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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 02:45 PM
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Question for feral cat protectors
How many of you in Md. feed the snakeheads. Thosed of you in the Great Lakes area: Are you out there protecting the Zebra Clams. And up and down the Mississippi River: are you doing enough to help out those cute native fish eating carp?

An invasive species is an invasive species is an invasive species. They do damage to the natural ecosystems which can't tolerate them.
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 02:48 PM
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1. it is Zebra Mussels, not clams
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 02:51 PM
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2. scuse me.
I gets my Zebra Mussels and razor clams mixed up. I would like to play my senior moment card now. :blush:
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 02:53 PM
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3. Can one TNR and manage colonies of snakeheads, Zebra Mussels and carp?
Apples, meet oranges.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 02:57 PM
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4. Feral cats are not the same type of threat to an ecosystem
And clams and carp are not fuzzy. Not close to the same thing.
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Phillycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 02:58 PM
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5. Well, this should be fun.
:eyes:

:popcorn:
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 03:34 PM
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11. I can't seem to get people to
respond to my threads. LOL
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 02:59 PM
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6. This beautiful girl lived three years feral


Now she lives with me. She's still feral but she's warmed up to me a great deal these past two years.

Delaware has several great TNR groups that are trying to reduce the population by neutering the ferals that live out there and finding homes for the feral kittens they find.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 03:03 PM
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7. nope-- I'm a professional ecologist and I make no bones about...
...caring for feral cats. Yes, they kill small mammals and birds-- but they do it in ecosystems that are already degraded by removal of natural small predators-- including native cats. Their primary opponents are human sensibilities-- the very human sensibilities responsible for their presence and for the condition of the ecosystems they live in.

Cats are not to blame for needing to eat and breed.
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huskerlaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 03:04 PM
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8. Are you begging to be flamed...
or do you seriously believe your comparison makes any sense whatsoever?
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 03:08 PM
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9. I am. I invited a fish eating carp to come live with me last week
putting out food on the bank, hoping to lure it into my house where it will become an Indoor Only Carp.
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 03:32 PM
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10. I admire your ambition
My dad did that with a squirrel when I was a kid. When the squirrel came in following the trail of pecans, I thought it would be a good idea to slam the door shut. The squirrel rippeknocked over several vases and ripped up the drapes before we got it out.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 03:38 PM
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12. 1 of my cats brought in a chipmunk for the night. Had a terrier experience also
came home to terriers and cat sitting in a row staring at a poofy chair. Got the mouse out without much problem. That chipmunk spent the night in my closet in my bathrobe pocket. Did you know chipmunks are rodents? I hadn't thought of that until I put my hand in my robe pocket.

I'll let you know about the carp.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 04:05 PM
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13. My indoor cat has cleaned up the songbird gene pool...
...by getting rid of dumbass songbirds to stupid to know better than to sit on the windowsil by the home of an indoor cat crafty enough to figure out how to catch songbirds on the outside
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 04:28 PM
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14. My indoor cat just looks out the windows and makes a chirping sound.
I call it windoe shopping.
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 04:41 PM
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17. Darwin's Razor
n/t
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 04:30 PM
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15. Yeah, but cats are cute
Therefore they are better.

I'm surprised that the Cat Worship Brigade has not shown up yet. Maybe they just put you on ignore rather than responding.
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 04:40 PM
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16. Oh, they are showing up
and I love cats too ... and I'm just as mischevious :evilgrin:
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China_cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 04:42 PM
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18. Would you have me give up my dog because she
jumped up to play with a low-flying grackle, caught it and accidently killed it?

If cats were really such a danger to wildlife, there would be none left already due to the hundreds (thousands?) of years that cats were nothing but feral with no spay/neuter programs and producing at least 2 litters per female per year.

The danger to wildlife is US. We take away their habitat and then want to blame other species for it. Your logic is the same as those who blame the grizzly bear for the depletion of the salmon, seals for taking too many fish, etc.

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