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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 10:55 AM
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Poll question: If you were stranded in the desert, what would you rather see?
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dropkickpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 10:56 AM
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1. I would be troubled if I saw this
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 10:59 AM
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2. LOL-- I'm an entomologist...
...and I've always thought those tenebriionids that can do the water trick are WAY cool.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 11:49 AM
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4. I had a beetle yesterday
that was black with a red dot on its back, high up near the base of the wings. Very shiny.

Any ideas?
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 11:56 AM
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5. how big? pretty good sized...?
Anything like this:



That's a silphid burying beetle, pretty common.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 12:10 PM
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6. No, smallish (about 1/2-3/4 inch?) and with only one BRIGHT red dot
:shrug:
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 12:51 PM
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7. a lampyrid...?
Edited on Sun Jun-10-07 12:57 PM by mike_c
One dot, or one dot on each side?



or



Both are Lampyridae-- the firefly family.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 12:56 PM
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8. No, no, no...
Edited on Sun Jun-10-07 12:57 PM by XemaSab
The red dot (which was black widow red) was at or near the base of the elytra behind the head.

Edit: in general, it looked a bit like a dung beetle, only I've never seen one with red on it before.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 01:02 PM
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9. maybe a melyrid-- their colors vary....
Edited on Sun Jun-10-07 01:02 PM by mike_c
The amount of red on the elytra varies from a lot down to the anterior two red spots. This was the best pic I could find of the red spotted morph-- it still has some red posteriorly, but some have just the anterior spots.



I'm done guessing! Post a pic, dammit!
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 01:09 PM
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10. Confession time: I didn't do well in zoology because all the little names for
all the little parts of all the little critters? Notsogood at remembering.

So that little triangular area at the top of the elytra next to the head? Or maybe it's not the head but the thorax?

At any rate, color that area red, and color the rest of the animal glossy black.

And just for you:

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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 01:23 PM
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11. LOL-- yep, that's part of the thorax, specifically the pronotum....
Edited on Sun Jun-10-07 01:24 PM by mike_c
The elytra are borne on the thorax, too.

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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 01:27 PM
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12. Here's a winning picture
Edited on Sun Jun-10-07 01:28 PM by XemaSab


Not the pronotum, not the elytra, but the area where the three meet.

Red.

Pronotum + elytra = black.

Scutellum? :shrug:
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 01:37 PM
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13. ok, the red part in that pic is the pronotum....\
Edited on Sun Jun-10-07 01:37 PM by mike_c
...which is the dorsum of the first thoracic segment. The scutellum is that little upside down triangle below the pronotum, between the bases of the elytra. The elytra are attached to the second thoracic segment, and the membranous wings, hidden by the elytra, are attached to the third thoracic segment. The legs are attached to the first, second, and third thoracic segments respectively.

I'll make an entomologist out of you yet! Notice the conspicuous lack of feathers? I knew you'd be impressed by that....
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 01:38 PM
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14. So what was it?
I ruled out red-winged blackbird already. :D
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 01:43 PM
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15. I dunno-- red on black is such a common aposomatic color pattern...
...that there are just LOTS of beetles matching that general description.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 10:14 PM
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16. Would it help is I said it *might* be a bug?
I went to the Santa Barbara Museum of Natural History and they had a display that had similar looking critters next to the bugs? :shrug:

But they looked like beetles at a cursory glance. :P
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 10:06 AM
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17. maybe an assassin bug (Reduviidae)?
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 10:11 PM
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18. Might have been
Looked like a beetle at a cursory glance. :P
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 11:36 AM
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3. Does Oasis have water on their tour bus?
If so, I'd rather see them. But if they're just going to prance around, I'll take the bugs...
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