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Tue Jan-06-04 02:34 PM
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Hall of Fame - Molitor and Eckersley in, Sandberg gets JOBBED |
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http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1701698No Sandberg, Dawson, Sutter, Lee Smith - do I watch the same sport as these voters who are alledgedly more informed than I? And yet people think we should just let them decide who is the best in college football...
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Tue Jan-06-04 02:39 PM
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1. What are these people smoking? |
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Let me see...vote in Eckersley, but leave out three guys that revolutionized the position he played (closer). I'm confused.
Sandberg got jobbed, too.
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Tue Jan-06-04 03:05 PM
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2. What no Cubs how dare they? |
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Is Bartman eligible yet?
Sandberg definitely should be in there.
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GOPisEvil
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Tue Jan-06-04 03:06 PM
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3. Eckersley was a Cub, wasn't he? |
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Back when he was a mediocre starting pitcher? :D
I'm still mystified that he gets in before Sutter, Gossage and Smith.
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Tue Jan-06-04 03:09 PM
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4. Not sure how Molitor got in and Sandberg didn't |
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Of course, neither Gil Hodges or Maury Wills is in the HOF and Phil Niekro and Don Sutton are.
Go figure.
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Tue Jan-06-04 03:15 PM
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7. Molitor had 2400 hits. Sandberg did not and IMO had 2 great seasons |
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but the rest was as a above average player. He's no match to Molitor. Look at the numbers and how many world series each of them has been in.
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Tue Jan-06-04 03:16 PM
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8. Are you sure about Molitor's hit total? I thought he had over 3000. |
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3000 hits is a sure ticket to Cooperstown.
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Emboldened Chimp
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Tue Jan-06-04 04:09 PM
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12. Molitor had 3319 hits and lifetime BA of .306 |
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Tue Jan-06-04 04:17 PM
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14. I meant to type 3400 hits. OOPS! |
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MAveRiC knows better than that being the stat junkie that I am.
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Tue Jan-06-04 04:44 PM
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17. You need to look at his stats again, chief |
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http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/player.php?p=sandbry01Hit over .300 5 out of 16 years Hit .285 for his career 282 career home runs 6 years of 2+ home runs 2 100+ RBI seasons NINE STRAIGHT Gold Glove awards 1 MVP award But, no he was an above average player only :eyes:
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Tue Jan-06-04 04:38 PM
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16. Molitor is that much better |
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While both deserve to in the HOF, Molitor was the better player. Espn.com had a great article about Molitor by Jim Caple, including a jab at the HOF for being notoriously Republican.
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Tue Jan-06-04 03:12 PM
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Tue Jan-06-04 03:14 PM
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6. I'm still peeved Davey Concepcion hasn't been put in the HOF |
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He was one of the most outstanding shortstops of his era, a golden glove winner and a member of the Big Red Machine.
I'd just like to see Davey get in with the other Big Red Machine HOFers - Johnny Bench, Tony Perez, Joe Morgan and Sparky Anderson (and eventually Pete Rose - who would have been there ages ago)
At least he's still getting the 5% needed to stay on the ballot. I can see him getting in when he moves to the Veteran's section list (which is after your name has appeared like 15 times on the ballot)
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Tue Jan-06-04 03:17 PM
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I won't mention another member of the Big Red machine who isn't in but Davey surely should be. Good call.
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Tue Jan-06-04 03:53 PM
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10. I think its time to modify the Baseball Hall of Fame |
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This is my plan; tell me what you think.
Divide the Hall of Fame into two sub-halls: Elite and Standard (or whatever you want to call 'em).
The Elite Hall would be where guys like Ruth, Cobb, Dimaggio, Mantle, Mays, Aaron, etc. would go. The best of the best. The absolutely unquestioned best players of all time.
The other Hall, the Standard Hall, would be where all the other guys go. That way, Molitor goes to the Standard Hall and you could make a good argument for Eckersley to make the Elite Hall.
Anyway, that's my idea and I'm stickin' to it.
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Tue Jan-06-04 04:21 PM
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I'd say you could make a better argument for Molitor to go to an "elite" hall than Eckersley.
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Tue Jan-06-04 04:07 PM
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11. Goose only got 40%???? |
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Tue Jan-06-04 04:15 PM
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13. What is with the ESPN headline? |
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That's pitiful. They talk about the shrinking number of Pete Rose write-in votes instead of Molitor and Eckersley? Give me a break.
Congrats to Moli and Eck! I wish Sutter had joined 'em.
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Tue Jan-06-04 04:59 PM
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18. has the veterans committee elected Gil Hodges yet? |
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if not, it's an ongoing disgrace . . .
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