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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 08:24 AM
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Peter Jackson Will NOT Be Director Of "The Hobbit" WTF??
CNN just said New Line Cinema and Jackson are in a dispute and New Line is going ahead with "The Hobbit" but has dumped Jackson!

:wtf:
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 08:28 AM
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1. Considering what he did to Lord of the Rings, maybe it's better.
Let someone else take The Hobbit.
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mainegreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 08:29 AM
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2. Uh oh. Did you just say thay?
:popcorn:
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 08:38 AM
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5. You're right
Re-reading the book recently, and watching the movies during the same period, I was struck by how the movies - which I had thought were great - were very pale translations of the book. In fact, if you're reading the book, the movies are almost unwatchable.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 08:48 AM
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7. You do realize they EACH be 10 hour movies otherwise, right?
Seriously, Jackson's films were as good as it would ever get in a movie format. And I've read the trilogy in its entirety at least 5 times, in addition to the Silmarillion.
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 09:46 PM
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13. I have to go with Rabrrrrrr's reply below
Jackson worked wonders, but he also made some huge blunders, and his rendering of the tale is at times rather sophomoric compared to what Tolkein wrought. I understand the limitations of time, but really - he has a certain lack of nuance that pops up again and again. At times brilliant, at others very ham-fisted. I'll continue to re-watch the movies periodically, but I'll make certain not to be re-reading LOTR when I do so.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 09:01 AM
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10. The more times I watch the movies, the less enamored I am.
I was originally blown away by them - though I am aware that a direct, literal translation of the books to films would be an epic undertaking well beyond even the epic undertaking that Jackson took; and though I am aware that not everything can make it into a movie, and so on...

I find some of the acting, and the weird use of slow-motion, and a few other affectations to be disquieting, distracting, and unneccessary in the Jackson films. Even some of the acting leaves much to be desires - and I don't think it was the actors' faults, I think they acted precisely how Jackson wanted them to act.

I grow less enchanted, and see more and more flaws and things that not only could have been better, but SHOULD have been better (even given the limitations of inherent in trying to put such a large-ass story into film, even 13 hours of it) every time I watch the movies.

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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 09:53 PM
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14. Yes, and further
Jackson the filmmaker is not as good at his craft as Tolkein the storyteller. That's not to say that I don't admire his work, but there is a surface texture there that doesn't lend itself to repeated digestion the way the book does.

Are we just setting the bar impossibly high? It seems to me that Tolkein himself did so. (Excepting his generally execrable poetry.)
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 08:36 AM
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3. Maybe his dorkiness went down with the success of LOTR ...
and they need to find another dork with his previous dorkiness level to direct it :hide:.
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warrior1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 08:38 AM
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4. The fans are pissed off too
a letter campaign has begun.
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Frank Cannon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 08:43 AM
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6. After that bloated shitfest that was King Kong...
maybe he really should sit this one out.

Peter Jackson is very much in danger of transforming into another George Lucas. He's already started throwing everything into his movies but the kitchen sink. Now all he has to do is catch the merchandising bug.
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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 08:51 AM
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8. Hey matcom - are you a LOTR fan? My brother in NY is a real fanatic.
All the productions of the Hobbit that I have seen have been wretched animated versions. Jackson most certainly would do much much better. I just hope that newline does not crank out another crappy version.

The LOTR, long as it was, cut out a lot of good stuff. Personally I think the Helms Deep battle scenes could have been a little shorter and replaced with some other material.

:hi:
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 09:02 AM
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11. not obsessed but I think Jackson did the impossible
LOTR was NEVER supposed to have been made. other directors wouldn't touch it out of fear. I think Jackson did a HELL of a good job. Christ the movies couldn't be any longer than they were
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redwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 08:55 AM
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9. What a shame, I love his LOTR movies
nt
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 09:04 AM
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12. There is a lawsuit between him and New Line, that's why NL dumped him
Jackson is in the process of suing NL for one of his movies where his salary was based on the profit. He claims that New Line stinted on the profits reported in order to pay him less.

I think it's horrible that someone other than Jackson should direct those movies; however, I can see why New Line perhaps doesn't want to work with him again especially if they own the filming rights to the Hobbit
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 09:55 PM
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15. I sentance everybody who bitches about Peter Jackson's directing to watch the animated LOTR movies.
I think that's punishment enough, plus they might realize how minor the shit they're bitching about is compared to how badly they were adapted before.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 09:57 PM
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16. This will turn out wonderfully.
Maybe they can get Uwe Boll to direct.
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