Sooner fan, you just got screwed!!!

[terryg11]

Too bad, that was a great second half the Oklahma team put together only to have the officials in the booth screw up on the review twice.


No kidding the receiving team touched the ball, after it got knocked away by the kicking team before it was legal.

[Broken_Hero]

1. I missed it

there was about 4 minutes left, when I changed it....

[YellowRubberDuckie]

2. That's awesome!

And what's better, Sooner fans are going to be bitching because Ok State is about to wipe the floor with Florida Atlantic. In the bottom of the first half, they're winning 21-0. :rofl:
Duckie

[Broken_Hero]

3. oh...good one!

:) I do love heckling the OU crowd(in good jest though, mostly, sometimes)...:hi:

[YellowRubberDuckie]

4. I hear it all the time: OSU Sucks. Whatever.

They're not the one losing in preleague play. I hate most OU fans. They're obnoxious and rude, especially when they're losing. I'm a OSU Cowboy fan thru and thru. I hate fair weather fans, and most of OU's fans are fair weather.
Duckie

[Broken_Hero]

5. Most of the OU fans I have met

in real life, have been pretty...arrogant, and rude about their team, and that planted the seed of my dislike for OU. I have met one person online who has been a decent OU fan, and that is fishwax...all of the other OU fans I have talked with online, are IMO, worse than the real life ones I have met...

[YellowRubberDuckie]

6. GreatAuntofTriplets is pretty nice.

I will give her some credit, even though she is a fan of OU. And there is one guy I work with who is just too cute for me to dislike, even though his desk looks like OU threw up on it.
Duckie

[Broken_Hero]

8. thats good, its hard to find any decent

fan who isn't a slobbering beast...;) :rofl: :)

[greatauntoftriplets]

9. Thanks for a bit of praise.

My :loveya: attended OU and he is a big fan. He is also a big fan of Northwestern U., which I attended.

[fishwax]

12. hey there, petersond

:hi:

I saw upthread you switched the game off with four minutes left ... you missed a barnburner of a finish. Were I a neutral observer, I would say it was an incredible and exciting finish filled with drama and controversy. But since I had a horse in this race, and since that horse was on the receiving end of a major-league hose job, I'm a little too ticked to put it like that ;)

[Broken_Hero]

13. its okay,

I was all ready miffed, when I changed the channel...and I was surprised when I changed to espn and saw oregon celebrating? I was like..wtf? You idiots were losing by ten! So, I checked online, and Ore won...I couldn't believe it....I'm not going to rub it in, I know about ref influence, I'm a Seahawk fan, and I had to bite my tongue, and take the Pitt lashings on DU like a man.....

[Broken_Hero]

14. another thing....I have now missed three great comebacks...

this game, last nfl season when the Redskins over came a 10 point spread within the last 4 minutes or so...the year before, I believe Tampa Bay had a 14 point led over...the...Eagles I want to say, and the Eagles came back and won....(it might have been Indianopolis, it was a MNF game)

oh man...you guys missed a field goal at the end? oh man....the tipped ball/pass interference, I didn't understand...but stil, missing the field goal? Man, what a way to lose...:(

[fishwax]

19. The really controversial call was the onside kick before the

last oregon touchdown.

For some reason, the officials ruled that Oregon recovered the onside kick, though on a replay you can see that a Sooner has the ball before the officials even show up. (The OU player lying on the fifty has the ball in his arm.)


The really controversial part of the kickoff, though, was what was reviewed by the replay official. It was clear from the replay that an Oregon player had touched the ball before it went ten yards, which should have been a penalty on Oregon for illegal touching. This is not the best image, but you can see that the ball is coming down into the hands of an Oregon player who is inside the 45 yard line. The refs reviewed this, and somehow ruled that there was inconclusive evidence that an OU player had touched it first. Even the announcers (even Fouts, who played for Oregon) said it was a horrible call. Oregon never should have had possession to score that last touchdown.


The last field goal that was blocked was just insult to injury :)

But oh well, it's just football (or so I tell myself ;))

I missed both of those NFL comebacks too. Few things are more exciting than a late rally like that :)

[Floogeldy]

22. There are only two possible reasons why those reviews went against OU.

1. Corrupt officials.

2. Gutless officials who were afraid to make the call against UO at home.

Not even incompetency could be legitimately proffered as an excuse.

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[fishwax]

27. it's hard to imagine

anyone being quite that incompetent, so I suppose I agree with you.

Did you see this video, which shows an OU player (allen patrick) clearly (and rather easily) covering the onside kick? Possession never should have been given to UO in the first place. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IhHPggLpSY

[Floogeldy]

28. Yes.

This is very serious stuff. Millions and millions of dollars are at stake due to these two calls, which are the worst in recorded college football history, because BCS bowl bids may be affected.

This goes way beyond the level of disgruntled fans.

I am seriously suggesting that a criminal investigation should be undertaken.

[YellowRubberDuckie]

41. I watched the replay...

I love the excuses you OU fans make for your team losing. This team lucks into most of the games they win, and it's been going that way for years. They aren't a good team. They're a lucky team. Simple as that.
Duckie

[RoyGBiv]

44. No excuses ...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=5632718&mesg_id=5633948

But that doesn't change the reality that the call was obviously bad to anyone looking at it with even an inkling of an unbiased eye. Hell, even Dan Fouts said so, and he's hardly unbiased.

Unconditional hatred of a sports team is just as illogical as unconditional devotion. The Sooners lost, and you're happy about that, and that's fine, just as it's fine for the throngs of Duck's fans and other Sooner-haters to be happy. But what many Sooner fans, myself included, find incredibly irritating is when people try to claim that this massively blown call didn't make a fundamental difference in the game's outcome. Clearly it did. See my above linked post for more of my thoughts on that.

[RoyGBiv]

45. Well, okay then ...

I don't think I'm particularly arrogant about the Sooners, but whatever ...

I understand your feelings on this, but in reality, is there a fan base in existence that doesn't have a sizable number of incredibly arrogant devotees? I personally find OSU fans insufferable, mostly because the ones I know personally spend more energy cheering when OU loses than they do when their team wins. I, as an OU fan, always cheer for OSU in every game except when they're playing OU. When Texas beat OU last year, I offered my congratulations to many Texas fans on this very forum. Meanwhile, I got calls all afternoon from OSU fans I know gloating, as though their team had had anything to do with it. And don't even get me started on Michigan fans, several of whom I consider close, personal friends, but with whom I can't tolerate occupying the same room when Michigan is playing.

It's just sports, for privy's sake. It's entertainment. We can be fans and love our teams and be upset when unfair things happen without being so rancorous about it.

[Floogeldy]

47. Yow, I cheer for OSU most of the time, too.

:)

[Floogeldy]

21. Yow. Sooner fans are going to bitch because OSU

beats Howard Smellyburger's team.

:rofl:

[greatauntoftriplets]

7. The announcers seemed strongly biased towards Oregon.

I laughed uproariously when one of them said something about when the Sooners go back to Stillwater. Get your towns straight, it's Norman!!!

:eyes:

[Broken_Hero]

11. I didn't notice

but again, I had the game on mute most of the time....:) Well, look at it this way, I don't think any team is going undeafted this year, so...hate to say it, OU still has a chance, especially if they put the hurt to UT when they play...and win out...all that needs to happen is have Ohio St a few others lose, which I think...everyone will have at least one loss this year just about...and look at Miami today, geesh...a beating by Louisville?

[YellowRubberDuckie]

15. Their defense sucks this year...

And I don't think they're going to beat the heavy hitters this year. And besides, they aren't going to be able to go to the National Championship this year, so no matter what, they lose. This is the best year. Rhett Bomar really personifies the attitude of OU And their fans. They think they're above the rules, the law. THank God they are getting served.
Duckie

[Broken_Hero]

16. you never know...the biggest slap in my face

was when OU went to the title game against LSU, when OU got spanked by KSU...I was like, how the hell does OU go to the National Title game over USC? Talk about having influence/sway in College Football...how the hell do you go to a national title game, when you get spanked in the last game of the season, the big 12 title game...that fiasco is way beyond me....

[YellowRubberDuckie]

17. But all that is coming to an end.

Everyone in college football hates them, and it is well deserved.
Duckie

[Floogeldy]

46. Dude, you are a little too OUPhobic.

There are teams that I consider rivalries, but I don't hate them to the point of obsession. I think you love OU and have OU envy. That is why you hate OU so much!!!!!!!

:rofl:

[fishwax]

10. That was definitely a hose job

The replay showed clearly that Oregon touched it before the ten yards were up. What's more, pictures actually showed that OU recovered the ball and not Oregon.

The defense totally collapsed, and never should have given up two scores in the last minute and a half. But the replay official blew it big time, and OU should have been able to just run out the clock.

:grr:

[bigbrother05]

18. No one likes to lose, but ....

when even the ESPN/ABC announcers say the refs and replay officials got it wrong, twice in the last minute, it's hard to take.

As some others said on this thread, there is a lot of season left and maybe this will be the wakeup call the Sooners need to pull their heads out and play solid defense from now on.

[Arugula Latte]

20. Ory-Gone, Baby!

:woohoo:

Almost as good as when my Cal Bears mowed down the Stanford tuba player after a rugby-like play to win the Big Game back in, what, '83 or so...

[gratuitous]

23. Can't stop the Ducks!

The officials got all those calls exactly right, Oregon handed Oklahoma 16 points, neither one of the plays the Sooner fans are bitching about was a scoring play, Oregon still had to score the ball, Oregon scored the ball easily on a porous defense, and . . . Ah, hell, that's enough.

Oklahoma should quit scheduling games west of the Rockies. Their magic seems to disappear just like Miami's does when it leaves the state of Florida.

[fishwax]

26. you mean like in the holiday bowl?

Other than UCLA last year and UO today, OU hasn't lost a game west of the rockies in a long time. Of course, they don't play there much, but even so. They did alright in the holiday bowl last year and the rose a couple of years back.

As for today's game, the refs blew the call on the onside kick twice. First, OU recovered, not Oregon, as the replay definitively shows. And second, UO touched it first, and before the ten yard mark, so it should have been an illegal touch. But OU's defense was horrible in the last couple of minutes, no doubt about that. And big props to the ducks for not giving up, both on offense and on defense when OU had the ball inside the ten up by ten.

[Floogeldy]

29. Don't forget the Rose Bowl, January 1, 2003.

;)

OU 34, Washington State 14. Of course, the Pac-10 TOTALLY FREAKED OUT about that one.

:rofl:

[fishwax]

30. I remember that well

that was a great end to a fun year. And the game was even more one-sided than the score showed. :)

[Broken_Hero]

31. hmmm...bud, national title game two years ago

what was the final score, against USC? Wasn't it like...50 something, to 14? In favor of USC...:) Sorry, just had to bring that one up...:hi:

[fishwax]

32. yeah, but usc was paying players

:rofl:

That was an ugly game, to be sure ... but having grown up a Broncos fan in the Elway era, I had some experience with being blown out in championship games ;)

[Broken_Hero]

35. hmm...and Bomar was on your squad at the time

wasn't he?...I'm not sure, honestly, was Bomar on the squad two years ago? He has backed J. White for a while...J. White, another mind boggle like M. Leinart, five year quarterbacks? Whats the deal with that...

That USC/OU game was awesome...I had the hear OU "Praise" all effing year. At the time, I only had the uhf channels and every saturday night, for like two hours, they would have the OU Sooner hour of power program, on two of hte channels, and a televangelist on the other uhf channel...talk about a living hell on earth...I would try to stregthen my gut, and watch the OU Sooner hour of power, but I would only last five minutes, before passing out, and blood would come from my eyes/ears...:( It wasn't a pretty sight. Plus, 99% of my wifes family are HUGE OU fans, and I had to hear their crap all year...but when USC put the hurt on them...I just had to pay it back in spades, and I did...but they didn't take it to well...they could dish it, but not take it....:)

The Sooner Hour of Power had an indepth play by play, synopsis with some OU commentator, and Bob Stoops...they have the same thing with K. Sampson during OU's baskeball seasons....talk about torture....:(

[fishwax]

36. yeah, he was redshirting that year

:) I don't think he was getting paid yet :rofl: White actually had six years, because he had a strange habit of pulling his ACL while tripping over the forty yard line. Two years in a row he popped his ACL, and he wasn't hit at all either time. Once at Nebraska and once at home against Alabama.

Man, you're lucky ... I wish I could get the sooner hour of power. ;)

[RoyGBiv]

34. LOL!!!

Okay then.

I'd argue the point, but it's already been done. Enjoy your delusion.

[GregW]

24. All I can say is...

BWAA HAA HAA HA HAA!!!

[SeattleGirl]

25. Ditto!

GO DUCKS!!!!!!!!!

[RoyGBiv]

33. I don't mind losing ...

To be perfectly honest about it, if OU had played a better game (1st and goal on the 2 and they end up kicking a field goal from Siberia ... I mean, COME ON!), they wouldn't have been in that position. It's a bit like the Tech game last year. OU got screwed on a series of late game calls that one could be forgiven for believe were constructed to ensure Tech scored again, but they'd blown half a dozen chances to put the game away earlier.

And OU blew a LOT of chances in this game, and their defense was ... bad for the most part.

That said, were I a Oregon player, I would be ashamed to have won that way. With something said up-thread in mind, I was ashamed the Sooners were in a national title game after getting their asses handed to them in the Big 12 Championship game, and I know some of the players were as well. (And, btw, this wasn't OU's "influence" that caused that; it's that godforsaken ranking system. USC has at least as much influence as OU.) Oregon got outplayed in the second half, by a long shot, and were played even in the first. Despite OU's lack-luster defense, Oregon kept giving them easy opportunities to take the ball away. If this is redemption in an Oregon fan's mind, I hope the players at least understand it's a shallow one and if they continue to play the way they did today against quality teams as the season progresses, all the promise Dan Fouts kept harping about is going to hit a brick wall.

Been a sports fan as long as I can remember and an OU fan as long as I could recognize who they were. I don't like it when my team wins because of an obviously really bad call that tips the game because all this means is that my team didn't really win.

[Broken_Hero]

37. I do agree with a good handful of your points

especially the BCS system...I hate/loathe the BCS system. I hate the fact that some teams seem to get a cake walk season, and go to a high bowl game, and then get creamed...and the bias in College Football is pretty apparent in a good number of cases...I even had issue with OU playing Washington St. in the Rose bowl that year, I thought for sure, OU vs Georgia, and Mich vs Washington st, where pac-10/big 10 usually meet up.

OU who I, and many others thought, would play Georgia, got Washington St. for some strange reason, now why is that? I don't understand the BCS, its contradicts itself so much, I cannot even explain it, without getting a head ache. OU did blow Wash st out of the water, I watched half that game and I knew W. ST was complete toast....

So far this year has been pretty decent, as far as cross/division games go, and I would hope that they implement some sort of play off system soon. Its sad that if you lose 1 game...your season is pretty much toast, what a shame that is. And, last year, or the year before we had three undeafted teams at the end, wait...four...USC, Okla, Georgia, and Utah St I believe...now, with 4 undeafted teams, I think its a farce that they can't all play for the national title...but instead we delve into

"this division is weak, and that pac 10 is weaker, but the big 12 didn't do this or that, or SEC didn't do this or that" type of debate. I believe that there are some influence that certain college teams have on the BCS system, some people say its a computer, and it tabulates blah blah blah, but I don't buy it for a minute. I haven't been a college football fan for long, maybe 10 yrs tops, but I see serious flaws in the BCS, and I would love to have a playoff type system...I cannot even think of another major sport, who doesn't have a play off system in place....so, why does College Football get a pass on that?

Sorry, I didn't mean to give the impression I was ranting on you at all, I just got caught up in BCS bashing, so please forgive me...:)

[RoyGBiv]

38. Nothing I disagree with there ...

The BCS is fundamentally broken and has been in all its incarnations. I think it has worked to pick at least the top two teams on a couple of occasions, but I also believe this has been more by accident than design. But even then, one could quibble. While I could certainly be accused of bias for saying so, I do firmly believe OU deserved its chance at playing for a national title in 2000. I am not as convinced Florida State was the proper opponent. And when we get into 3rd thru 8th, it all seems rather arbitrary, *worse* than the poll system.

A playoff system is the logical answer. The problem with it is how you determine who gets into the playoff. The primary practical difference between football and other NCAA sports with playoff systems is the time and expsense it would take to complete such a playoff. The pontential for player injury also increases with the number of games played, which is a valid concern. I think NCAA basketball has the best, and most exciting from the perspective of the fan, playoff system, but that level of a playoff would not be possible for football.

Most playoff system strategies I've seen work with the top 8, which is certainly doable. But the problem of ranking still comes into play. In both of the last two years, controversy surrounded #8 and #9 at least as vicious as #1 and #2. And how do conference championships fit into this? Members of conferences with championship games of their own have a valid complaint against teams that don't go through this process. OU's disaterous performance in the Big 12 game, mentioned previously, wouldn't ever have occurred with some teams in similar positions and wouldn't have happened to OU in the old Big 8 when conference ranking was the measure.

All I'm saying here is that no system that is practical would be without controversy, but I do think a playoff system would lessen the controversy to some extent.

But then there's the money angle, combined with an antiquated reliance on traditional bowl games, which is the real problem.

[SeattleGirl]

40. I hate the BCS too!

What a crappy system, regardless of what your favorite team is. The systen makes absolutely no sense, and does seem to be unfairly weighted in favor of some teams or divisions, and against other teams or divisions. I wish they'd throw the whole damned thing out. Either that, or substitute it with a dart board with all the teams on it, and have someone throw darts blindfolded. Results of doing it that way couldn't be any worse than they sometimes are with the BCS system.

[L A Woman]

42. but actually the pansy divisions now have an advantage...

about 3 years ago, they minimized the "strength of schedule" element and when they did that, it opened the doors for teams like USC to suddenly jump up to a higher ranking. So a team in a weak conference like the PAC-10 can play nobody all year and play for the national championship. It's really stupid.

[RoyGBiv]

43. Dart Board

I think the dart board system would be leagues more fair than what the BCS has produced in recent years. It would certainly be no worse.

[CBGLuthier]

39. We made money thanks to the call

My wife had the number 7 in the pool.

Thanks to the call she won the last quarter.

OU is in for a long season anyway. They may have gotten screwed this time but there are some teams down the road that are going to humiliate them.

Which kind of makes me happy. Go Cowboys. :-)

[gr8dane_daddy]

48. Hmmmm...

Hook'em Ducks!

[Rainbowreflect]

49. This husker fan just had to add....

Oklahoma got screwed big time. The "no tip" tipped ball, pass interference was bad (clue to officials: ball in mid flight cannot change directions without coming into contact with some other object). But the on side kick call totally sucked.