Soccer is a dipshit "sport"

[KFC]

Players go down screaming when they are touched. Often they are taken off on a STRETCHER just to bounce back 30 seconds later and rejoin the game. And clearly the refs dictate the outcome - foul here, yellow card, red card. I try to watch, but it is such a joke.

Thank goodness we limit the game to schoolgirls under the age of 12 here in the US.

[TK421]

1. ......

:spray: Well, at least they don't pat each other on the ass after a good play

[Droopy]

3. Nope, they hug each other

:D

[GOPisEvil]

2. Oh yeah, because the NFL, NBA and MLB are so well-officiated...

:eyes:

[KFC]

9. MLB does a good job

NFL and NBA not so much. But - watch the soccer WC - the refs have more control over the game than any sport I have ever watched. That is a large part of the FIFA disrespect. Soccer is a joke. Possibly worse than boxing.

[GOPisEvil]

12. Ask ten umpires what a strike is. You'll get 10 answers.

But, that's what you get when you employ humans. I rather like it. :)

[KFC]

16. Good take

I'm just ragging on soccer because I think the US is getting jobbed by the refs. If I weren't interested I wouldn't have been watching. But I truly think that the refs have way too much power regarding the outcome.

[Kire]

56. You're right, there.

That ref is the worst one in the WC. And the WC has made policy that refs should be more strict. That's wrong. But it's still a beautiful game.

[VolcanoJen]

4. Definitely

What a big baby McBride is! :eyes:

[KFC]

13. Flesh wound

[VolcanoJen]

14. At least a knight wears armor.

;-)

[nyhuskyfan]

30. It isn't for everyone...

What I find to be the best part of soccer is the ebb and flow of momentum over a 90 minute game. One team controls play for a while, and then all of a sudden, the other team pounces and starts creating chances. The best part is that you can't call timeout, and you can't rotate players in and out. The players have to work through it. I enjoy basketball, but I hate the strategic timeouts to stop momentum - I would rather watch the athletes try to dig down and fight through it. There is something very unathletic about being able to stop the game just because you are getting your butt kicked.

[maveric]

5. The lack of scoring kills me.

Passing the ball around the field with an occaisional shot on net and a rare goal....I just dont get it.
I find golf more exciting than soccer.

[GOPisEvil]

7. It's not the scoring, it's the scoring chances...

...it's the impending build up as a run develops toward the goal, only to be thwarted. I never really got soccer until I watched it with people who understood the nuance and could explain it. Baseball is considered boring to some, but if you know the nuances, it's actually quite mentally challenging.

[VolcanoJen]

10. Agreed on both counts

I enjoy watching both football/soccer and baseball for the nuances (and hot players). :-)

Gotta love that there's no commercials in soccer though; no wasted time, no stepping in and out of the box to delay the game and shake up the defense... 45 minutes a half of pure action.

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[maveric]

36. I just find it painfully boring.

Mentally challenged? 0-0 ties and 2-1 scorefests are not that exciting.
Offense taken.

[dorktv]

20. Oh I like the fact that you can kick a ball almost to the other side of

the field like Kellor did today.

[Kire]

58. Ever see a goalkeeper score?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJfW3hrzAz8&search=poland

[TheFriendlyAnarchist]

22. Lol, I'm a caddie, and I gotta tell you, I think golf is one of THE most

boring sports out there. I just never understood what people find so appealing about it :shrug:

[Madrone]

6. I can tell you've never played.

:)

[Neoma]

8. *glares*

[Mutley]

11. Soccer is a lot harder than it looks.

With constant running you have to be at absolute peak physical shape. And look very closely at the falls they take. It Hurts. Sure the worst of the pain will wear off after a minute or two, but I'd like to see you, or me, or anyone in this Lounge take hits like that and walk it off like it's nothing.

[deadparrot]

15. Soccer's not my thing,

but I can respect them for their endurance. I know I couldn't run up and down a field that size for hours at a time.

[ps1074]

17. I love soccer

:)

[Mutley]

18. Me too.

:D

That was a hell of a game.

[dorktv]

19. Um, then how come the US women won their world cup a bit ago?

And we managed to play with only 9 guys for nearly 45 minutes without the other team scoring so buzz off! Plus OUR guys fall over all and get tackled and in one case today smashed in the nose with an elbow and NOT ONE OF THEM ran off the field whining.

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[TheFriendlyAnarchist]

25. .

:popcorn:

[dorktv]

27. Try saying that in front of Clint Dempsey or Langdon Donovan.

And we played better this time then last time. Next time we WIN!!!

[Random_Australian]

44. Yep, all those stupid, inferior foreigners who don't think

that are completely wrong, and the U.S. is correct.

I must be crazy.

:crazy:

Lemme put it like this: Guys play soccer all over the world. In America, more often, girls play soccer. Therefore "Soccer is a women's game" takes into account exactly what sample of the world?

Ahhh, what am I saying. Enjoy your American (Or perhaps Canadian... I don't know) viewpoint.

And of course, you could have meant that "In America, soccer is a women's game" hmmmmm....

meh.

:popcorn:

[Kire]

59. Don't even bother

Just press alert, type "this is sexist" and the post will be magically gone in a few hours. Maybe less.

[Arugula Latte]

76. I know what you're saying, R_A, but

as far as I can tell, "soccer"/football is just as popular with little boys as it is with little girls in the U.S. I wonder if in a decade or so it will have more of a following here (?) Although ... people have been saying that for years.

I dunno -- I can't get into either "soccer" or American football. The only sport I semi-enjoy watching is baseball, which millions of people find to be a crashing bore :shrug:

[Blue_Tires]

23. oh dear

you did forget the sarcasm tag, right?

and what kinds of manly 'sports' do you play on a world-class level? (Xbox doesn't count)

[Oeditpus Rex]

24. American football

is grown men playing war with body armor and drugs, to an audience of people who love violence.

[KFC]

31. Have you ever played football?

Tell me about a helmet to helmet hit.

[Oeditpus Rex]

34. I don't care

I've seen enough of it from the sidelines to have a better feel for it than the average fan. I don't think a helmet hit can be as violent as you imply when it's part of the blocking strategy.

Besides — soccer, rugby and Australian football players smack heads all the time — and they don't wear helmets.

You start a thread calling soccer "dipshit" and "a girl's sport" and you get what you ask for. Why not go off on baseball and piss off even more people while you're at it? Hey, throw in golf and gymnastics and ice skating and curling. Offend as many people as you can.

:eyes:

[KFC]

35. You miss my point

American football is the most violent sport on the planet. Put on a helmet and take a hit to the head. When you wake up, give me a call.

[Oeditpus Rex]

37. I'm impressed

A helmet hit will ring your bell and football is violent, so soccer is "dipshit" and "a girl's sport."

No, I got your point. So did everyone else in this thread.

[xmas74]

39. Disagree about most violent sport.

You've never played alot of hockey, have you?

My brother did both. He was injured more playing hockey than ever playing football.

[Anarcho-Socialist]

73. Most violent? Ice hockey, Rugby Union and Rugby League

...would rank higher I think.

EDIT: for Aussie rules.

[Kire]

50. I've never played.

I've never claimed to know anything about it.

What's a helmet to helmet hit?

[nyhuskyfan]

28. It is the culture of the sport

The same way people flop in basketball at the first sign of contact trying to draw a charge.

Players are trying to embellish the severity of the fouls to try to influence the referee - and sometimes steal some rest time for themselves and their teammates (since they can't call time outs). It is just what they do. It's gamesmanship. Refs sometimes give yellow cards for diving in the penalty area

[scoey1953]

29. Header??? I believe at one point in Soccer's early history...

The Ball had replaced a Human Head...that Head being someone the town did not like.

[Blue_Tires]

32. if you don't like to see diving, avoid watching the following teams:

1. Portugal (most important)
2. Italy
3. Spain
4. Mexico
5. Argentina

[kryckis]

51. Oh man..

Shouldn't Arjen Robben have his own spot on that list? His dives are always hilarious, even more so when he gets carded for the effort.

[mac56]

33. You know why so many Europeans play soccer?

So they don't have to watch it.

[Random_Australian]

38. AMERICAN FOOTBALL IS FOR WUSSES TOO!

They play with padding on.... which makes it wussy in my book. (Aussies play without padding)

[Oeditpus Rex]

40. I remember the VFL Grand Final in... around 1984

Back when ESPN showed footy. I think it was Essendon v. Carlton.

About midway through the second half, one of the players took a pretty nasty hit. He was attended to on the field while play continued around him and the trainers. Amazing.

[Random_Australian]

41. That's footy for you.... no-one likes to make it look like they are hurt.

Unless they lie still of course, or are twitching. That is usually a sign of 'O shit, that is not cool'

[Oeditpus Rex]

42. Yeah, that one was totally not cool

I think it was the only time I saw a guy get hurt enough that he couldn't be taken from the field. And when you consider guys often land on their heads after a mark, that ain't bad.

But, kee-rist — they kept playing right around the guy. I couldn't believe that.

How long is the average footy career, y'know? And is it played in schools there, or is it just club and pro teams?

[Random_Australian]

43. Footy is played from about 8, I think, but mainly just touch at that stage

Until about 15 you are much more likely to play touch, but then the interested ones play tackle from about then. (Touch is the same as normal, but you merely have to tag them... it's kind of like the 'kids version' and much more acceptable at schools)

The average footy career? I dunno.

[KFC]

46. Point taken. But have you taken a full hit with full padding;?

You have no idea. Like a rocket.

[Random_Australian]

63. No, I have not taken a hit. I might have some idea though, amongst

other things I have fallen down a flight of stairs, but I think that sounds more full body.... like that time I fell down the landslide's cliff edge (not exactly far but hurt like HELL... I have had a lot of accidents over the years)

[BuddhaGirl]

71. American football is totally wussy!

it's also aaaagonizingly long and boring. On TV they show a replay of EVERY friggin play...stop the clock here, time out there....SHEESH!

Give me non-stop soccer, and the most talented athletes! There's a reason it's called the "Beautiful Game!" :-)

[alcibiades_mystery]

45. Better than standing around in a circle 45 minutes of an hour

(which takes 3 hours)...they call this American football...

:rofl:

[LSK]

47. why did you feel the need to post this?

You dont see me making posts ripping hockey or golf. What is it that makes you feel good ripping someone elses sport?

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[Random_Australian]

64. None about golf or hockey? R_A to the rescue!

[Random_Australian]

66. Done!

[kryckis]

48. I love football! Err, "soccer"..

If you get the fundamentals of soccer it's really enjoyable. It's like chess with people and it's very interesting that way. Besides, soccer is a universal sport. It might have gotten very money-oriented on a higher level but basicly it's still the "people's sport" and that is what makes the WC an amazing event.

[Oeditpus Rex]

55. 'Chess with people'

I like that. :thumbsup:

Welcome to DU. :hi:

[kryckis]

57. Thank you! nt

[Kire]

49. Are you referring to Brian McBride?

He takes an elbow to the face today, bleeding like hell, and he's back in 2 minutes. Yeah, I can see how much of a schoolgirl he is.

[Kire]

52. "Soccer" is the 2nd most popular topic of conversation in the world.

Next to the weather. You're just pissing in the wind, KFC. Go torture some other chickens.

[rene moon]

53. And I'm sure you couldnt play it

I bet you couldnt take running up and down the field for 90 minutes, with not much of a break. And most LAZY-ASS Americans couldnt. That's why it is a "dipshit, women's sport" to you.

And by the way, I am sure Pele and Mia Hamm would like to know that they are dipshits from some clueless American guy who thinks American Football is the most "violent" sport!

HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!

[kryckis]

60. It's not just running for 90 minutes either

You have to be very sharp and perceptive to be able read the game and be at the right spot at exactly the right time every time. The best footballers are also the most intelligent. It's incredibly difficult to be at the top in this sport with everything it requires.

[KFC]

62. A Mia Hamm Fan!

Wait a minute. Who the hell is mia hammm? Oh, she was the one who established the us womens soccer league. Gone.

[RevolutionaryActs]

61. But, but the players are so hot.

:9

[Kellanved]

65. It's a lot tougher than it looks

Playing a match is painful; there's no notable armor and the impacts are a lot less expectable. Anybody who thinks the "contacts" to be light has never played a game. It hurts like hell.

Also if there's the possibility of an injury, it has to be checked right away. A missed thing can cause an end to the career.

[MrSlayer]

67. I agree.

It's a joke of a game. No action, very little scoring and all those fake injuries. The ball spends as much time or more out of play than in play. As I've said before it's obvious why there are so many drunken riots at these games, there is nothing else to do there.

[Kellanved]

68. Well, for people in most of the world there's lot of action.

We can't see any action in AMerican Football and Baseball; nor any beauty in Basketball. Soccer has action and beauty - it's perfect.

As to "so many" riots: not more than in any other sports drawing crowds in the millions ballpark.

[MrSlayer]

69. Really? At what other sport events do people riot?

I've never seen a riot at any sporting event here. An isolated fight or two but never a full blown riot with people getting killed and shit.

[Kellanved]

70. nor will you with soccer

There were terrible incidents in the past, possibly in the future, but it has more to do with underlying problems in the societies. Those riots are started by highly organized groups - there's nothing spontaneous or "normal fan behavior" about them.
Chess would do just as well as soccer as reason to do those riots. And IIRC - there are plenty of examples for riots after non-soccer wins in the US.

Considering that we are looking at crowds with well above 500,000 people (most drunk) during the world cup, the incidents are isolated; no serious injuries nor real riots. That's a lower violence rate for watchers than any other sport; it's even lower than the usual number with no sport going on. It simply is a very entertaining game; just idiots think about using it for a riot.

[Anarcho-Socialist]

72. "drunken riots"

Those are products of calculated rivalries. Some fans use soccer to act out local and nationalistic rivalries resulting from the past, previous wars and such. They do it because it matters so much to their pride. Rioters are a small minority, most can watch a game without getting into a brawl.

[wickerwoman]

74. Well, the simple answer is not to watch it...

I'm sure it'll be out of business in a year or two now that you don't like it.

Of course, you wouldn't get quite so much attention doing that...

[Anarcho-Socialist]

75. Of course, if girls play it, then it must be a "dipshit sport"

:sarcasm:

:eyes:

[Ediacara]

77. Locking

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If you don't like soccer, I suggest you change the channel friend.