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kedrys Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 07:00 AM
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If your spouse flings their wedding ring across the room
at you and screams "I don't want this anymore!", and it lands under the futon, and they make no attempt to retrieve it, and you fish it out and put it on a table where they can't fail to see it, and they don't put it back on for 4 days, does that constitute a divorce?
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cobalt1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 07:10 AM
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1. No, sounds like someone is wanting attention,
, being immature, or making an power play.

I'd take off your ring and set it right next to it.
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militaryspouse Donating Member (198 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 07:21 AM
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2. re
4days? I can understand being mad for a day and getting over it, but if h/she hasn't put it back on. Sounds like this person is making a statement. Are you two at least communicating? That's key to resolving conflicts.
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kedrys Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 11:59 AM
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10. That's a thought
It's definitely in the tantrum category, but it's never been quite this, er, spectacular.
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 07:36 AM
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3. It constitutes a pretty serious problem in the relationship, IMHO.
This action is the result, not the cause of the problem. What issues stand behind it?

Nothing will improve or resolve until communication takes place. If you can't do it with each other without help, see a couples counselor.
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kedrys Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 01:16 PM
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13. Issues and problems
S.O. is unemployed, we're broke, we need to decide whether to pitch the house in the process of filing for bankruptcy, and our neighbors are idiots. We're both under stress. :(

At least we had a semi-pleasant weekend and are definitely still talking to each other. There are a lot of eggshells on the floor, though.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 08:26 AM
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4. Its a separation ceremony of some sort
but has no legally binding power.
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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 08:43 AM
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5. Incomplete information. What precipitated this outburst?
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Little Wing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 08:47 AM
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6. Does it have a Donald Duck pez dipenser built-in?
You're not providing much information here.
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 10:14 AM
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7. No
When you pick it up and shove it up their nose, while simultaneously kicking them out the door, it constitutes a divorce.
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zingaro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 10:18 AM
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8. Not divorce, but
surely a need for either a therapist or an attorney.

I'm sorry. I know how ugly and delicate a situation like that is. Anything an internet stranger can do for you?

:hug:
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Bassic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 10:24 AM
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9. Not quite,
Edited on Mon Apr-30-07 10:24 AM by Bassic
but it's not a good sign either.

Have courage! :hug:
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 12:08 PM
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11. That means "I need you to listen to me, or it's over." Divorce comes
when they are no longer pissed off enough to do such things. You scream in anger, you leave during moments of calm resolve. Though the longer that rings sits there, the more it looks like resolve.

I stopped wearing my ring a year or so before I considered it over. Once I even stopped wearing it for a while, then put it back on when I thought spouse was making an effort. The next time I took it off, it stayed off. By then, I was too worn out to scream or throw things.
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kedrys Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 01:29 PM
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14. I've been listening
Apparently, part of the problem is that I don't have any miracle solutions to our various predicaments that don't involve compromise and sacrifice. :(
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 12:09 PM
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12. No.
It just constitutes a bad marriage, IMO.
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SarahB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 01:33 PM
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15. If only divorce WERE that easy.
Unfortunately, it's a lot more expensive, time-consuming, and annoying.
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 01:39 PM
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16. I would recommend some counseling...
it can help...
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Ms_Dem_Meanor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 01:41 PM
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17. Sounds like they are being an idiot, INMHO. n/t
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 01:44 PM
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18. Certainly headed that way...but there's a whole lot more to divorce
than throwing the ring away.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 03:27 PM
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19. My ex-wife did similar
though, she took off her ring quietly and left it there where I could easily see it.

It worked the first few times with her getting her way... but, it wore thin quickly, and by the time I knew our marriage was doomed, I just responded by taking mine off as well.

I'd recommend counseling. My ex refused to get any counseling, even though we had a few events negatively impact our marriage from the start... (and, if I tried to comfort her, she said I was smothering her. If I tried to give her space, I was being distant. So, it was a no-win situation that maybe counseling could have at least helped)



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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 04:37 PM
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20. I think the futon makes it a legal separation, not a divorce.
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LibraLiz1973 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 07:11 PM
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21. Maybe not divorce
But a separation sounds in order.

Sorry.
:hug:
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 07:38 PM
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22. hawk it and buy some beer
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Fla Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 07:48 PM
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23. Sounds like serious problems, not resolvable here.
Edited on Mon Apr-30-07 07:49 PM by Fla Dem
If there are children involved and/or you really want to save the marriage, I would seriously suggest some type of couples counseling. If not, and your as miserable in the relationship as she seems to be, maybe it's time to part ways.
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