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spillthebeans Donating Member (486 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 12:55 PM
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She said no
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BarenakedLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 12:56 PM
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1. Ouch
That had to hurt.
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spillthebeans Donating Member (486 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 01:15 PM
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3. girls have sometimes multiple boyfriends, too
...
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 02:01 PM
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9. Well, he may have been a dick for proposing in public...
but some girls just need more than one too. :shrug:
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spillthebeans Donating Member (486 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 02:14 PM
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15. I was wondering if the black guy at the end of the clip was her new one n/t
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 12:57 PM
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2. lmao!
ouch. poor fella.
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 01:24 PM
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4. Oh man, that's harsh n/t
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 02:01 PM
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8. She's only human.
Then again, so is he.

Just another reason to not bother with relationships. :shrug:
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 01:28 PM
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5. That's fucked up.
That's REALLY fucked up.
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 01:39 PM
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6. And that is why I hate public proposals. How dumb.
Now, the dude is embarrassed beyond belief. And the woman was faced with saying no and being a "bitch", or saying yes to save him embarrassment. Who won in this scenario? :shrug:
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L A Woman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 02:08 PM
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12. i agree....and i would never say yes to a man who proposed in public...
because for one thing, you have to wonder what is sacred to a guy like that? is he the type who talks about your sex life to everyone around, too? probably. a marriage proposal should be a special, sacred moment between the two people.

i have no pity for that dude.
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 02:21 PM
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20. If I cared for the guy but wasn't sure of my answer, I'd say yes just to
spare him the embarrassment. Then I'd break it off the next day - all of those people watching at the arena would be none the wiser. But if the guy was giving off 'creep' vibes, I'd have done the same thing she did.
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Bassic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 02:23 PM
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22. Self delete
Edited on Tue Nov-28-06 02:24 PM by Bassic
CAn't find a non-inflamatory way to say what I mean to say in a non-inflamatory tone.
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Bassic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 02:19 PM
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17. He did apparently
She ran off into some other guy's arms, so at least now he knows.
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 02:26 PM
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23. She did not "run off into some other guy's arms". That guy was obviously a
security person or something.
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Bassic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 04:42 PM
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52. On closer examination, I think you're right.
Still, it's got to hurt.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 02:31 PM
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25. I was just about to post the same exact thing
I don't blame the girl for running out of there. Not everyone likes the Public Displays of Affection
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 02:00 PM
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7. "a pair of tickets"
So that's what they're called now? :wow:

And to answer the MC, she's hot... :evilgrin:

amd why does the chevychase mascot look like a big sperm?

Sorry, my emotional circuit is on the blink. All I can say is, maybe she'll find a guy who'll appreciate her more. :shrug:

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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 02:05 PM
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10. I know I shouldn't laugh, but that is funny as hell
Although sometimes you are damned if you do and damned if you don't. Then again I don't know the circumstances, this guy could have just met her a month before and was a bit too pushy. Who knows what happened, but it worked out good because I got a laugh out of it. :)
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 02:07 PM
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11. A logical possibility, yes.
When a person thinks they've found the 'right other', they probably can become too... enthused? I've been a little enthused myself on a couple of occasions... I thought it was real, but the other person had other plans. Ultimately, "it's life". Gotta get on with it when the bad times happen.
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 02:09 PM
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13. thank god, i was feeling like the jerk for laughing...
i'm not the only one who thought that was hilarious.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 02:11 PM
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14. I will agree the guy was a dick for proposing in public...
it was probably more an egoplay on his part.

Still, I doubt they let him dress up as a big X-chromosone hawking "Chevy Chase" for free...
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 02:37 PM
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32. i'm not sure i follow...
you think he paid money to do that? i'm guessing he had a buddy, or just called the stadium offices and asked them if he could propose. they love stuff like that. usually gets a big cheer, makes the fans feel good.

he's a tremendous dick for doing that. i was laughing at him, not her.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 02:59 PM
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46. You can arrange that stuff at most stadiums
I know you can in Philadelphia. There's usually a cost for it but it definately isn't something where you need a connection.
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 03:01 PM
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47. they charge a fee? people pay actual money to propose that way?
i'm in shock.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 04:45 PM
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56. YEP - I've been to games where it has happened
Most of the time it's just the cameras flashing on you when you propose or a message will show-up on the scoreboard, rarely have I've seen anything as stupid as that video though. Perhaps if I shared Eagles season tickets with the man I want to spend the rest of my life with I would tolerate a tasteful in-stadium proposal. But nothing like the humiliation that girl was put through!
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Bassic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 02:21 PM
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21. I didn't laugh,
but I can see how it can be funny.
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 02:40 PM
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34. Well, I wasn't breaking ribs..lol
It was more like a "Yeow-ch" kind of chuckle.
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Bassic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 02:17 PM
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16. Ouch.
That's cold.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 02:19 PM
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18. She's only human.
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Bassic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 02:21 PM
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19. If the roles had been reversed and the guy had
run off into some other woman's arms, would you let him off this easily as well?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 02:43 PM
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Bassic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 04:27 PM
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50. No I'm not high
Edited on Tue Nov-28-06 04:49 PM by Bassic
but thank you for insulting me solely because I disagree with you :hi:
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 04:41 PM
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51. Treat 'em both the same.
Forgive my apathy (and delayed response). I no longer know what's right. I'm just going to live through things the best I can.
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Bassic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 04:46 PM
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57. Don't we all? nt
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 05:07 PM
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59. I'll admit I don't.
I am biased toward more issues than others.

I'm "reprogramming" myself to ignore the concept of relationships. My current knowledge of the concept has been proven inaccurate. It is better for me to avoid the concept altogether.

Now we'll see if I can get even a one night stand. (betcha I won't.)
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Little Wing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 02:40 PM
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36. Cold is pulling a cheap stunt like that off, and putting her in the spot
like he did.

It's also rather arrogant.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 03:05 PM
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49. AMEN
:yourock:
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Bassic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 04:45 PM
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55. He may or may not have been wrong about doing that, but
in any event it's got to hurt. But from the general feeling in this thread, I guess his own feelings don't count as much as hers. I don't mean this as a snarky comeback, I'm just pointing it out.
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Little Wing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 05:05 PM
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58. And on the other side, doing it this way made it seem like it was more
about him and his ego than her and her feelings.

Sure, it's crappy to get shot down. Perhaps itwould've been wise to ask her beforehand, a month or a few weeks, if she was okay with being 'surprised' with the question. Does anyone these days go into popping the question blind?

It sucked for everyone. I'm not solely siding with the girl, but I do wonder about the motivations of these public surprise engagement questions.
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L A Woman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 06:24 PM
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61. his feelings DON'T count as much as hers...
HE is the one who made the decision to embarrass her in front of thousands of people. HE is the perpetrator of the situation. she did nothing but react.

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Bassic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 02:30 AM
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65. Yes, the evil, evil man.
:eyes:
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 02:31 PM
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24. There were at least a dozen different ways..
..she could have handled that better. A simple maybe, or whispering in his ear, "Thanks but no thanks.." perhaps? Instead, she just ran away like a 5 year old. He's lucky he's not marrying her, if you ask me.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 02:32 PM
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26. I think she's lucky she ran away
That was the dumbest proposal I've ever seen. I would have ran too. What happened to tasteful moments for the big question.
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 02:34 PM
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27. There's no excuse for embarrassing another person..
..in front of thousands of people...when it's something like a marriage proposal.
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 02:34 PM
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29. who embarrassed whom?
if anyone had the right to be embarrassed there, it's her.
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 02:36 PM
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31. Well, I see I'm outnumbered here......
....I guess public humiliation was his fate...for loving her.
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 02:39 PM
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33. for a public proposal when she didn't hesitate for a second to say no?
i've never heard of those people outside of a one-minute video clip, and i automatically draw the assumption that he's totally clueless about their relationship. she didn't even flinch when she told him no.

he was showing off.
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L A Woman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 02:48 PM
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40. i didn't think she was saying no to the proposal...but rather
saying No to WHAT he was doing....like, "NO! Don't you dare propose to me in front of all these strangers!"

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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 02:51 PM
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43. the divergent opinions as to what happened is pretty interesting
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 02:52 PM
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44. How can you call it love when you can't even bother to find out
if she'd like something like that done to her. I'm sorry we're all jumping on you, but he was the dumbass for not at least feeling her out to see if she would dig something like that OR if marriage was something in the near future.
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 02:53 PM
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45. i agree, LynneSin...
to be THAT oblivious about someone you want to propose to...i think she did exactly the right thing.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 02:43 PM
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39. But who was embarassed
I would be extremely embarassed if someone proposed to me in front of a major crowd like that (I'm guessing it was the MCI Center in DC). And what makes it even WORSE was she had to get on the floor searching for some giant stuff animal while blindfolded, perhaps she might not have been as unreasonable if he just did it in their seats. Clearly that man knew nothing about what that girl liked or disliked. She should have run and fast!
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 04:43 PM
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53. On both sides.
Agreed; the guy shouldn't have done it - he probably saw all the tv specials and clips where it was successful and thought he'd do the same.

He did open himself up for rejection. And in a pretty big way.

I can't laugh at either of them. Especially when the clip lacks the context.
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 02:34 PM
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28. She was taken by surprise, in front of an arena full of people.
I can't blame her for not having the presence of mind to handle it better.
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 02:35 PM
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30. And, then, how will she react to life's other stressful moments?
It just showed a complete lack of character on her part.
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 02:40 PM
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35. I'm not going to judge her character on a single moment -
particularly a moment when she was surprised and likely embarrassed. She probably wasn't thinking clearly. I can't say that I would be.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 02:48 PM
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41. Sorry wrong this was nothing more than embarassment & humiliation
I deal with stress all the time, this was NOT stress. This was sheer embarassment that she had to go running around the MCI center floor blindfolded in one of those corny contests looking for a mascot. Then when she finds him he pops out of the mascot with an engagement ring.

That had absolutely NOTHING to do with stress whatsoever, this was pure embarassment and I would not want to marry anyone who finds humiliating me in a very public place with cameras all around me.
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GirlinContempt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 02:41 PM
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37. I think it says a lot about the dude
he's proposing to someone without even knowing them well enough to know, well, first if they'd say yes, but also how they'd handle that kind of situation, how they feel about that sort of thing.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 02:50 PM
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42. It says alot about the dude that not once he'd try to find out if she would
like something like that or freak out.

My one long-term relationship, we were at a game where someone proposed and it was broadcasted on the scoreboard. We joked around but discussed the concept that neither of us would ever do anything as embarassing to each other.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 05:19 PM
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60. Aye - It Was Amazingly Inconsiderate of Him
If I were her, I would have said 'yes.'

And then, after the game, after the ride home, I would tell him the engagement was off already and have let him have it.

Even when you know a proposal is coming, you expect it to be somewhat romantic. Not at a freaking half-time in front of thousands of beer-swilling, revved-up basketball fans! It's not for him, it's for her. If he can enjoy it, so much the better, but this guy was thinking only of himself.
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SacredCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 03:05 PM
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48. I couldn't even watch that all the way through...
knowing what was coming. How embarrassing for BOTH of them.

I'm not going to pass any judgement here, since there's no way of knowing the whole story.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 04:44 PM
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54. it looks fake, like a set up and if not i really, really dislike those spectacle
"Marry me?". Those stunts are about the person asking, "wow i'm such a romantic cool guy who really thrives on attention so i must go for big gestures." Christ how cynical am i?
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jmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 06:34 PM
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62. The NBA has faked this kind of thing before
Edited on Tue Nov-28-06 06:36 PM by jmm
so I wouldn't be surprised if this is a hoax too.

Having said that, if this was real then it is unfair of him to put her in that awkward position where she would be pressure to say yes.

Edited to add a link to a story where the NBA faked this kind of thing-

http://myopiczeal.blogsome.com/2005/02/14/wedding-proposal-at-magic-game/
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jmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 06:41 PM
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64. The Wizards admitted this was not a real proposal
http://www.nba.com/wizards/news/spoof_proposal040225.html

Spoofed Proposition
Wizards pull engagement prank during game at MCI Center
By Brian Sereno, WashingtonWizards.com
February 25, 2004

.....

Too late for Valentine’s Day, and too early for April Fools, nobody knew whether the “proposal spoof” was real.

To be sure, it was not, but the prank garnered the attention of the national media and tales of the tomfoolery spread far and wide. On nationally syndicated television and radio shows, the story was told, hashed and rehashed in an attempt to get to the bottom of things.

All the while, the game operations masterminds behind the spoof delighted at the flawless execution of their gag that tugged at the heart of all.

“Many times in NBA arenas you see marriage proposals that result in a happy couple,” said Ann Nicolaides, Vice President of Marketing for the Wizards. “We thought it would be fun to see the fans reaction if a marriage proposal went badly. Judging from the response we’ve had, I think we got everyone’s attention!”

There is no word on whether the actors will make a return engagement at MCI Center, while the national spotlight shines on America’s next celebrity couple.

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Bassic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 02:32 AM
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66. Ah well.
This pretty much makes this whole flamewar useless. Assuming any flamewar can actually become useful to someone.
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mac56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 06:37 PM
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63. "So besides that, sir... how did you enjoy the game?"
Edited on Tue Nov-28-06 06:38 PM by mac56
nm
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 02:35 AM
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67. "Looks like it ran just a little bit cold" - putting it lightly (nt)
Edited on Wed Nov-29-06 02:37 AM by ih8thegop
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