Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Need help in alegbra for my daughter....

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » The DU Lounge Donate to DU
 
rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 03:32 PM
Original message
Need help in alegbra for my daughter....
she thinks this is a misprint in a text book:

-(-6)-|-12|*<-2-(-120)/15>
__________________________

-7 to the second power+|-8|*|7|-(-2) to the fifth power -6



:shrug: :shrug:

thanks a Million
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
GCP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 04:35 PM
Response to Original message
1. Kick for the algebra mavens
I'm not sure what the straight lines mean - it's way too long since I needed to do algebra, and I didn't have straight lines in the stuff I did!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 05:15 PM
Response to Reply #1
3. The straight lines mean absolute value which is usually
positive in most of my experiences.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 06:15 PM
Response to Reply #1
9. Kicked again because I don't need two problems keeping me
awake all night. I have a calculus problem that is blowing my mind tonight. I wish I could see a scan of your original problem.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 08:50 PM
Response to Reply #9
17. sorry....
she did suggest a scan - after I posted it.

but thanks

:)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 04:39 PM
Response to Original message
2. The straight lines mean absolute value...
I would just follow the order of operations: Please My Dear Aunt Sally... Parentheses, Multiplication, Division, Addition, and Subtraction. And remember that the straight lines mean the absolute value of the number, in spite of whether the number is positive or negative.

I am no where near a math whiz, but that is what I recall from algebra. Good luck! :hi:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
terryg11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 05:18 PM
Response to Original message
4. what's the star symbol for?
after the absolute value of negative twelve that star sign, is it for multiplication?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 05:40 PM
Response to Original message
5. That's a tricky one.
Edited on Sun Oct-08-06 05:42 PM by Jamastiene
-(-6)-|-12|*<-2-(-120)/15>
__________________________

-7 to the second power+|-8|*|7|-(-2) to the fifth power -6

For the top part:

-(-6) means positive 6
|-12| means positive 12

6-12 is -6

* means multiply

(-2-(-120)) means -2+120=118

118/15 = 7.8666666666666
So for the top, you end up with -6(7.8666666666)=-47.2

For the bottom part:
-7 squared is 49
+|-8| means +8

49+8=57

|7|-(-2) to the fifth power -6

means absolute value of 7 which is 7
-(-2) means add 2 ^-5/6

That's where I get really foggy on my algebra. I'm not even sure if anything I have so far is right.


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 06:08 PM
Response to Reply #5
8. |7|-(-2) to the fifth power -6 ...then again
without seeing the actual problem that could mean |7|-(-2^5)-6 which would change the problem.

7+2^5=7+32=39-6=33

So, the bottom would be 1881? I'm confrused.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 05:48 PM
Response to Original message
6. -66 and -31, if I read you correctly
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
aePrime Donating Member (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 05:54 PM
Response to Original message
7. I'm not sure what your angle brackets mean
Does it look like any of the below?

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LynzM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 06:46 PM
Response to Reply #7
12. That was going to be my question....
Where, in the numerator, do the parentheses belong? :hi:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 08:36 PM
Response to Reply #7
15. The angle brackets are the way it is printed in the book
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TheBaldyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 06:37 PM
Response to Original message
10. if I interpret your expression right - I have ...
Edited on Sun Oct-08-06 06:38 PM by TheBaldyMan
simplifying the numerator and denominator separately:

-(-6)=6 ; |-12|=12 ; -2-(-120)=-2+120=118

using the above values lets you re-write the numerator (top line) as 6-12*(118/15) = 6-(12*118)/15

re-writeing the 6 as 6*1 = 6*15/15 = 90/15

this lets you put the top line in the form (90-12*118)/15 = (90-1,146)/15 = -1,316/15


the denominator (bottom line) -7^2+|-8|*|7|-(-2)^5-6 uses the same rules as above for subtracting negative numbers an absolute values so ...

-7^2 = 49 ; |-8| = 8 ; -2^5 = -32

these results let you re-write the denominator as ...

49 + 7*8 -(-32) - 6 = 49-56+32-6 = 19 (by calculator)

combining the numerator and denominator gives : (-1,316/15)/19 = -1,316/ (15*19)= -1,316/285

I'd leave the answer in fraction form.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 06:43 PM
Response to Original message
11. 2?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 08:38 PM
Response to Reply #11
16. Yes, the answer is supposed to be 2...
but somewhere along the lines is an error of 1 - she says
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 08:30 PM
Response to Original message
13. Wow, thank you all!
Meanwhile, I had to go, do some yard clean -up.

I will get my daughter now.

be back

:hi:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 08:30 PM
Response to Original message
14. Ok,
Edited on Sun Oct-08-06 08:43 PM by rumpel
She e-mailed the author.

(My alegbra skills have taken a dive into the abyss by now, thanks again)

I'll keep you posted.

be back later

:hi:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu May 02nd 2024, 06:21 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » The DU Lounge Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC