Freetards support enforcement of adultery laws

[AntiWarPoster]

And not only do they support it, they want physical punishments like whipping and caning, as well

The arguments against criminalizing adultery are prudential ones. Overall, though, I think it's better to criminalize adultery than not to. A reasonable approach to enforcement would be, if someone is living with a member of the opposite sex other than his spouse, then he would be prosecuted. Otherwise, the harm caused to society by police spying on people would cause more harm than good.

Laws against adultery also serve an educational purpose.

As for punishment, I think physical punishments, like whipping or caning, would be the most practical, just and equitable. Fines would hurt the poor more than the wealthy, and jail sentences would punish the family.
90 posted on 11/07/2006 10:17:58 AM PST by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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[YellowRubberDuckie]

1. They really want to be able to tell everyone what they can and can't do...

with their bodies!
:puke:

[AntiWarPoster]

2. I support civil actions for adultery, not criminal ones

Victims of adultery should be able to sue their spouses for emotional pain and suffering in civil court.

[Rabrrrrrr]

3. And let's start with their senators and presidents!

WOO HOO!!

Let the House Cleaning really begin!

[Deja Q]

4. Infidelity is emotional rape.

I've stayed away from people who were married, et cetera, even though I knew it would hurt me. And I knew, to a point, it'd hurt 'my interest' too. But the big picture is, she and her hubby have their own situation and that means "off limits".

Whipping and caning are a bit much, but the core point is, people need to give a damn about each other. The reason why so many divorces exist is because of two things:

1. Marriage is a frivolous concept, that homosexuals have nothing to do with yet are scapegoated as the problem.

2. People, in general, don't give a damn about others. Hell, the parents who take out their children to walmart after midnight while being drunk speak volumes...

Spying is a joke too. Most people who get cheated on usually file for divorce. Put penalties in with the divorce to the creepy bastard who cheated! It's as simple as that.

The people who want to cheat have to remember they are hurting their families. Why don't they think before they drop their trousers?!?!

[AntiWarPoster]

5. what do you mean that you've stayed away from people who were married?

nt

[Deja Q]

7. If I was attracted to her, or if there was an obvious mutual attraction,

I stayed away.

I did not interfere.

I did not get involved.

I did not flirt. And when I was flirted at, I felt honored but had to keep a distance. I tend to take things literally, but I refuse to be selfish and I understand the value of marriage.

She was married and had children and, especially having observed a family who divorced some time before meeting her, I in no way wanted to be responsible (directly or indirectly) for another marriage's breakup.

No doubt she was more than capable in not cheating either and it's men who typically cheat, and we did work together on some work-related things (we were coworkers before she left), but I am no letch and I am not a marriage-wrecker or be any part in the ending of a marriage.

[AntiWarPoster]

24. "and it's men who typically cheat,"

Women cheat just as much as men do.

[Deja Q]

28. Possibly.

But I'm not going to try to fathom why right now.

[Bassic]

10. I understand, but the bottom line is

that if a person decides to have an extra-marital affair, they should be free to do it with regards to the law. Yes I understand what it can do to the other partner, and yes I think cheating on our spouse is morally wrong, but it shouldn't be illegal.

[youthere]

11. just for the sake of argument...

just for the sake of argument..what about the "oath" one swears when they get married? The "forsaking all others" part? There's a penalty for breaking the oath you swear in court, it's called perjury, so why would it be any different for this oath? Again...not neccesarily disagreeing with you, I just bring it up for the sake of argument.

[Shell Beau]

14. Religion and laws do not mix

[youthere]

19. even in some civil ceremonies you make the declaration

that you will "forsake all others". -just adding that again, this is just for the sake of argument.

[eyesroll]

15. "Forsaking all others" is a religious vow--no state requires you to say that phrase.

You don't swear to the state (as you do in court) that you'll foresake all others; you basically swear to the state that you're entering into the marriage willingly and legally.

Marriage is otherwise a civil contract, with a civil remedy (divorce) to end the contract.
If you break a civil contract, you have to pay civil penalties (usually money).

If you do promise your spouse that you'll foresake all others (or that you'll love and honor) -- courts don't generally enforce social promises, which is really what that is. Some states, by statute or common law, allow monetary penalties for unilaterally breaking the marriage contract (i.e. adultery), but most don't.

[youthere]

21. It's up to the officiant (and the couple obviously)

the law says that GOd can be mentioned in civil ceremonies but there can be no reference to a particular religion. So some officiants do indeed add the phrase about forsaking all others-again I'm just throwing this out there for the sake of argument.

[Quantess]

6. They just like the "whipping" and "caning" part!

Those pervs want punishment for being bad. :rofl:

[Deja Q]

8. And not in a good way!

:rofl:

[Bassic]

9. Yeah, like any politician on the face of the planet is going to vote for that.

That must be one of the stupidest things I have ever read. What the fuck does the legality of adultery have to do with their own lives?

Where do they get off telling people how they can or can't live? Pay attention to his definition of the crime, that also prevents unmarried people form living together. To this I would answer FUCK YOU I WON'T DO WHAT YOU TELL ME!

God damned idiot......

[Deja Q]

12. And then we ask why bad things happen.

We don't tell people how to raise kids and then we wonder why there's an increase in juvenile crime and other signs of disrespect toward other people. We can't have a society of prisons! And while for some issues, the illegality of those being dumb, there are other things of which locking up a person is just due.

When does freedom become unbridled anarchy? When is some structure not relevant? When is it germain to advance one's cause by making a mockery of said cause?! (I've seen that happen too and I wonder "Why why why?!")

It is possible to have freedom AND civilization. But freedom begins as an adult. And, as we've seen time and time again, most people like to be just like their peers. The 'Keeping up with Mr Jones' scenario.

I dunno.

[Bassic]

16. On the contrary, I think we abundandly tell people how to raise their kids,

and how to live in general. Just for fun try to keep track for a week of all the things you'll hear from this or that group or this or that expert on anything related to how you live your life, from nutrition, to guns, to smoking, to exercice, to stress-management, to friggin everthing else.

And yet being fat, smoking, being stressed out, while they are all bad for you, are not illegal, nor should they be.

[bullwinkle428]

13. Of course they don't want JAIL TIME...they realize they won't be able to

post when they're behind bars...they just want those beatings on their bare asses!

[tinfoil tiaras]

17. why do they care what people's sex lives are like?

that's kinda creepy, imho. They seem deprived :evilgrin:

[Deja Q]

20. If they're deprived, who's going to help them?

:rofl:

[tinfoil tiaras]

22. certainly not me

:P :rofl:

maybe Ann Coulter or Bill-O could help those poor souls out... :evilgrin:

[LSK]

18. W.T.F.

:wtf:

[Orsino]

31. I can't help you...

...not understanding what planet this came in from, either.

A few years ago would have been a better time to talk about licensing sexual intercourse, for those who like regulating their neighbors' bedrooms.

[SammyWinstonJack]

37. My thought as well.

:wtf:

[Jamastiene]

23. So, many of they themselves would be whipped and caned too.

Sure thing, I say. Let's make the floggings public for them. They should have to live by their own rules for a change. That would be :popcorn: worthy.

[tinfoil tiaras]

25. oh indeed

see all of those freeper hypocrites like Pastor Ted get a taste of their own medicine.

:popcorn: indeed :)

[Blue_Tires]

26. am i the only one that still remembers

those gilded days when conservatives were the big "Personal Privacy/Freedom/Civil Liberties" etc. advocates?

Remember when THEY called US the 'nanny staters'?

Remember when THEY were the ones always making references to "1984?"

Remember when Janet Reno and the Jews were personally coming to smash in their front door, take their guns, and burn their flag/bible?

the list goes on

[Kerrytravelers]

27. Perhaps this is one way to get rid of the fundy leaders.

:shrug: :rofl:

[NewWaveChick1981]

32. A-freakin'-MEN, darlin'!!!

:rofl: Talk about the pot and the fucking kettle.... :P Fundie leaders and ministers have that all sewn up...

[Courtesy Flush]

35. Yep. They'd really be screwn with laws like that

[DBoon]

29. not a bad idea

I am looking forward to the canings and whippings of various adulterous Republican leaders.

[elfrangel]

30. Some states have adultery laws...

I know Arkansas does.

In a case that I am fairly familiar with the wife (was cheated on) sued her husband as well as petitioned for divorce. She got everything she asked for and then some b/c of the infidelity. Don't know how it works everywhere else, but...

[AllegroRondo]

33. Adultery is grounds for divorce in every state

and will certainly be considered by the court in the divorce case. But there are no criminal penalties. ie - he could not be jailed or fined for it.

[Courtesy Flush]

34. Liberalism is the new conservatism

Remember when they used to want the government out of our lives?

[NewWaveChick1981]

36. OK. These are the same people who deride Islam, which has

harsh physical punishments for women who commit adultery. I do not agree with any sort of physical punishment at any time, but what these Freeper idiots are advocating is no better than what they are screaming against. :grr: Hypocrites...