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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 08:43 PM
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Something I need to get off my chest
Edited on Wed Apr-18-07 08:52 PM by KC2
Today, April 18th, is the day my mother committed suicide. Well, she didn't actually die, until 9 days later, but I'll spare you the graphic details.

In light of the massacre at Virginia Tech this week, I'd like to give you a little insight...and say some things. Though, I know as well as anybody, there is really nothing any other individual can do to prevent someone from killing themselves, if the person really wants to.

Time does not heal all wounds. I've said it before, on here, but it's worth repeating. Primarily, because some parents, here on DU, have said they have seriously entertained the thought of killing themselves. I beg you not to.

Do I have fond memories of my mother? Sure...but not many. What stands out in my mind, today, on the anniversary, is how she stood in my doorway...in the middle of the night...the light surrounding her hair...making her look like an angel...just before she drove away.

I have never forgiven her. I doubt I ever will. Yes, I understand her...I understand the pain she went through-- very well, in fact. Yes, I've spent a lot of money on therapy. No, I am not a candidate for anti-depressant drugs.

There is help...out there...for anyone who feels suicidal. Get it. Don't think your children would be fine-- they wouldn't...your children would be fucked-up in the head-- for the rest of their lives. Don't think time would heal the wounds...don't think they would ever remember you fondly.

I hope this thread is not misunderstood. If even one family could be spared the pain mine has been through, then writing this has been worth it.

And, no..I am not suicidal.

http://suicidehotlines.com
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GenDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 08:47 PM
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1. Wow, KC2
So very sorry. Peace to you on this very difficult day.

:hug:
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 09:00 PM
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8. Thank you
It's had it's ups & downs. I just wish I could make it a day to celebrate her life, instead...but it never seems to work out that way, you know? :hug:
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 08:48 PM
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2. Wow
Edited on Wed Apr-18-07 08:51 PM by Southpawkicker
I'm very sorry...

shit


I'm gonna give you a hug anyway

:hug:
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 11:05 PM
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31. Thanks
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 08:50 PM
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3. thank you
and best wishes

your post made a difference tonight
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 08:51 PM
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5. Yes, thank you for sharing KC2
kind of puts a few things in perspective for me.

:hug:
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 08:50 PM
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4. Oh KC2
This is all I have to offer you at this time


:hug: :hug: :hug:


I am sorry you had to deal with that kind of tragedy.

:hug: :hug: :hug:
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 09:47 PM
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18. Thanks, friend
Yeah, I've been a bit of a wreck (more than usual) lately. Thanks for sticking by me.

:hug:


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BarenakedLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 08:53 PM
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6. Oh sweetie
I am so so sorry. That is why, even in my deepest darkest depths of depression, I knew I could never kill myself. And believe me, I have thought about it. Thank you for reminding me of that. I'm in a much better place now, but it wasn't really all that long ago in the whole scheme of things.

Anti-depressants and more importantly therapy have helped me crawl out of that hole. I can proudly say I'm in the mildly depressed category as opposed to the severe one I was in just 7 months ago. The driving force in my seeking help was my three beautiful children.

:hug:
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 09:20 PM
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12. I am so happy you are doing better!
It really is the best news I've had all day. :hug:
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Redbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 09:00 PM
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7. Thank you very much.
You rock.
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 09:24 PM
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13. Well..
..thank you. That was very kind. :hug:
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 09:05 PM
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9. ...
:hug: :hug:
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 09:26 PM
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14. Thanks
:hug: :hug:
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 09:11 PM
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10. thanks for posting this and for being you ---
:hug:
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 09:33 PM
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15. Aww..
...you're so sweet. Thank you. :hug:
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femmocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 09:14 PM
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11. Your post took a lot of courage...
:hug:
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 09:52 PM
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20. Thanks
It didn't, though, really. But, thanks. :hug:
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 09:39 PM
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16. That is an awful thing to bear!
:hug:

I dated a man whose mother committed suicide when he was a preschooler. I think he probably still thinks it is all his fault.

:hug:
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 10:02 PM
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21. Yeah, that is a common reaction
Hope your friend is able to work through it, to some degree. :hug:
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 09:43 PM
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17. Dear KC2...
:hug:
I wish your post could be heard on the radio or the TV. Many stations are asking for opinions on the events at VT. Yours would be valuable...
:hug:
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 10:14 PM
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23. Thanks
But, I've had more than my share of "15 minutes of fame," from a speeding ticket, caught by TV reporters, once. It's a story for another time.

:hug:
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 09:47 PM
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19. Thank you for sharing your story, KC2
My mom tried several times, but fortunately got help. Even contemplating what it would have been like had she succeeded breaks my heart.

:hug:
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 10:18 PM
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24. I'm glad she didn't succeed
But, I'm sure it was still hell for you, SeattleGirl. :hug:

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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 10:05 PM
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22. My dear KC2...
Thank you for telling us this....

Hugs to you on this most difficult day, sweetie....:hug:

Remember that we all love you....as do I...:loveya:
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 10:29 PM
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26. Thank you
I love you, Peggy...I do. :hug: :loveya:
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 10:21 PM
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25. Forgive her. Don't forget what she did, but forgive her.
Forgive her for not being able to see what a wonderful child she had in you.

Forgive her for not being strong enough to stay alive to witness all the wonderful things you have done and will do.

Forgive her for not being strong enough. period.

Forgive her. Don't forget what happened and continue to tell people what you have been through as you have tonight, but try and forgive her for the extremely flawed, weak person she was.

We are all flawed and weak. We are all capable of doing what your mom did. Forgive her.

:hug:
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 10:47 PM
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29. That was a beautiful reply
Thank you. :hug:
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gemdem Donating Member (975 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 10:45 PM
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27. Thank you
and may you find some healing in the sharing, and some comfort in knowing that many here care about you.

:hug: :hug: :hug:
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 10:54 PM
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30. Thank you
:hug: :hug: :hug:
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 10:47 PM
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28. I understand, KC2. Totally.
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 11:09 PM
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33. Thank you
And, I'm sorry if it made you sad. :hug:

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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 11:23 PM
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34. No, I'm sorry you had to experience that.
I lost a lot of friends and some family to suicide. At the time, I thought it was just "normal."
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 11:25 PM
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35. Hugs...
:hug: :hug: :hug:

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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 11:08 PM
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32. Wow. I'm so sorry. But thanks for writing this.
I'm thinking of you.
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 11:39 PM
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37. Thank you. n/t
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 11:33 PM
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36. posted earlier
heartfelt message...but server down?

at any rate...I wish this message was posted in GD for more people to view. Articulate message you wrote..and lighting candle for you. Sending light to envelope you with peace I hope and please feel the love that everyone here is sending.

Your message is so demonstrative of the lack of mental health care and the human side of what families have to suffer. thank you for your post.

fondly, m
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 11:41 PM
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38. Thank you for saying it was articulate
It seems redundant to me, now..but, well, it's all out there, isn't it?

Thanks.
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 12:36 AM
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39. no need to respond...
but am serious about posting on general discussion. m
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 12:40 AM
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40. Thanks...but, I am already feeling..
..well, exposed...over exposed, actually, already.

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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 12:55 AM
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41. no worries...
who comes to the lounge? ;-)
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 01:31 AM
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42. I only discovered the Lounge after..
..one of my threads was moved here. It was a thread I'd started in GD-- about psychic abilities. I've been here ever since (well, off & on). ;-)

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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 01:59 AM
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43. yes nearly two years ago a friend of mine committed suicide...
I wrestled with that for a long time. I thought I could have stopped it, but like you said, there really was nothing I could do.

You know, I don't know what to say other than thanks for sharing this. My condolences and I appreciate your thoughts.
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 07:43 AM
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49. Thank you
I'm very sorry to hear about your friend. :hug:
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 02:24 AM
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44. thank you so much for sharing
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 07:43 AM
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50. You're welcome. n/t
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Quakerfriend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 05:27 AM
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45. Love to you KC on this difficult anniversary
:hug:

Through your sharing you may have saved some other family this horrible pain.

And, you are so right about time not healing the wounds. My beautiful and vibrant youngest sister (there were six of us) committed suicide after years of fighting depression. She had loads of love and support from family and friends. Lots and lots of therapy and counseling from age 15 on up until she died at 33. She left us a tape telling us that she just could not hang on any longer.

Sadly, I think that some who commit suicide have gotten to the point where they truly feel that those around them would be better off without them. Your mom may very well have believed this.


This is just NOT true.

When you think of her, remind yourself to send her forgiveness. You will see her on the other side.
:grouphug:
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 07:45 AM
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51. Yes, they start to think that..
..but, you are so right-- it is simply not true. :hug:
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bertha katzenengel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 05:33 AM
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46. I wanted to say something about my experience but I would be
really fucked up to do so.

I am sorry, KC2. A :hug: seems inappropriate for me to give. I want to give you more. It'll have to be enough to say you'll be in my thoughts these days.
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 07:45 AM
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52. Aww
I'm sorry. I hope this thread didn't rehash too much for you.. :hug:

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Bassic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 07:09 AM
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47. ...
:hug:
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 07:46 AM
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54. Thanks
:hug:
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SarahB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 07:16 AM
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48. I'm very sorry for what you went through.
My dad had some problems with severe depression when I was growing up, but he sought help before it was too late- twice in fact. Now, he's a grandpa and a pretty ok guy. Depression kills and it doesn't have to. :(
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 07:46 AM
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55. I'm so glad your dad was able to survive it
:hug:
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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 07:45 AM
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53. Thank you. n/t
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 07:47 AM
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56. You're welcome. n/t
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av8rdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 09:51 AM
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57. I am so sorry...but thank you for a courageous, valuable post
That might just make a critical difference in people's lives somewhere.

I hope you got through what must have been a really difficult day OK!
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 10:24 AM
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58. I did get through it okay..and thank you
:hug:
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slj0101 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 10:27 AM
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59. Yours is one of the best assessments I have read on the topic.
Thank you for sharing. :hug:
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 10:28 AM
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60. Wow...
thank you. :hug:

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