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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 05:49 PM
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Poll question: Your favorite Beethoven composition
Edited on Fri Sep-14-07 05:57 PM by brentspeak
Okay, it's not exactly fair or even appropriate to compare a full-blown symphony to some short little piece like Fur-elise (which Beethoven probably tossed-off in his sleep), but I'll make a poll anyway.





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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 05:57 PM
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1. String Quartet Op 95
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 06:01 PM
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2. Definitely Moonlight Sonata...
but that one movement in the ninth... the one Keith uses in his intro... that one's a very close second.

He's the best. EVER.
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AnotherGreenWorld Donating Member (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 06:15 PM
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4. Have you heard Gilels' interpretation?
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 06:28 PM
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8. I do not believe I have...
I will check that out... thanks! :D
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 10:45 PM
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30. "Moonlight" for me, too!
But evidently, Beethoven himself wasn't fond of it. He once wrote in a letter: "Everyone is always clamoring for that little C minor sonata! Surely I have written better things?"
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AnotherGreenWorld Donating Member (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 11:14 PM
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32. It's too bad his doctor killed him...I'm sure he still had a few masterpieces left in him, too.
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AnotherGreenWorld Donating Member (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 06:08 PM
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3. The Tempest (Kempff)
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 06:25 PM
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5. Symphony #7, II: Allegretto, is hauntingly beautiful
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 06:27 PM
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6. The Ninth, movements 2, 3 and 4
I hate classical, but love Beethoven and Bach. Everyone else, with the exception of Ravel for Bolero, can kiss off.
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ironflange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 10:12 PM
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24. What's wrong with the first movement?
It's easily the best of the four.


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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 06:28 PM
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7. Ninth Symphony, 2nd Movement
Genius.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 06:29 PM
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9. I concur. nt
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MANative Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 07:38 PM
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10. Always loved the Pathetique...
It was difficult to learn, but was thereafter my "go to" piece when I needed to get out my frustrations! That said, Beethoven has always been my single favorite composer, and I gravitated to his works for the entire 20 years that I was actively involved in playing the classics. Fingers don't work so well anymore!
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 07:45 PM
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11. The last 3 piano sonatas, Opus 109, 110 and 111.
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 07:46 PM
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12. "Take The Skinheads Bowling"
Oh wait, you mean the OTHER Beethoven...

Outside of the 9th Symphony (the entire composition - I can't favor one movement over the other), I love his Violin Concerto, especially the performance of it by Anne-Sophie Mutter and the New York Philharmonic.

I would rank his 5th Piano Concerto as my third favorite by him.

As for his overtures, "The Ruins of Athens".

Let's make it five with his 4th String Quartet in C Minor.
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 07:52 PM
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13. Whenever I hear fur Elise, I think about the time....
in 1982 that I was in China and visiting a farming commune somewhere near Shanghai. We were standing in a street near the school and the local guide was explaining something. From an open window came the sounds of a student practicing fur Elise on the piano...whoever was playing was pretty good, kept doing it over and over again to get it right.

It seemed incongruous to hear such western music in that foreign a setting. China was LOTS different 25 years ago than it is now. It was the very start of the modernization. I would not recognize the country that I visited today for the most part.
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 08:51 PM
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14. Beethoven's 7th, second movement.
I love that one. Maybe it's just because us strings got the best part though. :)
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Dr. Strange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 09:45 PM
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21. Niiiiice!
That would be my second choice, right behind "Moonlight Sonata."
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 02:15 AM
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35. I'm a violinist, not a pianist. :) Although I did teach myself to play the first couple of pages
of the Moonlight.
I also taught myself to play the first chord of the Pathetique... and realized that there was no way in hell I could learn the rest. :)
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deepthought42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 09:32 PM
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15. You want me to pick one???
Edited on Fri Sep-14-07 09:33 PM by deepthought42
Honestly, music theory was not my favorite subject, but Beethoven is one of my favorite composers, from symphonies like the 5th and 9th (especially the 4th mvmt) to his piano sonatas such as Pathetique, Fur Elise, etc...


I'll just...go now... :freak:


Edited cuz i no can speel ;)
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AwakeAtLast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 09:35 PM
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16. I love the Choral Fantasy
I've sung the Soprano solo and it still holds a place in my heart.

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ironflange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 10:19 PM
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26. I've done it, in the chorus
What a hoot. Great fun.


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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 09:37 PM
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17. the piano concerto known as "The Emperor"
I don't know which number that one is...
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 09:38 PM
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18. The 5th
My favorite of his piano concertos.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 09:44 PM
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20. i agree with that. second movement is one of the most beautiful pieces i've ever heard...
:P
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 08:52 AM
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40. I'm with you - his 5th Piano Concerto is his best work.
Among tons of other material he wrote that comes in a close 2nd.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 09:42 PM
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19. Which one is called the "Dance" Symphony? That's my favorite.
"Pastoral" is #2.
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ironflange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 10:21 PM
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27. That would be the Seventh
"The Apotheosis of the Dance," as Herr Wagner put it.


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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 11:18 PM
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45. {{Scrambling to look up the word...}} Thanks! I couldn't remember.
Edited on Sat Sep-15-07 11:19 PM by Radio_Lady
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 09:46 PM
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22. In the 1950s, my father did this pastel painting of Beethoven. (PHOTO)
Last year, I sold it through a consignment shop -- I just hope it ended up in a good home!

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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 11:33 AM
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41. Very nice. Dark and foreboding.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 11:26 PM
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46. Appreciate your comment, BrentSpeak! I was sad to sell it, but --
it needed to be preserved and reframed -- the paper was almost crumbled away and I didn't have the time, money, or the inclination to restore it.

Everyone in the family thought the picture was very depressing; and no one has much musical talent. My son-in-law used to play the piano, but now has taken up the ukelele!

Dad -- who was Jewish all his life -- also did a painting of the "Pieta" -- the Virgin Mary with the lifeless form of Jesus on her lap. He had the pleasure of giving that remarkable painting to a local Catholic Church in North Miami, Florida, where he was a lawyer, councilman, vice-mayor and judge.

He was a real Renaissance man! Dad died in October 1988 and I wish we had had more time together.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 10:02 PM
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23. I bought a lovely music box in Solvang that plays "Ode to Joy"
And it scared the crap out of my kids when they were little for some reason.
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ironflange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 10:17 PM
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25. Hard to choose, I love so many of them
If I had to pick, it would be the String Quartet in C# minor, Op 131. The greatest of the late great quartets, where Beethoven set the bar so high it has never been cleared, and never will be. ocelot's earlier post, re the last three piano sonatas, is hard to beat, too, especially when Schnabel plays them. Let's throw in the Hammerklavier while we're at it.


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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 11:34 AM
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42. Some music critics say that about Beethoven's late string quartets
That they were the pinnacle of his career.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 10:27 PM
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28. "Take the Skinheads Bowling"
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Glorfindel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 10:42 PM
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29. "Wellington's Victory" - a rather odd composition that appeals to me
I think Beethoven had a good time composing it. After that, the 6th Symphony "All he had was eight little notes, just eight little notes had he...."
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 10:49 PM
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31. I'm fond of Piano Concerto No. 3.
Especially the first movement.

But I also love Symphonies 3, 5, 6, 7 and 9.
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momophile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 11:29 PM
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33. my husband is practicing 'fur-elise' at this very second
coincidence? I think not.

or maybe...:shrug:
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 11:31 PM
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47. My mother used to play that piece. I always think of her when I hear it now.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 11:33 PM
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48. Boston's classical station's listeners chose the 9th Symphony as #1 in top 100 pieces of music.
Edited on Sat Sep-15-07 11:36 PM by Radio_Lady
We lived there for 30 years and I think it was #1 each and every year.

Here's the rest of the list if you're interested:

http://www.wcrb.com/pages/pages.php?page=13

1. Symphony #9 (Beethoven)
2. Four Seasons (Vivaldi)
3. Symphony #5 (Beethoven)
4. Canon in D (Pachelbel)
5. Symphony #9, New World Symphony (Dvorak)
6. Symphony #6 (Beethoven)
7. Adagio for Strings (Barber)
8. Piano Concerto #2 (Rachmaninoff)
9. Brandenburg Concertos (Bach)
10. Appalachian Spring (Copland)
11. Clair de Lune (Debussy)
12. Orchestral Suite #1 (Bach)
13. Moldau (Smetana)
14. Symphony #7 (Beethoven)
15. Eine Kleine Nachtmusik (Mozart)
16. Symphony #1 (Brahms)
17. Rhapsody in Blue (Gershwin)
18. Rhapsody on a Theme of Paganini (Rachmaninoff)
19. Water Music (Handel)
20. Meditation from Thais ( Massenet)
21. Violin Concerto in D (Beethoven)
22. Fanfare for the Common Man (Copland)
23. Scheherazade (Rimsky-Korsakov)
24. Clarinet Concerto in A (Mozart)
25. 1812 Ov. (Tchaikovsky)
26. Requiem (Mozart)
27. Moonlight Sonata (Beethoven)
28. Violin Concerto #1 (Bruch)
29. Pictures at an Exhibition (Mussorgsky)
30. The Planets (Holst)
31. Serenade for Strings (Tchaikovsky)
32. Jesu, Joy of Mans Desiring (Bach)
33. Variations on a Shaker Theme (Copland)
34. Blue Danube (Strauss)
35. Finlandia (Sibelius)
36. Symphony #40 (Mozart)
37. Marriage of Figaro (Mozart)
38. Piano Concerto #3 (Rachmaninoff)
39. Symphony #3 (Beethoven)
40. Carmina burana (Orff)
41. Fantasia on a Theme by Thomas Tallis (Vaughan Williams)
42. Our Town (Copeland)
43. Piano Concerto #5 (Beethoven)
44. Swan Lake (Tchaikovsky)
45. Symphony #1 (Mahler)
46. Symphony #41 (Mozart)
47. Toccata and Fuge in D minor (Bach)
48. William Tell Overture (Rossini)
49. Cello Suites (Bach)
50. Fur Elise (Beethoven)
51. Lark Ascending (R.V. Williams)
52. Mass in B-minor (Bach)
53. Nocturne in E (Chopin)
54. Emperor Waltz (Strauss)
55. Pavane (Faure)
56. Piano Concerto #1 (Tchaikovsky)
57. Piano Concerto #20 (Mozart)
58. Symphony #3 (Saint-Saens)
59. Symphony #4 (Brahms)
60. Violin Concerto in e-minor (Mendelssohn)
61. Adagio in G-minor (Albinoni)
62. Andante Spianato & Polonaise (Chopin)
63. Fantastic Scherzo (Suk)
64. St. Mathew Passion (Bach)
65. Trout Quintet (Schubert)
66. Unfinished Symphony (Schubert)
67. Violin Concerto in D (Tchaikovsky)
68. Bolero (Ravel)
69. Carnival of the Animals (Saint-Saens)
70. Cello Concerto (Dvorak)
71. Egmont Overture (Beethoven)
72. Enigma Variations-Nimrod (Elgar)
73. O Mio Babbino Caro (Puccini)
74. Romance #2 (Beethoven)
75. Symphony #35 (Mozart)
76. Symphony #35 (Tchaikovsky)
77. Dance of the Blessed Spirits (Gluck)
78. Danse Macabre (Saint-Saens)
79. Eclogue (Finzi)
80. Five Variants of Dives and Lazarus (R.V. Williams)
81. Goldberg Variations (Bach)
82. In the Steppes of Central Asia (Borodin)
83. Hallelujah Chorus (Handel)
84. Magic Flute (Mozart)
85. Nessun Dorma (Puccini)
86. Piano Concerto #1 (Chopin)
87. Piano Concerto #2 (Brahms)
88. Piano Concerto #21 (Mozart)
89. Piano Concerto #23 (Mozart)
90. Pomp & Circumstance (Elgar)
91. Romeo & Juliet (Prokofiev)
92. Symphonie Fantastique (Berlioz)
93. Symphony #2 (Brahms)
94. Symphony #3 (Mahler)
95. Symphony #8 (Dvorak)
96. Tannhauser (Wagner)
97. Warsaw Concerto (Addinsell)
98. Zigeunerweisen (Sarasate)
99. American Quartet (Dvorak)
100. Concierto de Aranjuez (Rodrigo)
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 11:33 PM
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34. It's cliche to say, but Symphony No. 9 is freakin' sick...
absolutely unbelievable. If you're going to rule out symphonies, than I go with Piano Concerto No. 6.
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 07:10 AM
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36. Late String Quartets
#s 12 through 16

Especially Op. 131 in C# minor.
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Fox Mulder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 07:17 AM
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37. I love Moonlight Sonata.
And Fur Elise
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tjwmason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 07:49 AM
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38. 10th Symphony.
;)

Though I do actually play Beethoven during thunderstorms, normally 5th Piano Concerto.
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Dr. Strange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 01:59 PM
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44. Have you been listening to the Trans-Siberian Orchestra?
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GCP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 08:34 AM
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39. The Pastorale
Gorgeous
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IntravenousDemilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 01:24 PM
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43. I have to agree with Dark Tirade -- 7th Symphony, 2nd (slow) movement
Beethoven does magic with a bare minimum of notes. It's a marvel of economy as well as being one of the most noble and moving passages ever written.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 11:05 AM
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49. last kick
:kick:
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JitterbugPerfume Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:19 PM
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50. Pathetique is my favorite
butI just love Beethoven

period
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MikeH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 06:35 PM
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51. Very hard to think of just one favorite
I always feel a little put on the spot when I am asked to say which of a number of very good things is my favorite. And I always hate to end up slighting anything that is good.

The Pathetique sonata is obviously very popular on this thread, and it is one I like a lot. I fondly remember listening to the late Karl Haas and his program Adventures in Good Music, which I always listened to whenever I could. (For many years my local classical music station would broadcast the program in the morning and at night.) I enjoyed the second movement of the sonata opening his program. And I like hearing the entire sonata, particularly the first movement.

I have to say I miss Karl Haas.

Of course I like his symphonies, particularly the 5th and the 9th of his well known symphonies. I like the somewhat spooky 3rd movement of his 5th symphony, which segues into the rousing 4th movement. And I like the first three movements of his 9th symphony, especially the 2nd movement, as they lead up to the final movement.

I also particularly like his 2nd and 4th symphonies, which are two of his less known and less frequently performed symphonies. I especially like the bucolic 2nd movement of his 2nd symphony.

I remember one time Karl Haas chose Beethoven as the mystery composer on his monthly Mystery Composer Quiz. He had to dig up some really obscure works of Beethoven in order to hide his identity at the beginning of the program. For the clincher at the end of the program, he chose the final movement of Beethoven's 4th symphony, the 4th being one of his least frequently performed symphonies.

I like Beethoven's piano concertos; it is hard to think of one particular favorite among them.

I definitely like his Choral Fantasy; a precursor to the final movement of his 9th symphony.

I like his Pastorale Piano Sonata, No. 15. I find it very soothing, especially in the evening.

Of course I have probably left out a lot.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 06:41 PM
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52. Picking the 9th is probably like admitting you like "Stairway to Heaven"...
Too expected...

But it really is the best...
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