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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 02:25 PM
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Lay it on me...give me some deep quotes
I want to think some deep thoughts right now. Any quote about anything will do.



Here are some on forgiveness I just pulled of one of my favorite quotes page:

Anger makes you smaller, while forgiveness forces you to grow beyond what you were.
Cherie Carter-Scott, "If Love Is a Game, These Are the Rules"

If you haven't forgiven yourself something, how can you forgive others?
Dolores Huerta

To err is human; to forgive, infrequent.
Franklin P. Adams (1881 - 1960)

'Tis the most tender part of love, each other to forgive.
John Sheffield

There is no revenge so complete as forgiveness.
Josh Billings (1818 - 1885)

Forgiveness is almost a selfish act because of its immense benefits to the one who forgives.
Lawana Blackwell, The Dowry of Miss Lydia Clark, 1999

The hatred you're carrying is a live coal in your heart - far more damaging to yourself than to them.
Lawana Blackwell, The Dowry of Miss Lydia Clark, 1999

The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong.
Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948)

Life is an adventure in forgiveness.
Norman Cousins (1915 - 1990)

Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.
Oscar Wilde (1854 - 1900)
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taterguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 02:26 PM
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1. Use your education, don't let your education use you
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 02:30 PM
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2. "The purpose of education is to teach us HOW to learn
not WHAT to learn."

Keeping with the education theme :)
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 02:42 PM
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13. love it. one of my favorites from Frank Herbert's Dune is:
Muad'Dib learned rapidly because his first training was in how to learn. And the first lesson of all was the basic trust that he could learn. It's shocking to find how many people do not believe they can learn, and how many more believe learning to be difficult. Muad'Dib knew that every experience carries its lesson.
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 02:30 PM
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3. wonder who said it?
I have one in my head that I can't figure a source for: "Kindess is the only invisble weapon." I don't know where in the H that came from.
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taterguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 02:44 PM
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15. I heard it first from the Dead Kennedy's guitarist
I don't know if he heard it from someone else though
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 02:32 PM
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4. "Do I not destroy my enemy, when I make him my friend?"
"If you stay in one place long enough, the world will come to you."
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 02:33 PM
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5. lol
I love that first one. Yeah, baby.
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Esra Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 05:30 PM
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44. Please clear something for me. "LOL" does it mean....
laughing out loud or lots of love or what?
I always read it as laughing, but I thought that looked inappropriate
in your post.
Cheers
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 05:32 PM
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47. it was more a
self-satified chuckle, because I can relate to it from a personal standpoint. :)
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Esra Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 05:52 PM
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56. Ah the old SSC .....got it.
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Shine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 02:35 PM
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6. Here are a few:
"To be who you are and become what you are capable of being is the only goal worth living." ~Alvin Ailey

"You may never know the result that comes from your actions, but if you do nothing, there will be no result." ~ Gandhi.

"Let your life speak." ~Quaker wisdom

"When you know that all is light, you are enlightened." ~Unknown.

:hi:
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 05:11 PM
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105. I like that one by Gandhi
I've heard a variation on that somewhere but I can't remember where.
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edbermac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 02:36 PM
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7. No matter where you go, there you are. - Buckaroo Banzai
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 04:06 PM
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35. that was going to be mine
good thinking!
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edbermac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 04:56 PM
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39. Laugh while you can, monkey boy! - Emilio Lizardo
That was my second.

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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 02:38 PM
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8. Here's some
"I have never believed wholeheartedly in country,or state,to my circle of friends or even to my own family.These ties have always been accompanied by a vague aloofness,and the wish to withdraw into myself increases with the years.Such isolation is sometimes bitter,but I do not regret being cut off from the understanding and sympathy of other men.I lose something by it,to be sure,but I am compensated for it by being rendered independant of the customs,opinions,and predjudices of others,and am not tempted to rest my piece of mind on such shifting sands." - "Albo" Einstein.

"There is one difference between and madman and myself:I am not mad." - Salvador Dali

"The concept of mental health in our society is defined largely to the extent to which an individual behaves in accord with the needs of the system,and does so without showing signs of stress." - The Unabomber

"Nihilism is best left to professionals." - Iggy Pop
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 02:42 PM
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12. roflmao
great one there by the Unabomber.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

didn't expect to see him in here, but what the hey.

Eistein sounds like a bit of an Aspie.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 02:49 PM
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16. "Eistein sounds like a bit of an Aspie."
So do I,it's my favorite quote! :)
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mikeiddy Donating Member (218 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 02:39 PM
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9. In my experience what happens is often much worse than the worst I could imagine . . . (nt)
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 02:40 PM
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10. here is one of my all-time favorites
“To be nobody but yourself in a world that's doing its best to make you somebody else, is to fight the hardest battle you are ever going to fight. Never stop fighting.”
E. E. Cummings

:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 02:55 AM
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94. Ooohh oooohh -- I really like that!
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 02:41 PM
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11. "The moral majority is neither"
i saw that on a pin once, thought it summed it pretty well.
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 02:44 PM
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14. Here you go
"The purpose of the journey is compassion. When you have come past the
pairs of opposites, you have reached compassion."

- Joseph Campbell
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 05:12 PM
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106. I wish I knew more
about what he was saying about he dichotomies. I know kind of what he might mean but I don't want to read into it. A great man, Campbell. :hi:
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1gobluedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 02:52 PM
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17. I like this one
Tough times never last. Tough people do.

-- Robert Schuller
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 02:58 PM
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18. amen to that.
I can relate.
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stuntcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 03:07 PM
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19. MY 3 killers
Voltaire - "Doubt is uncomfortable but certainty is ridiculous."

Andre Gide - "It is better to be hated for what you are than loved for what you are not." (Apply this to anyone lately.)

Flaubert - "I have always tried to live in an ivory tower, but a tide of shit is beating at it's walls, threatening to undermine it."


AND a funny joke--
Q- How do crazy people go through the forest?
A- They take the psychopath :+
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 03:20 PM
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20. "certainty is ridiculous"
sounds right to me. :hi:
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Nickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 03:25 PM
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21. "Never take counsel to your fears"-T.J. "Stonewall" Jackson n/t
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 03:30 PM
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23. what does that mean?
Don't listen to them, don't think about them? Sometimes that archaic language is a little hard to understand. :hi:
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Nickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 03:38 PM
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27. Don't let your fears dictate what you do. If you make decisions based on what your fears are, you
could end up making much worse mistakes.
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 03:39 PM
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28. thanks!
makes sense. :hi:
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 03:30 PM
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24. delete
Edited on Mon Feb-12-07 03:31 PM by idgiehkt
dupe because my stupid computer times out every 20 minutes and it drives me nuts but I have no idea how to fix it or make it not do that. :eyes:
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 03:25 PM
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22. "It's a fine line between clever and stupid."
David St. Hubbins
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taterguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 03:58 PM
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32. Was St Hubbins a philosopher?
Whoever he was, he was a brilliant man
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 04:03 PM
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34. The patron saint of quality footwear
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taterguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 04:11 PM
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37. Is that reply an example of cleverness or stupidity?
I can't figure it out
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Beer Snob-50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 03:35 PM
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25. Here you go:
Beer is proof that God loves us. Ben Franklin

Fat, Drunk, and Stupid is no way to go through life. Dean Wormer

the journey of a thousand miles starts with a single step. Unknown
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TheBaldyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 03:36 PM
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26. The best of us lack all certainty, the worst lack all doubt.
I think it was Bertrand Russell said that but I can't be sure.

It is easier to get forgiveness than permission. - Adm. Grace Hopper.
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 05:08 PM
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40. that 2nd one confuses me so much
Arrgghhh!
every time I try to think about what it means I get even more confused.
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TheBaldyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 08:50 PM
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70. I once saw Grace Hopper in a TV interview explain it ...
She worked for the US Navy during WWII and she knew that if she asked a superior officer if she could try something new out the answer was invariably no.

So if she was sure the new move would be an improvement she just went ahead and did it. When the higher-ups found out, they saw that it was OK and gave her a mild reprimand for not following the usual channels.

I got the quote slightly wrong, according to http://www-history.mcs.st-andrews.ac.uk/Quotations/Hopper.html">this university website:
"It's always easier to apologize than to ask permission."

She's legendary in computing circles with a life that seems to be composed of nothing but firsts. Rear Admiral Grace Murray Hopper - seriously techie and all round computer guru.

http://www.sdsc.edu/ScienceWomen/hopper.html

http://www-history.mcs.st-andrews.ac.uk/Biographies/Hopper.html

http://www.agnesscott.edu/LRIDDLE/WOMEN/hopper.htm
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 12:51 AM
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90. wow, thanks for all that info
and you are right, the quote put that way makes more sense to me. With that background info I can understand it. I think Miss American Pie quoted it to me one dady and I didn't understand it but I was too embarassed to admit it, lol.

Thanks. :hi:
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 05:21 PM
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42. Yeats, wasn't it?
From his poem "The Second Coming"...

"The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity."
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TheBaldyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 09:05 PM
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71. I think you're right
from http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/b/bertrandru101364.html">BrainyQuote.com

"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." - Bertrand Russell

Clearly, I'm not the most erudite man in the world.
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 09:15 PM
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74. Those are VERY similar...
Indeed, I wouldn't be surprised if Yeats had been inspired, perhaps subconsciously, by Russell (or possibly vice versa).
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 03:42 PM
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29. One I live by....
"After four years, the dust doesn't get any worse." -Quentin Crisp
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 03:43 PM
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30. "The worm that sleeps in late,
doesn't get eaten by the early bird."

Uncle Joe
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 03:54 PM
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31. My dear idg!
Here's some of mine:

To love someone deeply gives you strength.
Being loved by someone deeply gives you courage. ~~Lao Tsu

Either war is obsolete, or men are. ~~Buckminster Fuller

I have learned that people will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but they will never forget how 'you' made them feel. ~~Maya Angelou

Grief is the price we all pay for love. ~~Gretchen Jackson, Barbaro's owner

The more personal you are, the more universal it is. ~~Anais Nin

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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 03:59 PM
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33. great quote by maya angelou!
:hi:
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William Bloode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 04:10 PM
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36. It takes a big man to cry.
It takes an even bigger man too laugh at him.-- Jack Handy.
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 04:54 PM
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38. Here are some by Mark Twain
my favorite quotable figure

Mark Twain
"Fiction is obliged to stick to possibilities. Truth isn't."

"Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please."

"I have a higher and grander standard of principle than George Washington. He could not lie; I can, but I won't."

"I have been through some terrible things in my life, some of which actually happened."


And some definitions from Ambrose Bierce
Ambrose Bierce (1842 - 1914), The Devil's Dictionary

Bore, n.: A person who talks when you wish him to listen.

Quotation, n: The act of repeating erroneously the words of another.

Absurdity, n.: A statement or belief manifestly inconsistent with one's own opinion.

Acquaintance, n.: A person whom we know well enough to borrow from, but not well enough to lend to.

Politeness, n. The most acceptable hypocrisy.

Egotist, n. A person of low taste, more interested in himself than in me.

Scriptures, n. The sacred books of our holy religion, as distinguished from the false and profane writings on which all other faiths are based.

History, n. An account mostly false, of events unimportant, which are brought about by rulers mostly knaves, and soldiers mostly fools.

some quotes by Bierce
"Calamities are of two kinds: misfortunes to ourselves, and good fortune to others."
"The covers of this book are too far apart."
"Self-denial is indulgence of a propensity to forego."



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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 05:19 PM
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41. Some of my favourites:
(Theme: diversity and tolerance, more or less)

No loss by flood and lightning, no destruction of cities and temples by hostile forces of nature, has deprived man of so many noble lives and impulses as those which his intolerance
has destroyed. - Helen Keller


My definition of a free society is a society where it is safe to be unpopular. - Adlai E. Stevenson



The first thing to learn in intercourse with others is non-interference with their own particular ways of being happy, provided those ways do not assume to interfere by violence with ours. - William James


Truth resides in every human heart, and one has to search for it there, and to be guided by truth as one sees it. But no one has a right to coerce others to act according to his own view of truth. - Mohandas K. Gandhi


A civilized society is one which tolerates eccentricity to the point of doubtful sanity. - Robert Frost


If we cannot end our differences, at least we can help make the world safe for diversity. - John Fitzgerald Kennedy


It gives me great pleasure indeed to see the stubbornness of an incorrigible nonconformist
warmly acclaimed. - Albert Einstein



When we lose the right to be different, we lose the privilege to be free. - CHarles Evans Hughes


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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 05:21 PM
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43. those are great
I especially like the first one:

No loss by flood and lightning, no destruction of cities and temples by hostile forces of nature, has deprived man of so many noble lives and impulses as those which his intolerance
has destroyed. - Helen Keller

so true. :hi:
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hellbound-liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 05:31 PM
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45. Here's one of my favorites:
"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society".-Jiddu Krishnamurti
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 05:35 PM
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48. I think that one may just be the best one I've read all day.
:applause:
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 06:09 PM
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66. I love that quote.
So much, in fact, that it's my signature at another site. :)
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 05:32 PM
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46. "Chickpeas are neither chicks, nor peas. Discuss"


"I am just going outside and may be some time." -Laurence Oates, 1912.

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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 05:36 PM
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49. That last one is extremely depressing.
Admirable, too, if you know the context (greater love hath no man, etc)...but depressing.
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 05:38 PM
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53. I don't know the context
I guess that's why I didn't understand it.
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 05:53 PM
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57. Context:
Oates was part of Robert Scott's expedition to the South Pole; on their return they were on short rations, and Oates was weak from frostbite...he walked out into a blizzard to die, with those as his parting words, because he thought the others would have a better chance without him. (None of Scott's party survived, but the incident was recorded in Scott's notebook, which was found by a later expedition.) Like I said, depressing.
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 05:54 PM
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58. oh, that's terrible
thanks, that is really depressing but it makes more sense now. :cry:
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 05:39 PM
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54. hey, the question was for deep quotes
not uplifting ones.

not much deeper than Oates' FLW.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 05:37 PM
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50. Aristotle, for Valentine's Day:
Love is one soul inhabiting two bodies. :loveya:
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Esra Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 05:37 PM
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51. "Life is what happens to you when you're busy making other
plans"
Lennon
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onecent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 05:38 PM
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52. Here's one of my favorite....
People so seldom say "I love you"
..and then it's either too late, or love goes.

So...when I tell you that I love you,
It doesn't mean I know you'll never go...
Only that I wish you didn't have too.
Anonymous
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hellbound-liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 05:42 PM
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55. here's one I like from Robert A. Heinlein
Edited on Mon Feb-12-07 05:42 PM by irkthesmirk
"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, con a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyse a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects". from the Notebook of Lazarus Long
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 05:56 PM
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59. "specialization is for insects"
wow, that is great. Although I'm quite certain from reading that quote, that I am, in fact, an insect. :hi:
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hellbound-liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 06:02 PM
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62. Me too, there's so much to learn. Here's a favorite from Confucius:
Even when walking in the company of two other men, I am bound to be able to learn from them. The good points of the one I copy; the bad points of the other I correct in myself.-Confucius
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 05:57 PM
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60. George Bernard Shaw
"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one. The happiness of credulity is a cheap and dangerous quality."

George Bernard Shaw
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 06:04 PM
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63. that's amazing
and sobering. Wow. :hi:
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MedleyMisty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 06:00 PM
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61. A rather long one
But the only one I had at hand to copy and paste.

Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations. Do not believe in anything because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders.

When you yourselves directly know these things are wholesome, blameless, praised by the wise, when they lead to well-being, prosperity and happiness, then you should accept and practice them.

-Buddha

Off to go find shorter ones and post them.
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 06:04 PM
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64. yes
"Do not believe in anything because it is spoken and rumored by many."

Yes.
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 06:07 PM
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65. One of my favorites
"Even the most Bush-happy, flag suckling jack-arse knows deep-down inside that something is wrong. America is over and everyone knows it. The New World Order has a dying empire odor and changing the channel ain't going to make this go away."

Jello Biafra
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hellbound-liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 06:41 PM
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67. No collection of deep quotes would be complete without George Carlin
If man evolved from monkeys and apes. . . why do we still have monkeys and apes?
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suzbaby Donating Member (906 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 11:45 PM
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83. Here's my favorite George Carlin quote:
"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, some where, someone said to themselves, 'You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done.'"

Another favorite:
"Death is cause by swallowing small amounts of saliva over a long period of time."
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 12:53 AM
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91. my favorite Carlin quote
very off-color and un-pc

"How come women who are against abortion are always women you'd never wanna f*ck anyway?

:rofl:
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Drum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 07:06 PM
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68. Here are two that I try to keep in my frontal lobes:
"Evil flourishes when good men do nothing."

and

"The chains of Habit are too weak to be felt until they are too strong to be broken."
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 07:07 PM
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69. wow
that last one is so true...I've experienced that many times. Or maybe I'm thinking of addiction, lol.

:applause:
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The Traveler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 09:08 PM
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72. OK, here are some of my favorites
Judgment comes from experience. Experience comes from poor judgment.

Courage is just the realization that something else is more important than your fear.

Belief in God confers no virtue. Disbelief confers no knowledge.

When you eliminate the impossible, whatever is left, no matter how improbable must be true.
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 11:54 PM
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89. wow, that first one is a conundrum.
Judgment comes from experience. Experience comes from poor judgment.

Sigh. That just blew a fuse in my brain. :crazy:
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 09:12 PM
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73. If I weren't such a people pleaser
I'd be a serial killer

SPK


:evilgrin:
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 04:58 PM
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99. maybe it's
two sides of the same coin?

:shrug:

:hi:
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 07:43 PM
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116. I'm Sure It Probably Could Be
although, I wouldn't be a serial killer

maybe a raving lunatic, which I may be BTW anyhow.

But people pleasing is certainly the flip side of hostility, or the cause of hostility, or the result of hostility that isn't expressed right.

:shrug:
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Q3JR4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 10:16 PM
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75. Here are mine.
I had to dredge them up from old emails, but here's a list.

"Man will never be free until the last king is
strangled with the entrails of the last priest."
- Denis Diderot (1713-1784)

"The devil can cite Scripture for his purpose."
- William Shakespeare (1564-1616), The Merchant of
Venice, I.iii

"They say time is the fire in which we burn."
- Dr. Tolian Soran, Star Trek: Generations

"The only way to get rid of a temptation is to yield
to it."
- Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)

"The worst part about politics is that you're always
right and no one ever knows it."
- Unknown

"Eat right, exercise, die anyway." - Unknown

"Death is a once in a lifetime experience." - Unknown

"Maybe this world is another planet's hell." - Unknown

"When you're in love, you're at the mercy of a
stranger." - Unknown

"Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I
know" - Hemingway

"Sin Boldly." - Unknown
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 05:00 PM
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100. I love those!
especially these:

"Man will never be free until the last king is
strangled with the entrails of the last priest."

so very true.


and this:

"Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I
know" - Hemingway

Wow, it's a depressing thought, but so true in my experience.
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S n o w b a l l Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 10:35 PM
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76. This one....
holds a special meaning for me.


In the depths of winter
I finally learned that within me
there lay an invincible summer.
~Albert Camus

:hi:


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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 11:53 PM
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87. I love that!
Gorgeous. :hi:
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 10:37 PM
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77. Reality - What a concept!
- Robin Williams
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 05:01 PM
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101. he's a very smart man
got enough energy for a dozen people. One of my favorites from his was in his stand-up act where he intro'd with: "Hey, does anyone remember the 60's?" and then said something like "face it, if you remember them you probably weren't there."
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 10:56 PM
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78. Someone who reads nothing at all is better educated than someone who reads nothing but newspapers.
If you take no thought about what is distant, you will find sorrow near at hand.

They say that God is everywhere, and yet we always think of Him as somewhat of a recluse.

If there really is a God who created the entire universe with all of its glories, and He decides to deliver a message to humanity, He will not use, as His messenger, a person on cable TV with a bad hairstyle.

Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction.

The world is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion.

In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice; in
practice, there is.

Alas, to wear the mantle of Galileo it is not enough that you be persecuted by an unkind establishment; you must also be right.

If a political party does not have its foundation in the determination to advance a cause that is right and that is moral, then it is not a political party; it is merely a conspiracy to seize power.

A great nation is not saved by wars, it is saved by acts without external picturesqueness; by speaking, writing, voting reasonably; by smiting corruption swiftly; by good temper between parties; by the people knowing true men when they see them, and preferring them as leaders to rabid partisans or empty quacks.

In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for. As for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican.
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 11:52 PM
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85. wow
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction."

that is the truth, is it not?

:applause:
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Briarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 11:08 PM
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79. 31. MAINTAINING PEACE
Weapons of war are instruments of fear,
and are abhorred by those who follow the Tao.
The leader who follows the natural way
does not abide them.
The warrior king leans to his right,
from whence there comes his generals' advice,
but the peaceful king looks to his left,
where sits his counsellor of peace.
When he looks to his left, it is a time of peace,
and when to the right, a time for sorrow.
Weapons of war are instruments of fear,
and are not favoured by the wise,
who use them only when there is no choice,
for peace and stillness are dear to their hearts,
and victory causes them no rejoicing.
To rejoice in victory is to delight in killing;
to delight in killing is to have no self-being.
The conduct of war is that of a funeral;
when people are killed, it is a time of mourning.
This is why even victorious battle
should be observed without rejoicing.



What is the color of wind?
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 05:04 PM
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102. that is so beatiful
see my profile

this part especially

Weapons of war are instruments of fear,
and are not favoured by the wise,
who use them only when there is no choice,
for peace and stillness are dear to their hearts,
and victory causes them no rejoicing.
To rejoice in victory is to delight in killing;
to delight in killing is to have no self-being.
The conduct of war is that of a funeral
;
when people are killed, it is a time of mourning.
This is why even victorious battle
should be observed without rejoicing.

Unfortunately I've seen quite a few people lately taking pleasure in deliberate cruelty, that I expected much better from. It's always good to know these things about people, so I'm grateful for the opportunity, but it is disappointing.
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Monk06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 11:30 PM
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80. Ludwig Wittgenstein


Not every religion has to have St. Augustine's attitude to sex.
Why even in our culture marriages are celebrated in a church,
everyone present knows what is going to happen that night, but
that doesn't prevent it being a religious ceremony.
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 05:05 PM
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103. I don't know
a lot about St. Augustine...I take it he was a prude or something?
:hi:
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 11:34 PM
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81. A Verse From A Johnny Cash Song
(From Ballad Of Ira Hayes):

He died drunk one mornin'
Alone in the land he fought to save
Two inches of water in a lonely ditch
Was a grave for Ira Hayes
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 05:10 PM
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104. sad
reminds me of the gravestone of Thomas Thetcher



"Here sleeps in peace a Hampshire Grenadier, Who caught his death by drinking cold small Beer, Soldiers be wise from his untimely fall. And when ye're hot drink Strong or none at all."

and then:

"An Honest Soldier never is forgot whether he die by Musket or by Pot."


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Strawman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 11:44 PM
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82. Frederick Palowakski (1987)
"What if C-A-T really spelled dog?"
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Neoma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 11:48 PM
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84. A poem:
Her lips were red, her looks were free.
Her locks were yellow as gold.
Her skin was as white as leprosy.
The Night-mare life-in-death was she.
Who thicks mans blood with cold. -Anne Rice.


I didn't copy and paste this thank you very much, I have it memorized. :)
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 11:53 PM
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86. in honor of Lincoln's birthday
Here is a sobering quote by Abe Lincoln:

"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. . . . corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed."

-- U.S. President Abraham Lincoln, Nov. 21, 1864
(letter to Col. William F. Elkins)
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 05:14 PM
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107. that gave me chills
wow. I think it was prophecy. :(
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democracyindanger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 11:53 PM
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88. "There are no athiests in foxholes"
isn't an argument against atheism. It's an argument against foxholes.

Can't remember the author. Mencken, mebbe?
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 05:15 PM
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108. that's an interesting twist on things
hmmm. Kind of making my brain hurt, but still interesting. :hi:
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mykpart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 02:13 AM
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92. Experience is something you get right after you needed it.
Never play poker with a man named "Ace."

A good friend will come bail you out of jail, but a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn, that was fun!"
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 05:16 PM
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109. I love all of those
especially the one about experience. I think Mark Twain has said something like "Life always seems to come around and catch you on your unexperienced side." Which of course is true.
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Evoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 02:43 AM
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93. "It takes a big man to cry, but it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man
Jack Handey
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 05:16 PM
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111. yep
:hi:
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 03:05 AM
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95. things are more like they are now
than they have ever been before
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 05:17 PM
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112. whoa
that blew a synapse or two, lol. I think I'm almost fried from thinking about all these, lol.

:crazy:
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enigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 03:49 AM
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96. "It's Just A Ride"
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 05:22 PM
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113. "and we....kill those people."
man, he is absolutely and completely brilliant. Thanks so much for posting that. He's great. I wish all the preachers in the world were like him. I have only seen his thing about people in marketing where he tells them to kill themselves, which always cracks me up. This was amazing, a bit more serious than I expected, but so profound. It makes me wonder if all comedians are really philosphers.

here is a video in a kind of similar vein, it's a slam poem called "Dance, Monkeys, Dance"

http://iacs5.ucsd.edu/%7Epbang/dance_monkeys.htm
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enigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 11:29 PM
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119. That was great!
Thanks for that; Hicks was a broken-hearted idealist, which I can sympathize with...
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 03:50 AM
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97. A few,,, and what a great idea for a post. Well done idgiehkt.
Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance.
George Bernard Shaw

Do not do unto others as you expect they should do unto you. Their tastes may not be the same.
George Bernard Shaw

The moment we want to believe something, we suddenly see all the arguments for it, and become blind to the arguments against it.

Humanity has the stars in its future, and that future is too important to be lost under the burden of juvenile folly and ignorant superstition.
Isaac Asimov
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 02:43 PM
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98. I really like this
"The moment we want to believe something, we suddenly see all the arguments for it, and become blind to the arguments against it."

I've experienced that myself. LOL. And it is so true. That's why I would add to that quote that when you are surrounded by very wise people who care about you very much and can see things a whole lot more clearly than you can, it's probably a good idea to take their advice instead of stumbling blindly into a snakepit.

Good to see you. :hi:
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auntAgonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 05:16 PM
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110. The Prophet: Kahlil Gibran

Your pain is the breaking of the shell that encloses your understanding.

Even as the stone of the fruit must break, that its heart may stand in the sun, so must you know pain.
And could you keep your heart in wonder at the daily miracles of your life, your pain would not seem less wondrous than your joy;

And you would accept the seasons of your heart, even as you have always accepted the seasons that pass over your fields.

And you would watch with serenity through the winters of your grief.

Much of your pain is self-chosen.

It is the bitter potion by which the physician within you heals your sick self.

Therefore trust the physician, and drink his remedy in silence and tranquillity:

For his hand, though heavy and hard, is guided by the tender hand of the Unseen,

And the cup he brings, though it burn your lips, has been fashioned of the clay which the Potter has moistened with His own sacred tears.




aA
:hi:
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 05:26 PM
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114. I love that
especially this:
"Your pain is the breaking of the shell that encloses your understanding." But then, I've never read anything by this man that I don't love. Thanks for that.

:hi:
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Mendocino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 06:42 PM
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115. Old age isn't so bad,...
...when you consider the alternative-Maurice Chevalier

Let me be the person my dog thinks I am-?

The height of ignorance is a person who looks at a plant or animal and says, what good is it-Aldo Leopold

Your life shouldn't measured by the amount of breaths taken, but by the amount of times your breath is taken away-?

I am haunted by waters-Norman Mcclean (author of A River Runs Through It)

Wrongs of every sort, are done in the darkness of ignorance and unbelief, for when the light comes, the heart of the people is always right-John Muir
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 07:45 PM
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117. thanks
I will never be the person my dogs think I am. If I am half that person I am doing really well. I like all of those. :hi:
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 11:18 PM
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118. And one more...
Though we travel the world over to find the beautiful, we must carry it with us or we find it not.
Ralph Waldo Emerson ;-)
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