Do you ever see old pictures and kind of wish you had lived then??

[SoCalDem]

http://www.history.noaa.gov/movie_gallery.html

I ran across this old old old video ..shot in 1920's & 30's taken by the people who eventually became NOAA..

The picture just exemplified the slower pace. I am sure that this couple embarked on such adventure.. Can you imagine living in the Philippines in 1924?? I can almost hear the woman explaining to HER family that she would be leaving on a long journey and might not be coming back for years.. Did her family resent him for taking her away from them?? Did they have children there?? It just seems that the picture shows them relaxed and enjoying themselves, and their life had NONE of the conveniences that we can't imagine being without..


Captain and Mrs. Fred L. Peacock. At the Zamboanga Country Club. Off the MARINDUQUE
Image ID: theb3231, NOAA People Collection
Location: Zamboanga, Philippines
Photo Date: 1924
Credit: Family of Captain George L. Anderson, C&GS

apparently this is the Marinduque today :(..
http://www.caa.org.au/campaigns/mining/ombudsman/2002/prelimeports/marinduque/request.html


Requests & Grievances
Background Details
Chronology of Events

Requests & Grievances

Demands

Conclusion


Request
During the Philippine National Conference on Mining in May 2002, the Mining Ombudsman had initial contact with representatives of the affected communities of Marinduque Island.124 The grievances recorded below in this preliminary report are a summary of long-standing broad demands that have been taken to Placer Dome on several occasions by the communities and various NGOs.
Oxfam Community Aid Abroad acknowledges and thanks Dr Catherine Coumans PhD of Mining Watch Canada, Councillor Rolando Larracas, and MACEC for their assistance in providing documents and research upon which the following report is based.


The Marcopper mine in Marinduque, Philippines
PHOTO: Courtesy Catherine Coumans, MiningWatch Canada

Grievances
The concerns with the impacts of the Marcopper Mine are broadly shared between four communities, those being from Calancan Bay, Mogpog, Boac, and the mine site itself. Brief summaries of the reported community impacts are provided below.
While the mine was in operation there were cash benefits for the people of Marinduque Island through employment and increased economic activity. However the overall economic performance of the island was consistently ranked by the Philippines National Statistics Bureau as being among the lowest in the country throughout the almost thirty years of mining. With the closure of the mines there is little alternative industry for the people of Marinduque Island, particularly as the fishing industry, which was the traditional source of economic livelihood, has been devastated by severe environmental degradation from the mine. The loss of fishing resources has also severely affected upon food security on the island, as fish is a dietary staple for the Marinduque communities. Placer Dome paid some compensation to fishing communities affected by the Boac River Tailings disaster, however the Mogpog and Calancan Bay communities, who also suffered from tailings spills and continual contamination, have received no compensation.


really cool historical videos.. they are LONG, though. History buffs will enjoy them
http://www.history.noaa.gov/real/cwagner.ram

http://www.history.noaa.gov/real/cwagner2.ram

http://www.history.noaa.gov/real/rwagner.ram

[wanderingbear]

1. Well maby of the 1970ies..

wait a minute..I did live in the 1970ies.. I think... Im not quite sure..

[Lorien]

8. Lol! Kind of like the saying about the '60s

"if you can remember them, then you weren't there" ;-)

I often wished I lived in another time. I think it would pretty much suck being a woman in any other century, though. Yeah, I wouldn't mind going back to the '70s-the world was more congenial then, less materialistic, simpler. I would have loved to live around the turn of the last century as well, but I'm sure that would have been best done as a white guy.

Oh no! My kitten is attacking SoCalDem's Christmas pickle! Looks like he's found something to top those flying underpants, lol!

[SoCalDem]

13. I spent the 70's..being a 20 something, but I must say I do not

remember much of it.. I was not partying..It's all a blur though, and I wish I could go back and do it over.. We moved a lot and had a very ill child who spent months at a stretch in the hospital at Mayo Clinic, so the period from Nov 73 to 1980, I was pretty much on autopilot.. It's really odd too, because my husband remembers most of it, but I was so consumed by the health of our child, that I blocked everything else out..

...

[ikojo]

35. Jen6, I was a kid during the 70s and it was not a less

materialistic time. It was all about me, me, me.

Kids who didn't wear the latest fashions (such as myself)were ridiculed beyond belief.

[LoZoccolo]

2. The seventies.

Oh sure, I was alive then, but not old enough to have a Dirk Diggler haircut or drive a muscle car.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

3. I think I did live then

then again, I think I'm Shirley MacLaine

[wanderingbear]

5. Is that you shirley???

Do you remeber me???

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

14. Which life of mine did I know you in?

I've had so many you know ;-)

[wanderingbear]

17. Wow..Me to..

Ever know a guy with long wild Hair and played the flute???Im always that in all my incarnations.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

19. Yeah I did

There's been at least one in all of my incarnations too!

[tainted_chimp]

4. all the time

I've always felt as though I was born in the wrong era.

[wanderingbear]

6. Ive always felt is if Ive lost something somewhere..

And I cant remember where I put it.

[OldEurope]

7. Sometimes... but then....

... I realize, that those pictures normally show the privileged. I´m from a poor family, and probably at that time I would have entered the country club only as a waitress...

[SoCalDem]

10. True, but even so, it would have been wonderful to see

nature before it was ruined.. The explorers were not always wealthy.. Sometimes the poorer people signed on to these adventures as a way to make a name for themselves and to get away from their hard lives .. I have a feeling that the true aristocrate would not have been willing to slog through the mud and do the hard labor that some of these people did.. They went to places that had not been explored before.. Of course their expertise also led to more people finding out about those places.. Oh well..

[elperromagico]

9. Sometimes I look at the ocean and wish I were a starfish.

Nobody suspects the starfish. }(

[wanderingbear]

18. Star fish Are like just so cool man..

Man if you like forget your frisbee at the beach you can like use a starfish ya know.. Like isint that cool like ya know.

[Zomby Woof]

11. no

They had scary diseases and I haven't had my shots!

I like the present just fine, just wish there were fewer people. :-)

[Journeyman]

12. Miniver Cheevy I am not. . .

nor ever wished to be so. The time alloted me is mine to do with as I may and I intend to make the best of it.



Miniver Cheevy, child of scorn,
Grew lean while he assailed the seasons
He wept that he was ever born,
And he had reasons.

Miniver loved the days of old
When swords were bright and steeds were prancing;
The vision of a warrior bold
Would send him dancing.

Miniver sighed for what was not,
And dreamed, and rested from his labors;
He dreamed of Thebes and Camelot,
And Priam's neighbors.

Miniver mourned the ripe renown
That made so many a name so fragrant;
He mourned Romance, now on the town,
And Art, a vagrant.

Miniver loved the Medici,
Albeit he had never seen one;
He would have sinned incessantly
Could he have been one.

Miniver cursed the commonplace
And eyed a khaki suit with loathing:
He missed the medieval grace
Of iron clothing.

Miniver scorned the gold he sought,
But sore annoyed was he without it;
Miniver thought, and thought, and thought,
And thought about it.

Miniver Cheevy, born too late,
Scratched his head and kept on thinking;
Miniver coughed, and called it fate,
And kept on drinking.

-- Edwin Arlington Robinson

[grasswire]

15. ooh, Edwin Arlington Robinson

WHENEVER Richard Cory went down town,
We people on the pavement looked at him:
He was a gentleman from sole to crown,
Clean favored, and imperially slim.

And he was always quietly arrayed,
And he was always human when he talked;
But still he fluttered pulses when he said,
“Good-morning,” and he glittered when he walked.

And he was rich—yes, richer than a king—
And admirably schooled in every grace:
In fine, we thought that he was everything
To make us wish that we were in his place.

So on we worked, and waited for the light,
And went without the meat, and cursed the bread;
And Richard Cory, one calm summer night,
Went home and put a bullet through his head.

[SoCalDem]

16. Yikes.. melancholy poetry..

good though.. and apropos

[everythingsxen]

20. Do you ever see old pictures and know you had lived then??

I do. :o

[AlienGirl]

21. I know what you did last summer!

[everythingsxen]

22. I know you know what I did last summer...

and you know you thought it was fun. :evilgrin:

[AlienGirl]

23. No, fun is what you'll be doing *this* summer...

Last summer was a drag!

[everythingsxen]

24. Very true...

though I do expect certain elements from last summer will be in place for this summer.

[AlienGirl]

25. Someday I'm gonna find a picture of you

...wearing your Members Only jacket! Let's hear it for weird fashion sense!

[everythingsxen]

26. I don't think you find any of those pics...

I think they were burned by angry russians...

[AlienGirl]

27. You'd be surprised!

[everythingsxen]

28. No I wouldn....

Ack! A ravenous bugblatter beast!

[AlienGirl]

29. Did your Peril-Sensitive Sunglasses just go dark?

[everythingsxen]

30. No..

but my Babel-fish is wriggling around like crazy!

[AlienGirl]

31. At Milliway's, we'll all have a drink together...

Did you ever read my fic about Milliway's?

[everythingsxen]

32. I don't think so..

I sure would like to though..

[AlienGirl]

33. Bah, I can't find it!

It was on the old DU. It was pretty funny though!

[everythingsxen]

34. Well you'll have to tell me sometime..

:D

[arwalden]

36. In A Word? --- "CONSTANTLY!"

Despite the international horrors and warfare of the time, I'm oddly drawn to the 1940's. Fashion, movies, music, cars, homes, decor... ALL OF IT! (Even our Solstice tree is lit and decorated as a retro 40's style Christmas tree.)

-- Allen

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

37. Ruins and abandoned buildings make me sad

Oddly, the structures that give the most melancholy are:

- Abandoned race tracks: as a F1 nut, that's kind of understandable. Take a look at this for instance. More here.
- Factories: I always imagine a thriving family-ran business that got steamrolled by greedy oligopolies.
- Cinema theaters: I can't think of a sadder inanimate object than an abandoned cinema theater.

P.S.: Samantha ROCKS!
P.P.S.: You DO realize how much grief you'd get if you lived in the 40s, don't you?
P.P.P.S.: Edited for typo

[arwalden]

38. Yes... I'm Aware That My Personal Life Would Be Much Different

... but still it's interesting to daydream about.

I understand what you mean about abandoned and run-down buildings. The image of a movie theater in disrepair is sad... even seeing abandoned DRIVE-IN movie theaters is kind of sad.

-- Allen

[SoCalDem]

39. Riverside Raceway was here when we moved to this town

and they promptley bulldozed it for a shopping center that would not actually get built for almost 10 years.. My boys used to sit on the roof of a friend's business and watch the races every weekend.. They still miss the race track

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

40. Home of the 2nd US GP (1960), won by Stirling Moss in a Lotus

http://www.racingcircuits.net/UnitedStates/ca/Riverside1957.html

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

41. More about Riverside

http://home.san.rr.com/fsheff/rirpicts.htm

[SoCalDem]

42. It's all houses & big boxes now..

There was NO reason to remove it.. There was plenty of land available for what they eventually built.. It was a pissing match between two dueling "mall-building" builders.. The one thing that made Riverside/Sunnymead(now Moreno Valley) special is gone and what replaced it is ugly and common..

[flamingyouth]

43. I have a large collection of '20s photos

Some from the 'teens as well. Yes, I would be fascinated to at least take a look around back then. Hopefully someone will perfect time travel in my lifetime! ;-)

[Lars39]

44. Mom showed me an old letter from my grandma from around the early '30's

They really lived out in the sticks then, with no nearby neighbors. She was so lonely, with time seeming to pass by so slowly. The whole tone of the letter just made me want to cry. We tend to take it for granted that we can just pick up a phone and call someone, and that our lives are more jampacked with events, however inane they are.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

45. Look at this and be blown away

Color photography in 1905! Impossible? No!

http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/empire/

How they did it:

http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/empire/making.html