Anyone see the "Bartlett for America" poster tonight?

[Catch22Dem]

On Studio 60. It was about 35 minutes into the show when Tom and Simon were trying to talk Harriet out of doing the lingerie ad.

[huskerlaw]

1. Oh my gosh!

I haven't seen it yet (West Coast), but I think that may make me cry.

Bartlet IS the President. ;)

[LSdemocrat]

2. Oh come on now, Give President Santos a chance

He's no Bartlet, but his heart's in the right place and he'll surely come through in the end.

[huskerlaw]

3. ::sticks fingers in ears::

IcanthearyouIcanthearyou...

No, but really. Santos who?

[LSdemocrat]

4. The guy who won the election to succeed Bartlet in The West Wing, season 7

And yes, he is a Democrat. Why couldn't the real world be more like The West Wing?

[huskerlaw]

7. Yeah, I know...

I just so hated how that whole thing was written (I'm a Sorkinist, so anything after season 4 is blasphemy). I love Jimmy Smits, but Santos was so one-dimensional. Ugh.

But of course, given the choice between the real world and one in which Santos was Pres, I'd pick Santos. I'd just far prefer Bartlet. ;)

[LSdemocrat]

10. I actually think Season 7 was better than Seasons 3 and 4

I thought The West Wing started to go downhill fast after Season 2. The show became too inconsistent. For the few great episodes, Bartlet for America comes to mind, there were too many mediocre or even just bad episodes, like The Women of Qumar, Night Five, and Dead Irish Writers. Many of the new characters and plot lines just weren't that good. I thought Sorkin essentially drove the show to the edge of a cliff by the end of Season 4 by writing such a bizarre cliffhanger that guaranteed that Season 5 would be the total disaster that it was. While Seasons 6 and 7 were not necessarily great, I thought they were consistently very, very good.

[MrCoffee]

11. after the 4-5-6 debacle, season 7 could only improve...

i just finished wathing the DVD's of Season 7 (i intentionally ignored the last season when it aired), and it was a return to the good old days of TWW. I was pleasantly surprised, and glad to see the cast get the chance to end the show on a high note.

but WTF was up with all the humping there at the end? even Will & Kate were getting it on. Will & Kate, for the love of cheese!

[huskerlaw]

12. Huh. Well, obviously I disagree.

I think Wells slaughtered the original characters in Season 7.

I mean, really. Josh and Donna finally have sex, but it's treated like a drunken one night stand. Ridiculous, since they've loved each other for 8 years.

CJ and Danny hook up, but only after CJ has told him that they can't do so until after the Bartlet Admin is over--and then we don't get to see how they worked past that.

Meanwhile, we're tortured with episodes that are almost completely about Santos and Vinick. Who cares? They knew the show was ending...why not tie up the characters we already care about instead of trying to force us to like new ones?

Season 7 was ridiculous. With the exception of the episode that Bradley Whitford wrote. That eppie was fabulous.

[LSdemocrat]

13. Wow. I disagree with almost all of that

I thought they tied up the loose ends quite well. I don't really see how Josh and Donna was treated as a one night stand since they ended up together. I also really liked how CJ and Danny ended up. That relationship felt far truer than CJ's inane fling her Secret Service agent.

I also liked and cared about Santos and Vinick, especially Vinick, more than most of the raft of new characters interested introduced from Seasons 3-5.

I honestly generally felt far more disappointed by episodes and characters in Seasons 3-5 than I felt through 6 and 7.

[RFKHumphreyObama]

14. Agreed Huskerlaw

In my country we're up to Season 5 (post-Sorkin's departure) and, while it has had some good episodes, I'm finding it a letdown. They've changed the personalities of so many of the characters -especially Leo, who is essentially an equal tie with Bartlett for favorite character for me) -and the script and dialogue is much too forced and melodramatic.

I'll keep watching and I haven't seen Santos yet so maybe it gets better but Cable TV always shows old reruns of 1, 2 and 3 and I absolutely love most of the episodes that Sorkin wrote. I will concede that seasons 1&2 were the best for me

[MrCoffee]

9. NO! McGarry carried that ticket! I want Hoynes back!!! or Al Bundy for Veep

[Catch22Dem]

5. Yeah, it was great

The funny thing was, I watched like 5 minutes past it, and it finally hit me. I had to rewind back to it, and sure enough, there it was. :D

[Writer]

6. You mean the one Howard Dean ripped off a couple of years ago?

;) ;) ;)

DEAN for America

[Vidar]

8. My vision is failing. Thanks for pointing that out.