Well, this sucks. Not man's best friends

[johnnie]

Man Killed By Own Dogs

A 40-year-old man was killed early Saturday morning by his two rottweilers, NewsChannel5 reported.


According to the Summit County Medical Examiner, the man went into the basement of his Akron home to break up a fight between the two dogs, when they attacked him.

The Akron Police Department is investigating.

An autopsy is scheduled for Saturday afternoon.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/wews/20061111/lo_wews/10298201




That's why I have birds, they only eat you in Alfred Hitchcock movies.

[LeftyMom]

1. I'm going to place my bet now that the dogs weren't altered.

Based on them being in the basement, I'm going to guess they had no socialization to speak of either.

[johnnie]

3. Maybe

But it wouldn't have happened if he had goldfish.

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

6. Yeah, two intact unsocialized male Rottweilers...nah, nothing could go wrong there.

And I'm a fan of the breed.

There's a human idiot behind most dog attacks.

[johnnie]

7. There is usually a human idiot..

..behind 95% of any killing.

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

8. True.

[idgiehkt]

10. I'd move it up to 99%

I know when those two kids were mauled by a guy's pits about a year or so ago people were chalking it up to a random tragedy because the dogs were in the house and the dogs knocked the door open and attacked the kids. Then it turns out the guy was a dealer and the dogs were apparently guard dogs or something. That one, being that the dogs were restrained, was one I was actually going to chalk up to being an 'accident' but it didn't turn out that way. Those dogs weren't altered either...not that it always makes a difference because my pit mix was spayed and still wasn't okay around kids.

[LeftyMom]

13. Another example, there was case a few years ago in San Francisco.

The parents left with the kid locked in the basement and a shovel wedged under the door handle, and a pair of dogs roaming the house. The boy gets out, the dogs kill him. Oh god, this is why people can't have big dogs in the city, people say. Some breeds are too dangerous to be permitted to exist, they continue. How sad the poor boy lived in such fear of the dogs and that his parents locked him up to keep him safe from them.

Then the following comes out:
The dogs were a breeding pair and the female was in heat (this is a big aggression problem)
The neighbors report that the family's children are often seen punching the dogs
The boy is developmentally disabled, and the mother has left him locked up in the basement with no toilet, phone or care for hours
The boy is locked up while the parents are away to keep him away from the dogs, not to keep the dogs away from him as was originally presumed, because he is sexually abusing the female

So as far as we can tell, here's what happened:
Boy gets out of the basement. Boy tries to hump female dog. Aggressive male dog protects female he has just bred, female jumps in. Boy dies. And people were blaming the dogs, instead of the dog rapist boy and the parents who didn't get him any help or get their animals (who they apparently had no problem with sexually exploiting themselves, being breeders) out from under the same roof as their evil little spawn.

The original story: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/06/12/MNGJND7G5L1.DTL&hw=pit+bull&sn=009&sc=596 which is all most people heard, mentions none of this. So what starts out looking like a case of aggressive dogs turns out to be a case of a disturbed and neglected boy who is a victim of parents who don't appear to give a shit about the children or animals in their care.

[XemaSab]

2. If I had to choose

between a cardinal and a rottweiler, I'd have to think hard about it. :scared:

[skygazer]

4. Chances are good he wasn't their best friend either

Dogs, unlike humans, don't tend to attack for no reason. I would tend to agree with LeftyMom - they were probably not neutered or socialized. They may have been abused - plenty of people think that establishing "mastery" means behaving cruelly toward an animal. Dogs do need to understand pack order and dominance but it needs to be properly established not beaten into them.

Dog attacks are usually the fault of some human.

[johnnie]

5. Well, I'm pretty sure you two are correct

Although I don't know all the circumstances.

[idgiehkt]

9. wow

Amazing a 40 year old guy couldn't fight these dogs off. So sad. I can't stand rotties. One of my least favorite breeds to have to deal with. Give me 5 pit bulls to one rottie any day. Flame me now. Don't care, still won't like 'em.

[johnnie]

11. I just couldn't imagine being munched up by Spot and Fido

I had dogs all through growing up, and it has been my experience that any of them can get nasty at any time. Dogs are crabby.

[idgiehkt]

12. rotties have gotten huge, too, because of breeding

at the first vet I worked at,the only dog they absolutely couldn't work with was a rottie. He was as big as an immature mastiff, I would but him at at least 160-180 pounds, if not more, just humoungous, and they couldn't even give him a rabies shot he was so agressive. That aggression was probably due to 'training' though.

[Boojatta]

14. This shows that even rottweilers have a "kill the umpire" mentality.

The dogs were fighting with each other, but suddenly when someone tries to break up the fight they develop solidarity.

[hedgehog]

15. Yet the first Rottweiler I was aware of was Big Dog Carl from the

children's book. A lot of dog breeds have been ruined over the years as they became the mean dog du jour. Years ago, you wouldn't dare approach a German Shepherd.