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LosinIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 09:07 AM
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I hate Lake Effect!!!!
I swear that it snows here practically every day. Take a look at a map of the Great Lakes and areas to the east and south of each of the lakes get this 'extra' snow, not associated with a storm system. It is cold air going over the lakes that picks up moisture and then drops it on the land.

We have over two feet of snow on the ground and still coming. We are on the southeast corner of Lake Ontario and are supposed to get another 5 to 8 inches today.

I work nights so I am on my way to bed. Looks like another fun drive into work again tonight. At least there is less traffic at 11PM.
</whining>
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 09:14 AM
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1. We have "hot spring effect" in the valley
Upriver a few miles is a geothermal spring, which returns (mostly) to the river. Which makes the river several degrees warmer than your typical river. Which makes a fog you couldn't believe would be possible at 7,000 feet whenever the temperature dips below 10 degrees or so (F).

On the plus side, I've gone down there in the morning several times this year and discovered "flocking" (that fuzzy-looking ice buildup) on trees and fences that was, I swear, like an inch and a half deep. Very neato!

Hey, drive safe, ya big whiney!! ;)
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 09:18 AM
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2. I drive around the Southern point of Lake Michigan quite often and
I agree it is pretty darned irritating. It starts in Kalamazoo and doesn't end until I am almost to Milwaukee. It gets really tiresome on the eyes. Many times I have had to stop for the night because it has been so bad. Be safe!

Laura
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 09:22 AM
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3. But cold without snow is just, well, COLD
Think of all the things you have that folks in Orlando miss

300 horsepower self-propelled snow throwers
"Snow banks" which cushion SUV's otherwise lethal slides into trees
Mastery of choosing among various tread patterns for your snow tires
speaking of which, you always have 2 spares in storage.
Fire hydrant markers...little flags on top of 8 ft rods.
16 different words for snow, 15 which can't be said on television
Hardware stores selling shovels with ergonomic handles sized for the 6ft 6 inch son that you never had.
Free upper body work-outs, and the satisfaction that comes from knowing the plow will drive by 5 minutes after you shovel out the end of the drive.
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 09:24 AM
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4. LOL!
"16 different words for snow, 15 which can't be said on television"

I'm rippin' that one off! That's dang funny!! :D
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 09:26 AM
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5. ..and don't forget the $20 replacement chain for above mentioned
snow blower because it breaks every time it hits ice or pavement. :P
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 09:27 AM
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6. Running battle
you hit it on the head:

Free upper body work-outs, and the satisfaction that comes from knowing the plow will drive by 5 minutes after you shovel out the end of the drive.

I've had a running battle with our snow plow driver for years. I swear to God he sits at the end of the block and waits for me to finish. Once he danmed near buried me while I was finishing blowing out the driveway....it earned him a "one-finger-salute" and it's been constant warfare ever since.

I feel inadequate now........I don't have a 300 hp snowblower...(sniff, sniff,) mine's only 8hp.........
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July Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 09:30 AM
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7. Oswego?
I've been there, and the lake effect there is worse than it is in my home town of Buffalo. You have my sympathy.
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Cannikin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 01:07 PM
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8. You could be down here in Arkansas.....
Its 30 today....could be 80 tomorrow.....We dont have a true winter here....fall and spring just brawl for a few weeks. I miss snow!
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 01:29 PM
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10. 2 years ago I climbed Pinnacle in Feb...
It was 80 degrees, I was coming down with the flu and I thought I was gonna die.
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youngred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 01:34 PM
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12. 30 to 80 oh no!
in upstate NY it can be below zero and then up into the 70s and then back below zero in 3 days.
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LosinIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 06:57 PM
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14. Close to Oswego, Sodus Point
Oswego actually gets it worse than we do. They have been out of snow days since last week.
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nykiera Donating Member (332 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 07:46 PM
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17. Pulaski here
And we have only used 1 snow day...for which my children are not happy!
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 01:12 PM
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9. Damn cold! The wind chill is the worst.
I lived in Chicago for 15 years and understand completely. I keep reminding myself of that when it hits 115°F (that °F is for you Cannucks) here in Phoenix in the summer. I just tell myself "sure it's hot, but you don't need to shovel snow."
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youngred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 01:33 PM
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11. No no silly Lake Effect is wonderful!
You have to love just getting snow dumped on at random.

Did you know the Great Lakes reigon and the northern Islands of Japan are the only places in the world where leake effect exists.

I miss snow on this clear, sunny, cool DC day.

Where are you near waterloo or Oswego?
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 01:37 PM
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13. Where Is Lake Effect? How's The Fishing At Lake Effect?
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 07:29 PM
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15. we got dumped on also by Lake Michigan
hate it. Im old, this sucks. I hate winter. 20 inches, fuck it. Hate it.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 07:31 PM
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16. I feel sorry for you.
If it's any consolation Spring is on the way. :-)
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LosinIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 02:42 AM
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19. Don't feel TOO sorry for me, it's worth it for the summers on the Bay
Here is a link to a picture of the bay:
http://www.greatsodusbay.org/

I don't know how to display it here. From May to October you couldn't find a better place to live, it's like being on vacation all the time. But these winters try one's soul.
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Interrobang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 08:03 PM
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18. Yeah, lake effect. I hear ya.
You know that arrowhead-shaped piece of Ontario that sticks down into the heartland of the US, kind of like some sort of deranged throwing weapon? Notice that it's surrounded on three sides by lakes, and if you look at a top map, you'll also notice that most of it is a lovely bowl valley fenced off on the fourth side by the Niagara Escarpment (a sort of primordial mountain remnant). I live right in the middle of that, and there's perpetually a snow streamer parked over us (my dad the pilot's seen it from the air) -- it comes off Lake Huron and Lake Ontario, thanks to the prevailing winds. I think it's snowed every day since I got home from New York, two weeks ago, and it snowed the day before that, too.

We must have at least a half-metre of snow, which isn't as much as some places get, but it's plenty.

It could be worse... My aunt and uncle who live on Lake Huron (Kincardine, ON) had to deal with *a metre and a half* (like 4 feet or so) of snow last winter. Due to drifting, the back of their house was covered ground to eaves. Bleah.
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LosinIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 07:49 AM
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20. The drive in last night was not as white-knuckle as it has been
but a woman who was merging ahead of me did a 360. It even gave me a wicked adrenaline rush! She didn't hit anything/body.
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