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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 03:25 AM
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Carlos Menica is such a fraud
"That Mexican accent from where I grew up."
just now on Conan.

Ned Arnel Mencia was born in San Pedro Sula, Honduras.


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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 03:28 AM
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1. I grew up with a bunch of Mexicans in my neighborhood...
Edited on Thu Jul-12-07 03:28 AM by Drunken Irishman
I don't have a Mexican accent.
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 03:47 AM
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3. My point is that he didn't grow up in Mexico
yet he pretends that he did. He was raised in LA and attended Cal State LA.

He also steals material.

Hondurans are not Mexicans. I would love to hear a Honduran comic take on the world instead of this pretender.

Hey, Ned. What are you ashamed of?

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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 03:56 AM
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5. His mother is Mexican, besides...
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 10:38 AM
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16. His mother is not Mexican.
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 06:02 PM
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23. Take it up with Comedy Central and NPR.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 10:37 AM
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14. I know...
I was proving your point. He's lying about his Mexican accent through some BS line that he got it through growing up in a Mexican hood.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 10:37 AM
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15. .
Edited on Thu Jul-12-07 10:37 AM by Drunken Irishman
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 06:20 PM
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27. I've got Mexicans in my neighborhood. They don't appreciate Honduran fakers!
eom
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 03:44 AM
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2. Not only did you miss the point of the joke but...
Edited on Thu Jul-12-07 03:46 AM by ellisonz
His mother is Mexican and he was raised in East LA by his aunt and uncle who I assume to be his maternal relatives.

So he's not a fraud...and I mean really, Carlos is a just a stage name...Ned Arnel was given her maiden name of Mencia by his mother at the time of his birth.

:eyes:
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 03:51 AM
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4. Oh, it was a joke!
My bad then.

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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 03:59 AM
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6. So what exactly is your problem with Carlos Mencia then?
That he doesn't acknowledge his Hondouran side properly in his key word: comedy?
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 04:06 AM
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7. My biggest problem is that he's not funny
My second biggest problem is that he steals jokes.

Not just jokes but entire routines.

http://www.break.com/index/carlos_mencia_stealing_jokes_from_cosby.html

But, if you like him, more power to you.

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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 04:20 AM
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8. I don't find him particularly funny (Dave Chapelle is funny)...
But I don't think you get to poo-poo him just because he makes a joke about speaking English with a Mexican accent and spent the first few years of his life in Honduras...since when were you the all things Latin American gatekeeper?

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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 04:34 AM
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9. I'm not anyone's gatekeeper
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 06:16 PM
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24. Joe Rogan is a little bitch.
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 06:45 PM
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30. ...
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 07:52 PM
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32. That's because Hondurans == not funny. Mexicans == freakin' hilarious
nt
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 06:16 PM
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25. interesting
My Spanish teacher in college, who was from Majorca, said that over there they take their mother's name and it was really hard for her to get used to going by her husbands name...she even kind of denounced it in class, saying that she didn't consider her real name to be "Ashbrook". I'm not a Mencia fan but it's interesting there is more gray than black and white in the facts of this.
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 06:26 PM
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28. Not only that...but according to wikipedia:
Ned Arnel Mencia was born in San Pedro Sula, Honduras, the seventeenth of eighteen children. At the time of his birth, his mother, Magdelena Mencía from Mexico, was engaged in a domestic dispute with his father, Honduran Roberto Holness, and declined to give her son his biological father's last name.<1> The name appearing on his birth certificate is "Ned Arnel Mencía", although Mencia has said that out of respect for his biological father he went by the Holness name anyway, and was known as "Ned Holness" until he was eighteen years old.<2>

Mencia was raised in East Los Angeles, California by his aunt Consuelo and uncle Pablo Mencia. By his own admission, staying out of trouble was difficult while growing up, but with the help of his family he excelled in school and stayed out of gangs. He majored in electrical engineering at California State University, Los Angeles, but left early to pursue a career in comedy after a successful performance at an open mic night at The Laugh Factory. He also has an older brother named Joseph Mencia who often appears on Carlos' program Mind of Mencia.
Mencia currently lives with his wife, Amy, in the Los Angeles area in California.They have one child, Lucas Pablo Mencia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Mencia
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mikeytherat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 06:35 AM
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10. Actually his name is Ned Holness. His mother is Honduran, his dad German.
mikey_the_rat
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 08:16 AM
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11. absolute fraud and a joke thief. nt.
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 08:26 AM
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12. If he's going to steal jokes...
you'd think he'd at least swipe the funny ones.
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 08:54 AM
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13. Theres a video around of Joe Rogan calling him out on stage...
at some comedy club with specific jokes and comedians he has stolen them from.
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musiclawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 10:56 AM
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17. I like Carlos Mencia
As I've said here before, if you are not from the West Coast, you won't find him nearly as funny. That's why I'm amazed he got a national show. So he steals jokes? Perhaps. He's still funny, no less so than Dave Chappell.
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 11:55 AM
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20. Stealing jokes isn't just a "no big deal" sort of thing, though...
as a writer, I'd be pretty livid if someone plagiarized my work.

Or what if a band ripped off lyrics or music from another band? Heck, you can even sue in these examples. I haven't heard of comedians being able to do that, but it's certainly in the same ballpark.
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musiclawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 12:46 PM
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22. No one here approves of stealing
All I'm saying is that he's funny. He should give credit to the writer when he uses someone's line in that case. I'm not aware of any published case re: a joke stealing copyrignt. Perhaps Carlos will be the first big name defendant.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 11:00 AM
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18. What do you think they speak in Honduras, Swedish?
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 11:51 AM
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19. The fraud part is that he is on the COMEDY channel
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 11:55 AM
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21. You didn't know?
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 06:20 PM
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26. It seems Mitch Clem has a comic for every topic...
Edited on Thu Jul-12-07 06:20 PM by primate1
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name not needed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 06:31 PM
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29. That he does.




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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 07:38 PM
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31. Bananarchy...i love it.
:rofl:
incidentally, mencia is a stealing sack of no-talent shit.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 07:53 PM
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33. Looks like another if-i-make-fun -of-brown-folks-maybe -white-folks-will-like-me kinda guy.
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