It's time for the annual "dump the South" flamewar in GD again.

[lildreamer316]

I am gonna try my damnedest to stay out of it, but being a second generation Democrat who is a descendant of Robert E. Lee (yep, y'all read that right-gotta love karma!!!); my dander is sure up.
Idiots.:eyes:
Quick! Distract me!!

[Random_Australian]

1. You mean there is a flamewar between the northerners,

and the a-little-bit-more-north-erners?

Because that's what it looks like to me. :)

Anything above the equator is all the same, dammit, and should be purged from the Democratic party before it costs dem tickets the seats in the superbowl game!

You're all a bunch of communist republicans!

:D

[lildreamer316]

5. Yee-HAW!!

Eh, whatta ya do......:shrug:

[hfojvt]

18. Oh go outside

and look at the Magellanic clouds. Dang ya.

We're gonna ship Schwarzenegger back to ya too.

[lildreamer316]

62. ROTFLMAO.

Ohhhh yesss....

[WritingIsMyReligion]

2. ONG TEH SOUTH IS THE SUXXORZ!

ONG TEH NORTH IS THE EELEETEST!11!

:eyes:

[lildreamer316]

3. LOL!!! n/t

[MrCoffee]

4. thanks for the warning...

i was all set to fly to LA to kick the shit out of a certain DUer who made some bullshit "Nuke Texas" comment...

i'll stay the hell out of there for the time being.

[WritingIsMyReligion]

7. Seriously, you can't nuke Texas.

What would happen to Austin?

:P

[MrCoffee]

8. talk about keeping Austin weird...

i think Austin as a setting for a Mad-Max post-apocalyptic nuclear mutant zombie movie would rock.

[WritingIsMyReligion]

9. I have TWO "Keep Austin Weird" and "Austin Music" shirts.

And I've never even been to the place. :P

[ceile]

12. Well come visit!

It's an excellent town. Lots to do and see (especially if you like hiking, biking, swimming, boating.....).

[MrCoffee]

15. swimming! god i miss Barton Springs.

my old college roommate has a house on Lake Austin off of Bee Caves (the bastard)

i wanna go back.

[ceile]

17. Oh, I bet that was sweet pad! n/t

[Kutjara]

70. You mean a 'fly-on-the-wall' documentary, then? n/t

[ceile]

10. I'll join you.

I got deleted once for telling someone who was ragging on TX to "bite me".
I just get so sick of the TX bashing threads.
LA, huh? Never been there....

[trof]

6. I thought that was yesterday. Is it still going on?

Must be a slow topic day.

[Akoto]

11. I live in Florida. Everyone wants to dump me.

:( :cry:

[texanwitch]

13. As a sixth generation Texan I couldn't stay out.

:kick:

[cwydro]

14. I know

I was in there yesterday. Grew up in NC and now I live in FL. The South. The last place people are allowed to prejudge.

[hfojvt]

16. dump the south?

I didn't even realize we were dating?

Wait. Is Kansas part of the south? I'm gonna get dumped. Again. :cry:


Actually, thanks to Thomas Frank and our State School board, I think Kansas got dumped a long, long time ago.

[cwydro]

19. If you decide to wade in there

let me know...we'll strap on our sabers and have at it.:woohoo:

[cobalt1999]

20. I'll fetch the shot gun.

I had family in the Florida Calvary.

[lildreamer316]

21. Maybe later...

we'll see. I dunno if I have the heart for it, or feel like dealing with the "negative vibes".
I'm gonna go fortify my resolve with some sweet tea.

[cwydro]

24. Sweet tea

my my my. Oh yes. Those Yankees better watch out...:hi:

[trof]

22. Get out! You kin to Marse Robert?

Well, dog my cats.
OK, I'll SEE your Robert E. Lee and raise ya' George Washington (me, cousin, not descendant) and Thomas Jefferson (my son-in-law's ancestor through his daughter).

But I AM envious.
An' ROLL TIDE.
Big game this week end.
;-)

[lildreamer316]

23. Oh!

No, I am envious!! That's some serious stuff there!

Nervous about the game. Crossing everything that can be crossed.:evilgrin:

[merh]

25. Here, read this

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/merh/8

Please don't let the flamewars in GD get to you.

Haven't spent time with the dark side at other forums and having lurked at their looney sites, it has become pretty clear to me that 90% of the flame wars are started by their nasty socks. They get off on it, it's their pathetic hobby and they are always bragging about how many socks they have.

[cwydro]

26. Hey, that is great.

Listen I grew up in Charlotte, NC and in my eighth grade year two cities were chosen to participate in the wonderful experiment they called "desegregation". Those cities were Boston, Mass and Charlotte. I was upset, because I was bused across town to another school and my black friends I made during that year were equally distressed at leaving their neighborhood schools. We didn't care about skin color, we just wanted to stay where we could walk to school.

But nothing happened. It worked. In NC.

In Boston, meanwhile, school buses were attacked and small children shouted at and harassed. I remember the news reports of the time and asking my English mother (moved here in the late 50's) why they were doing that to those children in Boston. And my mother just answered that they were ignorant and hateful people that would treat others that way.

So in my young mind, I always thought the NORTH was the bad place.

[Shell Beau]

40. Hell yeah!!

:toast:

[merh]

72. Hey ya, Shell *wavingmadly*

It's so good to see you :hug:

[Shell Beau]

27. What the hell is wrong with some people?

I hate to see this type of stuff. :mad:

[WritingIsMyReligion]

30. We're northern elitists, doncha know?

:eyes:

[Shell Beau]

38. Just like I am an idiot redneck who is invested in my immortal life.

[BikeWriter]

31. #### I have to go look...

[BikeWriter]

33. I backed you up, Sweet Lady. :-)

[Shell Beau]

36. Thanks!!! Some people are crazy!!

[BikeWriter]

42. No doubt, Sweety.

[BikeWriter]

73. I got personal with 'em this time. Some insufferable twit...

:shrug:

[SOteric]

28. I guess DU really is just like a family, then.

And this is very much like spending the holidays getting liquor'd up and fighting on the front lawn.

[BikeWriter]

34. Yep, the Donner wagon train...

[Spider Jerusalem]

29. So, we're (very) distantly related, then...

Lee's wife is a distant cousin of mine (so are Jeb Stuart and James Longstreet...those 17th century Virginia and Maryland roots are rather tangled).

[lildreamer316]

61. Very, Very distant...

'cause my branch has been south of the VA border for several generations. It's there, though.
Ak. That just enhances the idea that we all inbreed, sorta. Eh, screw it.
(BTW, good to see you, noticed you'd been kinda sparse for awhile...)

[Spider Jerusalem]

66. Yeah, we're all pretty much inbred, to a greater or lesser extent...

IIRC, the odds are that any two people of English ancestry are probably going to be related within the degree of 20th cousin or closer, give or take a few generations (but then, it's not that strange when you consider that there were only around 5 million people in Britain in 1600 and there are 60 million now, plus many millions of British descent in the US, Canada, Australia and New Zealand...and there were only some tens of thousands of colonists in Virginia, Maryland and New England in the mid-1600's, who have many tens of millions of descendants now).

And I've been around...not so much in the Lounge, though, really. Good to see you, too (hope things are somewhat better...saw from some of your posts over the past few weeks that you seemed to be having a rough time of it).

[lildreamer316]

71. .....

Thanks for the thoughts...I'm gettin' there. Trying to just wade through it until it gets better.
It's been a hell of a year. I think it can only go up from here.:hi:

[Zomby Woof]

32. When that shit starts up

I am tempted to dig out my old Confederate flag and wave it in their faces.

Although I am a proud native Californian, my father is from Tennessee, and his heritage goes back in Tennessee and Virginia for over 200 years. My great-great-grandfather was under Lee's command at Petersburg before the end of the war. Being descended from Lee is nothing to be ashamed of! He was a man of honor and integrity.

Don't let the Yankee bastards get ya down!

[WritingIsMyReligion]

35. "Yankee bastards"?

:eyes:

:P

[cobalt1999]

37. It's redundant.

Just kidding. :)

[WritingIsMyReligion]

39. You are talking to someone whose relatives have been in Maine since the 1640s.

I bleed Yankee.

:P :P

:)

[cobalt1999]

43. I understand, my family has been in Florida since the mid 1700's.

My great, great grandfather was shot in the leg on the last day his unit saw action in the civil war. Twenty years later, an infection took hold in the wounded area and his last words reportedly were "Well, the yankees finally killed me".

When my father married my mom (who was from Pennsylvania), his mother (think of Granny from the Bev. Hillbillies) refused to attend the wedding because "I'm not going to see him marry a yankee".

There was a lot of bad feelings generated during Reconstruction that is just now fading from the culture.

[texanwitch]

44. My Grandmother on my father's side told me stories about the

Civil War and afterwards.

She was born in 1896 so a lot of the old family members who lived at the time were still alive.

Texas was lucky, we had the longhorn cattle to help us.

The rest of the south had a harder time of it.

[Shell Beau]

47. Being on the Mississippi, a lot of our beautiful cities were burned.

The river was a huge part in the war, obviously. But I hate that some of our artifacts are gone now. Natchez wasn't burned and it is beautiful.

[texanwitch]

48. One of my Great grandfathers from the deep South, I heard a lot of stories

about the Civil War from that view point.

He came to Texas after war to settle, life was just to hard in the hills and hollows after the war.

[Shell Beau]

49. Well, I am sure am glad it turned out the way it did, but

I still wish our cities and such weren't destroyed.

[texanwitch]

53. Destroying the south was not necessary.

I don't think people from the north can understand the bitter feelings that still exist because of this.

The south should have be welcomed back not punished.

The civil war is not that many generations ago. I knew a Grandmother who knew people who lived at the time of the war and afterwards.

When my Grandmother and her famil at family reunions would talk about the old days they used the word Yankee as a curse word.

[Shell Beau]

55. It was just a few generations ago.

I had to privilege to go to Gettysburg last summer. I find any info on the Civil War fascinating! We had a re-enactment not to terribly long ago where the Union and the Confederate actors got into a real fight. They had to call off the re-enactment!

[cobalt1999]

54. I remember my grandmother telling me stories too.

To her family, most of their hatred of the "yankees" was not so much war related as Reconstruction related. The abuses of the occupying army and administration generated almost a 100 years of ill will.

Even Robert E. Lee said "Had I foreseen these results of subjugation, I would have preferred to die at Appomattox with my brave men, my sword in this right hand."

[texanwitch]

57. You are so right.

I remember one story very well.

My Grandmother told me it was very commnon for members of the Union Army after the war to come to people's farms and steal chickens, cattle, and whatever food they wanted.

Yes rape was common as well.

[Pithlet]

45. All you can do

is lay low until it all blows over. You're Yankee scum and probably aren't all that friendly, anyway. You're inferior to the Southerners in every way as I'm sure they'll point out time and again in these threads oh-the-irony, and if you aren't willing to just roll over and take it, you're only contributing to the problem that is the horrific Southern Bashing that the horrible, awful, nasty unfriendly elitist Yankees are constantly subjecting the poor, poor Southerners to. Just go be rude to someone, or something. ;)

[Redstone]

41. I actually once knew a guy whose name was Robert E. Lee. And he was black.

Go figure.

(He was a great guy.)

Redstone

[Shell Beau]

46. That is a little odd! I wouldn't think his parents would be too fond of

that name! But Lee could've fought for the North. They wanted him too!


:hi:

[Redstone]

51. Yeah, I never asked him about that, though it is odd. But we kids in the

neighborhood (which was pretty much all white) all liked him, because he actually talked to us, unlike our parents.

We, of course, all called him Mister Lee.

redstone

[XemaSab]

50. It must really hurt

to suck that hard. :D

No, seriously, I think most northerners who dump on the south have only seen Deliverance and news clips from the '60s.

I love the south.... love the people, love the food, love the countryside. :loveya:

[Shell Beau]

52. The food is good, fattening, but DAMN good!

[XemaSab]

58. Yankee food=

Boiled beef with a little salt, a baked potato, and some overcooked green beans.

:scared:

[WritingIsMyReligion]

60. Which is fucking good!

Ever had a boiled dinner?

:9

:P :P

:hi:

[Haole Girl]

56. Annual? Don't you mean monthly?

:eyes:

[aquaman]

59. I made a big mistake yesterday....

By entering that bullshit. Being from the south I am SO sick of the hatred that some Du'ers seem to have. I actually had a post removed by the moderator for the first time in 5 years. I will never enter discussions about the south in GD again. Dangerous place.....

Anyway, it's Friday, I gotta go down to the honky tonk joint and hang out with Bubba while I worship the republican party. That is what we do in the south you know? Oh yeah, I hate people too, I forgot that since I am from the south I am supposed to hate everybody that is different from me.

Cool.

[everythingsxen]

63. Having been born in FLorida and lived there for 26 years..

Let me just say this:

Yankees, Go fuck yourselves!

[malmapus]

64. So I guess I know between the "Lee Camp" and the "Longstreet Camp" where you stand =)

I'm more in the Longstreet crowd myself, but still admire Lee for the things he pulled off.

[wildhorses]

65. GD where people go to act out

lounge where people go to make out


your choice

[bridgit]

67. yes but, weren't that all stirred up after Carville seemed himself to have...

been pretty much ragging on everything north of north carolina, and east of the eastern bank of the mississippi cause he was for a time there, i know Carville didn't help none; he wants Ford at the DNC, wanted Zell Freaking Miller (of all nut bags) for Gore's running mate, ragged on Dean for what seemed like nothing but spite i mean sheesh...bust out y'all, this is a big ole country it goes all the way out west, south west, north west, mid west, east, north east, all around the town and then some more :)
:headbang:

[barb162]

68. I've never understood that kind of thinking

and I am from the North. You just don't write off a section of the country. I think we have to work on real issues, like unemployment, rather than the moral values GOP line of bull.

General Lee was a great man.

[mcctatas]

69. I don't want to dump the south...

without them, who would make us norhterners feel so superior? :evilgrin: Seriously though, I think we should just scare the hell out of all the trogolodyte "values voters" (who give the south such a bad rep) and push them deeper into the south in fear, until we finally drive them into the gulf of Mexico...Now there's some full immersion baptism that I can really get behind!

[BikeWriter]

74. Where's Skittles when we need her?

:shrug: