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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:13 PM
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Nancy Pelosi - first woman President of the United States
2012.

That's my prediction.

Unless she manages to make it in the next two years through the removal of Shrubbie McCokehead and Dicky McShotgunYerFaceYouFuck, I predict we'll see her running for the 2012 election and winning.

It is also my prediction that the next president, whoever it is, will be a one-termer, doing an interim presidency like Carter and Bush The First.

And further, yt is my suggestion that, assuming we're still sitting good for keeping control of Congress and the Senate in the 2008 election, we let the Republicans field another president: because that person is gonna inherit so much shit, and so much garbage, and so much awful fucking crap that they will end up taking all the pent-up hate and bile of America and their presidency will be full of spurts and stops and failures.

I say, let a Republican take all that misery and bullshit to further drive that party into the shitter in the eyes of America.

Then, in 2012, America will be ready to elect a woman and a Democrat.

Pelosi and Rabrrrrrr would be the perfect ticket, but I will be busy for all of 2013 and most of 2014, and so will have to decline Pelosi's invitation.

Okay, that last sentence was just for humor - but the rest of it is deadly serious: keep the Congress and Senate in 2008, let a republican have the presidency, watch them burn up and disappear like a poorly aimed shuttle re-entry, and America votes for the woman Democrat in 2012.
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querelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:26 PM
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1. Beautiful Scenario
One can hope. No?

Q
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VeggieTart Donating Member (698 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 11:10 PM
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2. And since when has a Representative ever won the presidency?
Hell, we can't even elect SENATORS to the presidency. I mean, don't get me wrong, it's gonna be great watching wingnuts suck lemons at the prospect of a Californian Democratic female two heartbeats from the presidency, but getting people to vote for her is another matter entirely. They would trounce Hillary Clinton for the same reason (just sub New York for California).
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 08:25 AM
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5. Since when has a woman ever made it to Speaker of the House?
Just because something hasn't been done before doesn't mean it isn't worth trying. Just as much as it also doesn't mean that it IS worth trying just because it hasn't been done before.

If it's a good idea it is worth trying, whether it's a new idea or an old idea.

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liberaldemocrat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 08:33 AM
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7. Abe Lincoln
Abe Lincoln served 8 years as a state Representative and 2 years as a Representative in Washington DC.

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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 11:14 PM
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3. Hillary has a better chance.
;)

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Jennos20 Donating Member (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 11:49 PM
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4. No way!
I would vote Hilary over her in a heart beat!
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 08:28 AM
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6. So would I - but would America? I think there's enough hatred, between
the Republicans AND the Democrats, that she wouldn't stand a chance, unless she was running in a race against a clearly ridiculous Republican candidate - but then, Gore did that in 2000, and look how close that one was? The Republican almost won. And then ended up with it anyway.

But who knows - by 2012, after the Republicans have been made to shut up and, I hope, evolved back to a more human kind of being, maybe the environment will be good for Hillary then. Maybe she would have a chance, and the Rushes and the Hannitys and the O'Reillys and Coulters won't be around any more to rile up the ignorant masses.
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billyskank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 08:34 AM
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8. Good call
What I wouldn't want to see would be a Democratic administration, running a don't let's change things much and upset anybody set of policies, which would result in matters not improving significantly.

What I would want to know of any candidate would be:

1. Will you outlaw torture once again, according to the reasonable definition of the word?

2. Will you pull out of Iraq and commit not to make any more preventive strikes, on Iran or anywhere else?

3. Will you close the concentration camp at Guantanamo Bay?

4. Will you repeal the USA PATRIOT Act?

To sum up, would the candidate's administration return matters to how they were in the year 2000, as close as things can be made. Any candidate who thinks that such a thing is too radical to contemplate is not a candidate I would like to see in the White House.

If that means another Republican in the WH in the mean time, so be it. Especially if, as you point out, a Democratic Congress will prevent them from being too extreme. In fact a sane Republican might not be a bad thing at all.
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 09:03 AM
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9. Rrrrrright on, Rabrrrrrr, but I have one complaint...
The R key on my keyboa d keeps wearing out for some eason.
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kay1864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 10:07 AM
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10. Why wait until 2012?
Impeach Darth and Chimpy, then Pelosi becomes President automatically in 2007.



Yeah, I know the Senate wouldn't go for it, but hey, I can dream...
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 10:20 AM
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11. Because I am not predicting that impeachment will happen
I'm with ya on the dream, though. I'd love to see it as the very first action of the first session.

Fuckin' hilarious!!!!
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kay1864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 10:35 AM
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12. Yah, I'm really on the fence on that now
I think the only way that 16 Senate GOPers (out of 49) would vote for conviction is if the House Dems named Murtha as Speaker before the Senate voted.

And maybe not even then.

Otherwise the most impeachment would do is:
- censure (maybe)
- public awareness of Chimpy's crimes
- Chimpy's ratings in the 20's

but not removal. :(

On the other hand...

After Conyers holds his hearings, the public might push for impeachment, and the House might go forward with it, just because it's the House's duty, in the face of clear crimes.

And another twist...

If the Illinois or California legislatures pass their impeachment resolutions (already written, submitted, and on the floor) when they reconvene, Conyers will have to at least consider impeachment.

/GD

Right right, this is the Lounge, my bad. Now I gotta post a fried chicken recipe or somethin'
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