Whats with all the hate and violence?

[TheFriendlyAnarchist]

I've been noticing this alot both here and out in the world. Comments like, "Freak'n A. preferably after you break the abuser's arms in self defense!" (I apologize to this poster because they aren't the only ones, just the most recent one I've seen). Self defence or not, anyone else just get a real sense of hate from this post? I don't know about all of you, but I won't advocate violence of any means without the most dire circumstance.

I just can't understand why people continue to be so hateful toward others when it's so much easier, and you feel so much better to love them instead. But even if someone isn't worthy of your love, I can think of no person who deserves such abject hate that is present in the world. Call me naive, or a 'hippie freeper' (heh, I remeber when DevilGrrl called me that, it still makes me laugh), but those are my principles. So, what are yours?

[skygazer]

1. Well, mine aren't quite so black and white

I think a lot of the comments you refer to (and certainly the one you reference) come from a sense of frustration and helplessness. It was made in regards to a child abuse incident and it's pretty hard to consider an innocent child being hurt without feeling some anger and frustration. That's the case with much of what's going on politically as well - when it's so obvious what crooks and liars are in power and yet it seems almost impossible to change it. Frustration boils over.

What happens to a dream deferred?

Does it dry up
like a raisin in the sun?
Or fester like a sore--
And then run?
Does it stink like rotten meat?
Or crust and sugar over--
like a syrupy sweet?

Maybe it just sags
like a heavy load.

Or does it explode?


I don't advocate violence but sometimes people need to express SOMETHING or they do explode. Just my two cents.

[wildhorses]

2. i like the way you think...peace, love and understanding

(although I understand the kneejerk response about the abuser...the whole situation there just made me cry...the mother could definitely have used some peace, love and understanding too)
perhaps if approached in that vein the situation could have been peacefully defused...
"I Hope"

Sunday morning, I heard the preacher say
Thou shall not kill
I don't wanna hear nothing else about killing
And that it's God's will

'Cause our children are watching us
They put their trust in us
They're gonna be like us
So let's learn from our history
And do it differently

I hope, for more love, more joy and laughter
I hope, we'll have more than we'll ever need
I hope, we'll have more happy ever after
I hope, we can all live more fearlessly
And we can lose all the pain and misery
I hope, I hope

Oh, Rosie, her man he gets too rough
That's all she can say, is he's a good man
He don't mean no harm
He was just brought up that way

But our children are watching us
They put their trust in us
They're gonna be like us
It's okay for us to disagree
We can work it out lovingly

I hope, for more love, more joy and laughter
I hope, we'll have more than we'll ever need
I hope, we'll have more happy ever after
I hope, we can all live more fearlessly
And we can lose all the pain and misery
I hope, I hope

There must be a way to change what's going on
No I don't have all the answers

I hope, for more love, more joy and laughter
I hope, we'll have more than we'll ever need
I hope, we'll have more happy ever after
I hope, we can all live more fearlessly
And we can lose all the pain and misery
I hope, I hope

I hope, I hope, I hope

[TheFriendlyAnarchist]

3. Cick for Curiosites sake

[txwhitedove]

4. Glad you kicked. Mystery to me why some people can't

just be nice and let other people have a fun thread here on DU. Democrats aren't supposed to be snobs and we supposedly joined DU to work together. It is not just voicing your opinion when you insult, curse, condescend or degrade someone. It would appear that some on DU prefer to bait others just for the possible fight. Why? I prefer to use one of the golden rules: If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything. In other words, if you are a considerate, intelligent DU'er, find a NICE way to disagree.

[flvegan]

8. I agree, and I don't understand it either.

I chalk it up to some folks just being complete, total, 100 percent, USDA Grade A choice assholes. They have issues, and when filled with hate and anger, lash out.

[bridgit]

5. it's a snippy, snarky, passive-aggressive world, and sometimes du...

is no exception to the rule :shrug: i agree, it is preferable to keep the dream alive i will say that :thumbsup:

[TheFriendlyAnarchist]

7. Yes, but that's what's sad, is that for everyone,

the world would be a better place, and even if your about utility as opposed to principle, the world as a whole would function better if there were more peace and love instead of hate and war. Sometimes people are just confusing :shrug:

[bridgit]

10. imo it applies for too many, plus, in the course of what i do i interact

with many people, and pass through many more just to get there; there is, or seems, a hardness in the circles i which i travel...i am forever asking hubby, "what's wrong with people? why are they acting so nini-fied?" you know = cutting in front of people, scoffing at the maladies of another, theft, disorder, misrepresentation, all the rest of it...

he feels that society is cracking under the pressure of living within a great lie i.e. the war, disenfranchisement, and so forth...

and sometimes i agree

If you ever get close to a human
And human behavior
Be ready to get confused
There's definitely no logic
To human behavior
But yet so irresistible
There's no map
To human behavior
They're terribly moody
Then all of a sudden turn happy
But, oh, to get involved in the exchange
Of human emotions is ever so satisfying
There's no map
And a compass
Wouldn't help at all
Human behavior

:hi:

[Ariana Celeste]

6. Honestly,

I think it is just easier for people to hate. Maybe I'm wrong, but it just appears that way.

I try to stay objective. Violence shouldn't be met with violence, nor hate with hate. That just keeps the cycle going.

[TheFriendlyAnarchist]

9. Well, I think there's some truth to that, that it's easier to hate.

But for me, over the past year, I've grown more comfortable with myself, and the concept of love, and after seeing how much better I felt because of it, i've found it much easier to accept and love things and peolple rather than hate them. While this doesn't mean I don't get grumpy every now and then, I've been an overall happier person. I've really started to think that there is just a barrier you need to overcome for it to be easier to accept and understand love instead of hate.

[otherlander]

11. Well.... I think you're pretty much right...

Very rarely do I approve of violence, only when there is no other means of protecting someone. I believe in civil disobedience, but I have to admit, there's something terribly attractive about the thought armed rebellion. But then I think, no, it's hardly ever useful to destroy something by force. You know, meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

One of the things it's very easy to find yourself thinking if you're not careful is, "The enemy of my enemy is my friend!" I know most people don't consciously believe it, but I've seen people around here saying things like, "Anyone who hates Bush that much can't be too bad!" Uh...what about anyone who hates HITLER can't be that bad? Stalin!

Just sayin...