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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 08:59 PM
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Question for DU accounting / financial types: What the HELL is the difference between
money and monies?

Is there any? Is "monies" just a pretentious word, as I suspect? I've wondered about this for a long time.

I mean, nobody ever says "how many monies do I owe you?" Do they?

Thanks in advance.

Redstone
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 09:01 PM
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1. would it have something to do with the fact that "it" comes from
Edited on Thu Nov-16-06 09:01 PM by wildhorses
different accounts? :shrug:
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 09:02 PM
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2. Damn if I know. That's why I asked.
Redstone
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 09:06 PM
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3. Good question!
Monies is used in legalese but I can't recall anyone using it conversationally.

Don't ask me about food insecurity. Nobody believes me.
:grr:
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 09:07 PM
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4. Food insecurity! I read about that in the paper this morning! Is it 1984 yet?
Redstone
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 09:12 PM
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6. Actually, I was using the term in 1984 and before.
The media yet again is putting the emphasis on the wrong part of the story. Economists, sociologists, and their ilk have used the term 'food insecurity' for a long time. The issue is really about dropping the word 'hunger.'

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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 09:23 PM
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8. Yes, that's what it's about indeed. When "Economists, sociologists, and their ilk"
use the term, that's one thing. I do understand what it might mean when the "ilk" crowd uses it, and I bet it's a legitimate term when they do.

But when the government uses it to replace the word "hunger," it's another thing entirely.

Redstone
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Kelly Rupert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 09:07 PM
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5. Same difference between people and peoples.
Edited on Thu Nov-16-06 09:08 PM by Kelly Rupert
"Money" is a mass noun, and "monies" is its plural, though it's rarely used except as financial jargon.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 09:27 PM
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9. Context: I saw an e-mail tonight from one of Mrs R's customers, outlining
who an invoice generated by her customer had been adjusted for prior payments, and so on.

The e-mail kept quoting "monies owed to (customer name)."

Is that, then, a legitimate use, or just someone trying to sound hifalutin?

It seems you know what you're talking about, so I'll trust your answer.

Redstone
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 09:17 PM
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7. Monies is just a plural.
It indicates not just one stream of funds, but, rather, all of them. It's more legalese that anything else.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 09:29 PM
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10. The hell does that mean? Please define for me "one stream of funds."
Thanks.

Redstone
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 09:32 PM
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11. Let's say I am buying a house with a mortgage and a gift from my parents.
The seller would want to know all monies I was going to use to finance the purchase.

That's kind of a bad example, but I hope it answers your question.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 09:35 PM
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14. Aha. Now it's starting to become clear. Thank you.
Redstone
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justfred Donating Member (176 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 09:32 PM
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12. It has different meanings...
...but mainly referring to funds in either many diverse accounts...

...or funds from many different sources....
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 09:36 PM
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15. Third answer I've gotten that says that, so it must be the case. Thank you.
Redstone
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 09:34 PM
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13. There's no diff. It's stilted usage that lawyers don't like
to take out of contracts, like "null and void"
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ChoralScholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 02:52 AM
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16. it is different sets of money, referred to together
For example, I can talk about the money in my pocket.
or, I can talk about the money in my Checking Account
or, my Operating Budget
or, my Choir Activity account.

If I want to refer to them all collectively, I would refer to them as monies.

It's like people and peoples.

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