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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 06:14 PM
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I am going to rant... and it just might be about YOU ;-)
I will start this rant by telling you about a friend of mine. This friend has spoken publicly about a controversial issue, has appeared on various television programs and has garnered a lot of press recently. His opinions on the issue are strong enough that he literally has hate sites online dedicated to disparaging him personally and professionally by those who disagree with him. Perhaps you have experienced being hated before - but I guarantee that you have experienced nothing like this. After having your character publicly attacked, your intentions recolored to fit a malicious stereotypical profile just because you happen to be of a particular profession, and having individuals who don't know you actively pursue having you removed from your job, you then will understand the true nature of HATE.

As humans occupying this planet, we have many failings, but the worst of those is failing to admit that that we are irrational creatures, and that this irrationality drives us to pursue beliefs that don't comport with available evidence, nor stop to listen to contrary opinions. All of us carry the imminent potential of irrationality, and because we fail to acknowledge our individual irrationalities, we project that irrationality onto others. ("THEY'RE the problem, not ME.")

Our irrationality also fuels a strident need to protect oneself: our interests, our beliefs, and our goals. We are the centers of our individual universes, and this selfishness fuels much of the hate I referred to above. It's a hate driven by the irrational, yet human need for self-preservation.

The Internet culture magnifies this irrationality twenty-fold. Only on the Internet can those who are extreme and irrational express their discontent publicly and group with those few others who also feel the same. A fragmentation of interests has arisen in our culture - each of these groups clamoring to dominate the day's agenda and public discourse. ("MY needs take precedence!") Many call this identity politics, and I agree. A particular group stridently politicizes its importance in order to garner political pull.

I have posted many strong opinions on DU, and have experienced many nasty exchanges with those who have disagreed with me. Admittedly, I'm rough around the edges at times and rather assertive. But I'm human. I have many failings, but that is not all of me. Referring back to the friend I discussed above, if his detractors actually met him and experienced him as an individual, they'd find a complicated, emotional, and friendly man who believes just as firmly in his cause as they do. But they refuse to afford him that opportunity. They refuse to see past their hate. Over the last several months, I have gotten into spats over racial stereotypes, woman's body images, public breast feeding, and an assortment of other very individualized issues. And each time I discover that (and I certainly am not innocent here) that the conversations take a nasty, personal tone that transcends the topic and resorts to HATE as a means of discourse. But the truth is, hate never functions as a form of discourse. Hate merely divides, and the two arguing resort to castigating the entire person instead of finding common ground. If you ever met me in person, you'd find that I smile often, am quiet (perhaps shy) and an obsessive thinker. I am a whole person, and wish to be judged that way, as I struggle everyday not to judge others - even those with whom I've angrily disagreed. I am certain that everyone on DU, or those speaking publicly for that matter, wish to be judged similarly.

So please forgive my rant. I needed to get these thoughts off my chest.

Writer.
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 06:16 PM
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1. *click* Edit --> Find (on this page)
type: "matcom"

"No results found"

nope i'm off the hook :D
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Pale Blue Dot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 06:19 PM
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2. Spot on.
:thumbsup:
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 06:21 PM
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3. Been there.
Try being hated in your community because you advocate for disabled children.

It's fucking unreal.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 06:24 PM
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5. The fucking loser-with-no-life assholes will attack ANYONE for ANYTHING.
They really will.

I wish I could be down there to help you deal with them. I'd only have to do it once, and they would not bother you again, believe me.

Redstone
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 06:42 PM
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8. God, I love you.
Seriously, I do.

I held my own. I *dared* to question why certain aides were IMHO mistreating the special ed. kids and ever since then the asshole assistant principal had it in for me. Never mind that he was cheating on his wife with a married third grade teacher. *I* was the enemy. :eyes:

You might remember, I had to get a fucking attorney to get this assholish assistant principal off my back. He was trashing me at every turn for...get this....volunteering in the special ed classroom. OOOOhhhhh, I am SUCH a bad person.

It all came to a screeching halt when I had Mike go in with me to fight this asshat. He's very calm, (unlike his wife) and he flat out said, no contact, no comments or WE WILL SUE.

It must have made an impression because he's left me alone. Can you imagine the wasted energy? All because I was angry that an aide was being nasty to on of my little Down Syndrome friends. It makes me sick.

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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 08:09 PM
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9. "One more word, and the next conversation you have will be with my attorney."
That sentence DOES work wonders, doesn't it?

Redstone
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hsher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 12:45 AM
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13. NOT ALWAYS
I had to actually get the attorney to stop my trashtalker stalker. Only when a letter was issued on his stationery, and after the police in her city took her in for questioning, and after she lost her job for using their equipment to post online skank about me, THAT shut her up.

Temporarily.

She's back and sent me a threatening message saying I brought my "misery" on myself. My new attorney is drawing up papers to sue her into the stone age. Perhaps when I own her home, her car and her computer she'll finally stop.

But telling them you have an attorney only stops the sane ones. There are the insane.
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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 10:37 PM
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10. Sounds like you were dealing with one of those cover-his-ass-asshole types.
I'm so sorry. :( It sounds like you really were trying to stick out for a child but the principal was much too concerned with keeping up appearances.
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 06:49 PM
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17. writer
i LIKE you...........................
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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 08:00 PM
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18. I like you, too?
:shrug:
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 06:22 PM
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4. I've had that happen to me. Want to get hated? Try ripping down illegal signs
(remember all those "work from home" signs?) and see what happens.

Sign spammers are a truly vicious lot of losers.

Redstone
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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 12:36 AM
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11. I had no idea those were illegal...
but now that I know, I won't mind ripping a few down myself.
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 06:25 PM
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6. Good rant.
I find myself so disappointed when a thread with great possibilities for discussion ends up with one (or more frequently, several people) descending into name calling and flamebaiting. I've noticed more than one person who NEVER seems to post without an insult or a curse word attached. Perhaps these people think it makes them look tougher. Well, it doesn't. I was taught that cussing all the time shows a true lack of vocabulary. In real life, that has certainly held true...I'm fairly certain it holds true in virtual life as well. Of course I curse, but not every fourth word...and I certainly try to refrain from name-calling.
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hsher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 12:52 AM
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14. Amen, Cwydro
:kick:
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otherlander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 06:35 PM
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7. That wasn't about me at all!
Seriously, though, you're absolutley right. K&R.
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hsher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 12:42 AM
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12. Been there too
This is a trend that needs to die.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 01:07 AM
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15. no forgiveness needed, my sweet
you ROCK!!! :hi:
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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 06:20 PM
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16. Thank you. n/t
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