thanks for sticking with it. Mike Russell, the movie reviewer who wrote it, is into comics in a big way. You can read more on his blog site at:

http://homepage.mac.com/merussell/iblog/B835531044/

I'd be interested in your response once you've seen the movie.

In peace,

Radio_Lady

[Kire]

124. "I can read MORE"?

Oh wonderful.

JK, I'll bookmark it and tackle it in pieces.

You should post this in the Comic Book forum. I wrote the mission statement.

[mvd]

96. Probably on video

It's been a while since a Superman movie.

[Radio_Lady]

114. Yes, it has. This movie does try to bring the various pieces together

for a new generation. It will be fascinating to read viewers' comments after next Wednesday....

[scarlet_owl]

97. I'm not going to, but my husband can't wait to see it.

[Radio_Lady]

115. Do you do this often -- that is, does he go to movies without you a lot?

[Dukkha]

101. already have my midnight premiere tix

this will be my 16th midnight premiere movie too.

[Radio_Lady]

107. Holy Gee Willikers, Kemosabe! Can you list ALL 16 if you remember them?

I can't recall what I did yesterday sometimes.

[Dukkha]

129. the 16 are

Lord of the Rings movies
Star Wars prequels
X2 & X3
Matrix Reloaded
The Village
Spderman 2
Batman Begins
Harry Potter & The Goblet of Fire
The Chronicles of Narnia
King Kong
Superman Returns

then next week #17 Pirates of the Carribean 2

[Radio_Lady]

130. Hi Neo! Wow, you are a BIG FILM fan! I will be seeing "Pirates"

next week, too.

Just a few more days until SUPERMAN RETURNS...

Have a great summer day!

In peace,

Radio_Lady

[Cannikin]

102. I envy you. All I have are my ten minutes of clips.

My favorite is when he flies up the elevator.

[Radio_Lady]

131. Movie reviewing has its highs and lows, Cannikin.

I've been doing it off and on for 35 years.

Besides all the good movies, we get to see a lot of real crap...
But at least we don't have to pay for the crap.

[Radio_Lady]

103. Who wins? -- Batman vs. Superman?

DUer petersond posted this in another thread, with parody credits to:

www.passfailstudios.com



On edit:

I had never heard the word "retcon" before today.

Here's the scoop on it:

retcon: /ret´kon/


1. n. The common situation in pulp fiction (esp. comics or soap operas) where a new story ‘reveals’ things about events in previous stories, usually leaving the ‘facts’ the same (thus preserving continuity) while completely changing their interpretation. For example, revealing that a whole season of Dallas was a dream was a retcon.

2. vt. To write such a story about a character or fictitious object. “Byrne has retconned Superman's cape so that it is no longer unbreakable.” “Marvelman's old adventures were retconned into synthetic dreams.” “Swamp Thing was retconned from a transformed person into a sentient vegetable.”



<1993 update: some comics fans on the net now claim that retcon was independently in use in comics fandom before rec.arts.comics, and have citations from around 1981. In lexicography, nothing is ever simple. —ESR>

[Broken_Hero]

105. buahahahahahaha!

yeah, nice post, I have to admit...:)

on edit: not to make fun of batman, he is my second fave, but the Last Son of Krypton is my ...number 1 ...;)

[Broken_Hero]

104. I can't wait!!!!

all ready got my tickets for tuesday night...man, oh man...:) I feel like a little punk kid again!...;)

[Radio_Lady]

106. Well, I can't talk until Wednesday, so please meet me back here then.

According to the Seattle publicist, they reserve the right to cancel Warner Brothers reviewing passes if I (we) break the embargo. I'm certainly not about to do that.

Stay tuned....

In peace,

Radio_Lady

[Broken_Hero]

108. well, to late then...

I am seeing it tuesday night, so we can meet back, and discuss the wrongs/rights of the flick...:) I will bring popcorn...:popcorn:

[Radio_Lady]

116. Oh, right. You're seeing it at 12:01 am Wednesday morning...

is that correct?

I plan to post my review as close to that hour (west coast time) as possible.

Thanks for the popcorn! Hot and buttered, please! YUM! Enjoy!

In peace,

Radio_Lady

[Broken_Hero]

126. 10pm

tuesday night...the movie is just over 2 and half hours long, and im CST...so i will be outta of the theater around 12:30 am or so....about 10:30 your time, if you are on the west coast...;)

[Dr Fate]

109. With Bells on- I just wish Krypto was in the script!

And I cant wait to see Spacey do my all-time favortie comic character- LEX LUTHOR!!!

[Radio_Lady]

117. He's SHAVED is all I can tell you... bald is beautiful!

[Cannikin]

118. I think he's going to be much better than Hackman

[Radio_Lady]

121. Oh, that is a NIFTY shot, Cannikin!

Thanks for posting it.

[Dr Fate]

122. Hackman was terrific- but I trust Kevin- cant wait. n/t

n/t

[Broken_Hero]

112. I'm thinking

of going to the movie wearing my fine, black suit and tie, with my superman shirt underneth, so I can unbutton my shirt, and pretend i'm supes! yeah, i'm a complete dork...:)

[Radio_Lady]

119. Hey, why not? It worked for "The Rocky Horror Picture Show" --

-- and you should have seen the group of folks in line for one of the the recent Harry Potter movies. We went to see "Tim Burton's Corpse Bride" and when we came out after 10 PM, there were all kinds of Potter fans sleeping in the foyer of the theater, dressed and ready to roll! It's Halloween every day at the movies!

Have a great time, you "misplaced Alaskan now in Missouri" -- THERE'S a story there, and I wish I knew it.

In peace,

Radio_Lady in Oregon

[Beware the Beast Man]

120. I remember Kevin Smith bemoaned the mechanical spider angle.

This was in an interview with Howard Stern back in 2000. He said that the producer was obsessed with the spider, and was trying to find any way to get it into the film, much to Smith's chagrin.


The mechanical spider finally surfaced in "Wild Wild West."


That said, this superman film looks interesting. I wouldn't mind checking it out.

[Radio_Lady]

123. Here's a background article you may have missed:

From:

http://www.laweekly.com/general/features/man-of-steel/13750/

Man of Steel

Bryan Singer overcame a path paved with kryptonite to bring back Superman



By SCOTT FOUNDAS
Wednesday, June 14, 2006 - 12:00 pm

Superman Returns director Bryan Singer is sitting on the wrong side of the camera. It’s an early June afternoon on Stage 17 of the Warner Bros. lot in Burbank, and a photographer is about to take Singer’s picture for the purposes of this article. But were you to stumble in unawares, you might sooner think that the slender, boyishly good-looking man seated in a director’s chair and sporting a distressed Superman T-shirt was an actor auditioning for a role rather than the director behind this studio’s $200 million revival of a long-dormant superhero franchise. Then again, looks can be deceiving. Just ask Clark Kent.

A few hours from now, Singer’s Superman Returns will have its first press preview — and despite weeks of round-the-clock sound mixing, color timing and visual-effects sessions, there’s still more work to be done, and more long nights ahead. “This particular film, at this particular time, was a unique grind,” Singer had told me earlier, noting that he shot Superman Returns halfway around the world in Australia while simultaneously executive producing a six-hour miniseries (The Triangle) for TV’s Sci-Fi Channel and the hit medical drama House on Fox. But today, Singer puts on a game face. He jokes with the photographer about being scrawny and out-of-shape for a guy in a Superman shirt. Then, as the session nears its end, he suddenly leaps out of his chair, picks it up with both hands and holds it proudly above his head while a few more pictures are snapped. It’s the least of the heavy lifting Singer has been doing of late.

After a decade in development hell and a revolving door of directors (Tim Burton, Michael Bay, Wolfgang Petersen and Brett Ratner among them), far-flung concepts (from the death-and-resurrection of Superman to a Superman-vs.-Batman celebrity death match) and potential Supermen (including Nicolas Cage, Brendan Fraser, Paul Walker and Josh Hartnett), Superman Returns finally took flight under Singer’s helm last spring and is now set to land in theaters across the globe on June 28, two decades after the caped crusader’s last big-screen adventure. Then, millions of fans will weigh in with their verdicts — a force, Singer acknowledges, potentially more powerful than kryptonite. “Whenever you take any kind of franchise and you play it out, it starts to go into a temporary coma,” he says, “and when that happens, it takes a while, years even, for an audience to be welcoming to its return.”


The stories are the stuff of Hollywood legend: How a charismatic (if hubristic) producer named Alexander Salkind, who made movies in Mexico in the 1940s and had a hand in Orson Welles’ The Trial, together with his son Ilya hired a plane to fly a banner over the 1974 Cannes Film Festival announcing the production of a big-budget Superman movie. How Godfather author Mario Puzo delivered a 500-page screenplay, which was subsequently rewritten by four other writers. How Marlon Brando was recruited to play Superman’s intergalactic father, Jor-El, for a then-astronomical $4 million plus 11 percent of box-office receipts. And how the arduous $50 million shoot dragged on for 16 months, with upward of seven production units filming scenes on three continents. But Superman nevertheless shot off into the stratosphere. Directed by former television director Richard Donner and starring unknown New York stage actor Christopher Reeve in the title role,the movie became the smash hit of the Christmas 1978 season, taking in more than $300 million at the worldwide box office. Among those standing in line to see it was a 12-year-old Bryan Singer.

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