What is your first thought when you see someone wearing a tie?

[yurbud]

[LostInAnomie]

1. What a worthless piece of shit.

He should kill himself.

[yurbud]

2. I was going to ask whether you meant the tie or wearer...

In a sense, he has already killed himself by putting it on--or at least neutered himself.

[reformedrepub]

84. damn

easy on us that gotta wear ties to work.....

[Left Is Write]

88. With his tie?

[Floogeldy]

3. Is it the lead singer of The Knack or Todd Rundgren or someone?

;)

[begin_within]

4. Symbol.... of..... ruling..... class. Must... flee... immediately...

[yurbud]

7. lobot

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

5. Unless one is into autoerotic asphixiation, they belong around wrists.

Actually, I think dykes are really hot when they wear ties (in the fashion sense), so I somewhat take that back.

[NMMNG]

6. Um, he's probably wearing it for work?

:shrug:

[yurbud]

8. as a lawyer or Walmart greeter?

[NMMNG]

16. Could be

:shrug:

Or a banker, doctor, office worker, etc.

[yurbud]

17. how exactly does wearing a tie enhance their job performance?

It is at least a sign of subservience and at worst an attempt at a false assurance of competence and authority.

I think the computer industry, Hollywood, and academia do it right--the people who work dress in a way that doesn't interfere with their work. The people who wear ties literally are what the tie looks like affixed to their neck--a leech.

[NMMNG]

19. I never said it does

It's just one of those things that is common to "business attire". Wearing skirts/dresses and heels don't enhance a woman's job performance but they're expected at most professional jobs.

[One_Life_To_Give]

22. Impressions are nearly everything

Maybe it's a generational thing.

If you can't take time to put forth a clean professional appearance. THat is the way people will remember you and by association your work. As the old saying goes First impressions may not always be right. But thats the way to bet.

Seriously a tie takes less than 30 seconds to put on. And with a proper fitting shirt shouldn't be causing any discomfort.

[yurbud]

27. I would say the impression it makes on people under 55 is neutral to

negative.

How exactly does wearing a tie make you cleaner? Do you soak yours in Lysol? Use it like a washcloth in the bath?

[Midlodemocrat]

81. I'm 48 and I would have to say you couldn't be more wrong.

As people advance in their careers, there are certain expectations and I don't know many corporate types or lawyers or doctors for that matter who make six figures and Don't wear a tie.

In fact, I can't think of one.

[Midlodemocrat]

80. A leech?

Are you serious?

Most professional men wear ties to work. In sales, at the very least, it is expected that the vendor dress one level above the customer. It's a sign of respect to your client that you take the time to dress professionally.

Are women who wear suits and hose leeches also?

[yurbud]

82. I think this will eventually fade out

It came into style at all because people wanted to be posers, pretend to be richer than they are when dressing up became affordable to the middle and lower class.

Now that a suit is not necessarily a sign of having money, it keeps going out of inertia, tradition, and peer pressure.

If someone shows up dressed comfortably, that tells me they do their job well and don't have to depend on appearances unrelated to how they do their job.

If I went to a law office, and all the lawyers weren't wearing ties, I would think those guys were actually working. If they were wearing ties, I'd think they were waiting to take my money.

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

83. I want the guy defending me in court wearing a tie.

Appearances are everything in some cases.

[yurbud]

86. in that case yes. Until he gets in the room, it doesn't help anymore

than a powdered wig.

[PVnRT]

95. Someone's a little pissy

Some of us have had jobs where we didn't have a choice. I guess we're all a bunch of leeches. :eyes:

[ComerPerro]

9. me, in a tie:

[yurbud]

34. date or wife?

[ComerPerro]

41. fiancee, will be my wife in one year

[yurbud]

49. congrats!

[JVS]

10. CROATIA!!!! NOOOOOOOO!

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[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

13. Well, that just served as a reminder of why I'm a lesbian.

Oh and some women wear ties, too.

[swag]

12. Don't let this happen to you.

[Generic Brad]

14. Asshole is not on your list

And although I qualify most days, I have observed that most men who wear ties are not the kind of people I would want to hang out with on my free time.

[ncrainbowgrrl]

15. Other- "I'm so glad I don't have to dress up for work!"

or, when appropriate- "does that person really believe that their tie matches the rest of the outfit?!"

[martymar64]

18. I'm thinking "How the @#%$@ do I get my flash to turn off?"

Not a good day!

[Crabby Appleton]

20. probably get deleted if I posted the whole joke - but it ends in

"will the defendant please rise"

[yurbud]

32. that's worth a thread asking people for the joke to come before

the punchline.

[driver8]

21. "Poor Bastard"...

I hate wearing ties and have never had a job where I have had to wear one. I cannot imagine having to wear a tie to work every day.

I don't even like to wear them the two or three times a year I have to!!

[Dangerously Amused]

23. Ties can be fun.

I work in courtrooms frequently. There is a particular judge who is not only a complete idiot with respect to the law, but a mean-spirited Fundie prima donna asshole as well, who despite the strict separation between church and state has stated that he seeks guidance for his decisions in his religion. Wait, it gets better - His daddy was a judge and he rode in on daddy's coattails. Go figure. Anyway the guys will save their Mickey Mouse or "no bullshit" or other equally appropriate ties to wear on days spent in his courtroom. It's funny as hell to watch the parade of "message" ties appearing before him, a very public privare joke and Junior still hasn't caught on after all these years.

[zanne]

24. On his way to court....nt

[wildhorses]

25. ....the way God intended?!?!?

:spray::rofl:

[yurbud]

33. You never noticed that Jesus was clean-shaven, had a neat haircut, and...

wore a tie?

[wildhorses]

40. the one I know made wine out of water and hung out with whores

but what the fuck do I know :shrug:

and the ER doc's and most of the docs I work with wear scrubs or jeans and one of them wears shorts with hightop sneakers with black with flames on the sides...:headbang:

anyway I voted that the smarmy fucker is probably going to try and sell me something...:puke:

and the people who think he is going far must be REALLY old school:wow:


but, this is the Lounge and all bets are off when it comes to the NET:rofl:

[yurbud]

51. yeah, scrubs have the effect on me that the tie does on old farts--

"that guy must be working hard, or just got out of surgery."

The doctor in a tie just got back from golfing or was monitoring his stock portfolio online.

[yurbud]

75. most tie wearers have something to do with booze and whores, but...

it's not quite what Jesus did.

[querelle]

26. I Wear A Suit &Tie Every Work Day

Working in a rather conservative environment (diplomatic corps) dictates that. Even on Fridays. But when I get home from work, the tie is the first thing to come off, then the wrist watch. I really don't like wearing either.

Q

[yurbud]

29. Is it a country where the suit is a Western import?

I can think of a couple, like the Philippines and Israel, where even the head of state wears an open collar shirt unless they go to a country where all the leaders wear ties.

The only time I thought one of our diplomats (or whatever you would call him in this role) should have been dressed more formally was when Gen. Jay Garner was wearing polos or open shirts while the Iraqis he was dealing with were all wearing suits or equally formal traditional Arab clothes.

[datasuspect]

28. NICE tie, NICE suit . . .

usually an authority type.

many of my underworld type friends associate ties/suits with the legal system/detectives.

whenever i've worn a suit and tie, more people call me "sir" in public (at stores/restaurants/bars).

[yurbud]

31. that's funny--reminds me of the Bushies wanting air marshals to wear

suits, ties, and shined shoes. They protested because they would stand out, compromising the element of surprise if something happened, but the Bushies were more worried about cueing the public that they were doing something than actually doing the thing.

[datasuspect]

35. nothing says "5-0" quicker

than someone TOO clean cut.

HOWEVER, sitting in the cook county (chicago) court witness room area, i saw several detectives awaiting their turn on the stand in various cases, who looked like they came from ALL walks of life: a mid 50ish latino man who looked like a regular worker type, a young alternakid type who looked like a heroin addict--the only difference was the shield on a chain around his neck and the ankle holstered .38 and .9mm on his hip.

appearances can be VERY deceiving.

[yurbud]

52. I would think of those guys as the real cops and the tie wearers as more

likely to be clockwatchers.

[YellowRubberDuckie]

30. Well, at my company, people don't wear a lot of ties...

My direct supervisor does, but I still haven't figured out why. I don't think he likes Polos which is mostly what everyone wears. I don't really think anything when someone's wearing a tie, except that they have stricter dress codes than we do at my job. :shrug: I don't usually think of people by what they wear, unless they're wearing acid washed jeans. LOL
Duckie

[SOteric]

36. Most of the men I work with wear ties.

When I see one, the first thing I think is along the lines of "oh crap, here comes another 2 inches of work for my inbox."

[Starlight]

69. Same here. Ties are normal office attire so I don't really think anything>

when I see one. :shrug:

[LeftyMom]

37. Homer: Hello - oh, great! Mormons!

Kang: Actually, we're Quantum Presbyterians and we've come to see...MY DAUGHTER!

[greatauntoftriplets]

38. Job interview...

Standard joke around my company. Except when it's the controller, when the question is "The IRS???"

:scared:

[peekaloo]

39. Is it a clip-on or did they need help tying it.

[Beausoir]

42. "Wanna tie me up with some of your ties, Ty?"

My husband wears a tie daily. I LOVE men who dress sharp.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

43. when my gf wears a tie...i think about practising democracy

she is so hot in a tie

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

46. Yeah she is. Dykes in ties are hott. nt

[Drum]

62. True dat!

[HEyHEY]

44. I wear ties all the time

A man with no tie has no self-respect.

[JVS]

50. I wouldn't go that far, but ties are good.

Of course if one is wearing a polo shirt, the tie would be inappropriate. But if you're wearing button-down shirts, wear the fucking tie already!

[yurbud]

58. a man with no tie has good blood circulation to his brain

[JVS]

63. I'm beginning to suspect that your fear and hatred of ties is caused...

by not knowing how to put it on properly. Try tying it more loosley.

[yurbud]

66. nope. even when I do wear them, I don't even button the top button

although even then I get overheated and feel like I'm somebody's bitch.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

73. If you can't comfortably button the top button on your shirt --

then your shirt doesn't fit right.

You should consider going to see a tailor.

I wear a suit and tie to work most days -- they're not uncomfortable at all.

[yurbud]

74. it is more the concept than the comfort, but I do prefer an open collar

[HEyHEY]

64. How tight are you wearing yours?

[EFerrari]

45. Depends on the tie. Letterman wears great ties all the time.

A tie isn't just a tie, it's a resume. :)

[sweetheart]

47. depends on the tie nt

[tjwmason]

48. Depends on the tie.

Some ties say "I haven't quite grown up beyond 8 year-old humour", others say "I have to wear a tie for work &c. but I hate them", others say "I have to wear a tie, but I really have no basic grasp of how to match clothes", others say "I like to present a good image, and as part of being well-presented wear a well-matched tie".

I'll refrain from speculation as to which of the above is apparent from my tie-wearing.

[yurbud]

53. the best would be an "I hate to wear them and you should too."

maybe one with a noose pattern, or pictures of sheep being castrated.

[Radical Activist]

54. "Don't trust him."

I wear a tie sometimes. It depends on the setting.

[CatholicEdHead]

55. Think twice

Espically if it is not at a formal event.

[yurbud]

57. yeah, at a wedding or bris, it's just polite

[yurbud]

56. another reason to dislike ties: distance versus familiarity (like clowns)

The trend toward informality in dress and speech in our society isn't an accident.

In the past, formal dress was a way of establishing the status of someone you might see all the time, and was definitely a marker of being upper class until clothes were mass produced. Then when suits got cheap, everybody bought them to look richer, like a fake rollex.

Today, people are so atomized and disconnected from each other that we don't like anything that reminds us another person is our superior, inferior, or a peer than only wants to have a formal relationship with you. A tie is like a wall creating distance. Someone dressed like a friend at least creates the impression that they aren't trying to pull something over on you, and could at least potentially become a friend. The same person in a tie is at best a business contact.

Similarly, living in cities gives people a degree of street smarts, so you know that someone dressed up is trying to take something from you.

Just like clowns. In the past, if you lived in a small town, and you saw someone who hid their identity in funny make up, it would just be a novelty, and nothing more. Today, when someone tries to hide their identity, we assume they are up to no good are we are probably right. Hopefully, FBI profilers will be able to identify potential clowns before they put on their make up and big shoes and kill someone.

[wovenpaint]

59. Why do you willingly wear a noose around your neck?

because that is what it IS-a noose.....I especially dislike the look of just tie and shirt, no jacket. It's a "style" that is in need of changing, imho.

[Floogeldy]

60. Hey, I sometimes have to wear a suit and tie for my job.

I noticed that it sometimes gives me the ability to boss perfect strangers around. Heh heh. ;)

[yurbud]

70. and if you buy a white lab coat, you can make women take off their

clothes--WITHOUT begging.

[baldguy]

61. Poor guy

[khashka]

65. I love ties

Serious tie fetishist, me. A man in a tie makes my knees go all wobbly.

I have a huge collection of them. (Ties, not men, damn it! Chance would be a fine thing....)

I've worn them as ties, belts, armbands, pocket swatches.... I've used them to secure lovers to the bed.......

I have an ongoing competition with a friend as to which of us can find the ugliest tie.... and wear it. I think he's winning, barely.

I've got two new ones.... and I can't wait to wear them.


Khash.

[billyskank]

76. You would have loved lunch yesterday

Both tjwmason AND swimboy were wearing ties. :D

[Spider Jerusalem]

67. Depends on the man, the tie, and what else he's wearing.

I don't really notice so much unless it's a garish or tremendously ugly tie, an obvious polyester clip-on (with a short-sleeve buttondown, those make me think 'Oh, no! A Mormon missionary!"), or it clashes with his shirt/suit/pocket square (assuming he's wearing a suit).

[Jamastiene]

68. Other...

Loosen the damn thing up. You are making me gag. It looks too tight.

That's my first thought when I see someone in a tie.

[yurbud]

72. yep. Good thing is if they are sentenced to death, hang man can just...

staple their tie to the end of the rope. No need for noose--it would be redundant.

[mykpart]

71. I usually just think he's either got a job interview or a court appearance

[ThomCat]

77. That depends. How nice a tie is it?

I don't wear ties often but I own a huge number of them. I like ties.

[nickinSTL]

78. that really depends on the context

n/t

[Patiod]

79. That they work in my building?

Ties are pretty common downtown in a big East Coast city. Probably become rarer as you move westward...

My S.O. looks great in a dress shirt and tie, and will put one on to go out to dinner or to the theater. His boho actor friends razz him about "dressing up", but I like the look.

[Broken_Hero]

85. IRS...

one of the first times, I ever heard my dad cuss was when the IRS men came a knocking at the door...both guys wore suits/ties like the MIB movie...

[Left Is Write]

87. My husband wears a tie four times a week, sometimes five, so...

I don't really think anything of it.

I just bought him two great new ties yesterday.

[yurbud]

89. when he misbehaves, do you grab him by the tie?

[Withywindle]

90. Depends on who's wearing it and when.

If it's a co-worker of mine, I get quiet and maybe say "I'm sorry," because the assumption is he's going to a funeral.

If the guy's really hot, I think, "mmmm, leash."

Otherwise, I barely notice.

[bluedogyellowdog]

91. Amway salesmen

run awayyyy!!!

[michreject]

92. Snake oil salesman

I don't do formal. I'm a Levi's type of guy.

[swimboy]

93. What if the tie-wearer is climbing a mountain?

(On second thought, I might want some of you to keep your first thoughts to yourselves.)

[tjwmason]

96. OK then, I'll keep my first thoughts to myself

;) :loveya:

[NewWaveChick1981]

94. Other

"I wonder if he really knew how to tie that tie or if somebody else did it for him???" :rofl:

[yellowdogmi]

97. Three stooges

I always want to grab it and take a pair of scissors to it. Of course I also have my own lucky tie that has helped me get a couple of jobs.

[LWolf]

98. "When can I go home?"

or "What was I thinking when I showed up here today?" Or, "If he thinks his tie somehow increases my respect for him or his power with me, he's destined to be disillusioned." Or, in my classroom on the first day of school, "What's with all the girls wearing ties in various states of knotting and in various places on their body?" And then, a few days later, "I wonder what happened to the ties?"

[Lowell]

99. Ties for management

cuts the blood flow to the brain so they can make lame decisions. The first thing I did when I moved into an upper management position was tell my staff I wanted them to dress comfortably and get rid of the damn ties. I hate them. They are nothing more than a fancy leash. Might as well have a ring through the nose connected to a chain as wear a tie.