HawkerHurricane
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Thu Jan-29-04 12:27 PM
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Navy now limits access to DU! |
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This is BS.
This lovely morning, I discovered that the Navy's internet cafe only allowed one hour of 'quota time' to DU and 'other' websites (I don't know what other sites...). Well, I spent about 40 minutes before going to work on DU, then logged out and headed to work... Since I'm on limited duty for medical reasons, I get to come back to the internet cafe, where I got on a different computer and discovered... I have 10 minutes left! And it told me this before I logged into DU! In other words, the Navy's internet cafe at 32nd street Naval Station limits access to DU to 1 hour a day TOTAL for all personnel! If more than one person wants to log on, too bad. This is a internet cafe for all hands, it has 20 odd computers, and is used by personnel from all over the base... After it bumps me off DU, I'm going to FR and seeing if it does the same thing. I'll post my results on this thread after I get home this afternoon.
I'm pissed.
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Thu Jan-29-04 12:28 PM
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1. interesting - I know a guy in the Marines who comes here |
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and he says he can't post from his PC on base.
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Thu Jan-29-04 12:29 PM
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So much for those freedoms you've fought for...
I'm interested in the results of your experiment.
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Thu Jan-29-04 12:30 PM
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3. That is a lousy thing HawkerHurricane |
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let us know friend...:hi:
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Thu Jan-29-04 12:35 PM
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4. you should check and see if the same applies to free republic. |
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I wonder if it's just DU they're freaking out about.
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Thu Jan-29-04 12:36 PM
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5. Can you post the message you get? |
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If possible, it would provide some clues as to what blocking software they are using
Is there anyone in your technology support group you can politely ask? Maybe a "gee what's the policy we have on Internet use? Can you tell me which sites are time-restricted?"
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Thu Jan-29-04 09:34 PM
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19. The operator had no clue... |
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and paged his computer guru.
I'll see if I can post the page tommorrow...
(lets see, email it to my home address through AOL, then when I get home post it...)
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Thu Jan-29-04 12:36 PM
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for subjecting yourself to an hour of freeperville. Make certain you shower afterwards - use lye soap.
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Thu Jan-29-04 12:40 PM
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7. He'll probably be there for a bit over an hour |
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Just enough to find out they're NOT blocking FR.
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Thu Jan-29-04 03:04 PM
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Thu Jan-29-04 12:46 PM
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I'll be interested to know what you find out.
Perhaps it's that the machine can't spend more than 1 hour on any one site. You know, that someone might be using the machine heavy-duty for free, instead of light catching up, couple of emails, etc.
It takes me an hour just to slog through GD2004. :silly:
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Thu Jan-29-04 12:47 PM
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9. Yes keep us posted as what happens |
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Thu Jan-29-04 12:55 PM
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10. I wish I had a way to block DU after an hour's usage....... |
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'cause sometimes it's rather hard to leave on my own.
:)
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Thu Jan-29-04 12:57 PM
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11. If it's the internet cafe then "non-work related" can't be the excuse |
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An hour time limit per person makes sense, but not per site.
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Thu Jan-29-04 02:23 PM
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12. Oh that Rummy's a rascal isn't he! |
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That weasel SOB is at it again. Must be they want to limit the opportunities that servicemen/women have to find out how their benefits are being whittled away by these assholes.
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Thu Jan-29-04 02:44 PM
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13. Find out if they are doing that to other liberal sites, |
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such as Buzzflash. I wonder if you would have free access to Drudge for as long as you desired. Freedom indeed. Take care. :hi:
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Thu Jan-29-04 02:47 PM
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Some French members of a military history discussion group I participate in have noted that they can no longer access ".mil" websites.
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Thu Jan-29-04 03:19 PM
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16. That can be their isp though |
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Thu Jan-29-04 03:38 PM
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17. or the .mil servers are blocking requests from french ISPs |
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Thu Jan-29-04 09:33 PM
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Note that I have no 'why' in this answer, only what...
The server (which serves 20 computers at this cafe) bans outright some sites (porn, hate, gamebling, etc) and restricts access to 1 hour per day to others... that's TOTAL for all of the 'restricted' sites at all the computers... one computer spends a hour on one of these sites, then all are blocked for the rest of the day... the clock resets at midnight...
Sites that were blocked... DU Bartcop MediaWhoresOnline SkepticsAnnotatedBible Yahoo! Message boards only ebay
Sites NOT blocked Free Republic MediaHorseOnline (the other block might just be on the word 'whores') Daily Howler AOL and several blogs that I accessed through MediaHorse.
I do not know what the scam is... the operator (a nice guy) is no computer expert; he's just the guy who serves the coffee and makes sure the printer has paper.
More info as events warrent
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Thu Jan-29-04 09:39 PM
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20. OMG You HAVE TO REPORT THIS! |
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Go to any remotley Left wing, or even decent right wing paper and tell them.
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Fri Jan-30-04 10:24 AM
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28. You should complain to your congressmen and senators. |
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Even if they're republicans, they should realise that blocking democratic sites and not republican sites is beyond wrong.
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Thu Jan-29-04 09:44 PM
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21. That is fascinating, there is no RATIONAL reason why DU is on that list |
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Edited on Thu Jan-29-04 09:44 PM by rumguy
and FR is not...
this is nutso!
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Sat Jan-31-04 01:49 PM
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on that one-why FR but not DU?:silly:
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Thu Jan-29-04 09:47 PM
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22. TOTAL BULLSHIT, Hawk! |
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I'll be interested in a follow-up. Let us know if there's anyone we can email to express our disgust. The taxpayers (I assume) are paying for Navy bandwidth, and we don't like (however limited) censorship.
I can't believe that shit.
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Thu Jan-29-04 09:50 PM
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23. Anyone ever think this is the work of freepers? |
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Like for instance, maybe a local freeper got a hold of someone on that base, or even knew someone, who would be able to do something like this, and told them that DU is anti-American and hates the military. Maybe I'm being paranoid, but maybe Freepland has a thing where they see how many places they can get DU banned from. DU does hold a special place in their hearts ya know.
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Fri Jan-30-04 10:10 AM
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25. That's what crossed my mind. |
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I can't state with any certainty that it isn't some bizarre interpretation of Patriot Act II, but the U.S. Navy doesn't seem on the face of it to be actively engaged in censorship.
I'm wondering if anyone has other contacts in the active Navy, - at a completely different location. That could help establish a baseline of the activity. If it's in San Diego AND Norfolk, VA, - then yeah, maybe it's the Navy. And if it's only in San Diego, - it's probably some cyberthug with a Freepish political bent.
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Fri Jan-30-04 10:21 AM
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26. The scary thing is that it could be the work of the Freepers |
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Edited on Fri Jan-30-04 10:23 AM by Jack Rabbit
who work in the Pentagon.
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Fri Jan-30-04 09:53 AM
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24. from the warning page |
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COMMAND NAVY REGION SOUTHWEST
NAVAL STATION SAN DIEGO
ACCESS TO THIS WEB PAGE IS RESTRICTED
This page has been filtered by
If access this is authorized contact system administrator
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Fri Jan-30-04 10:22 AM
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27. Please keep us appraised |
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I want to know who is behind this.
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Fri Jan-30-04 10:37 AM
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29. So do I, and then what we can do |
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I am so sorry Hawkeye.
This is an assault and an insult, not only to Navy personnel, but to all left thinking Americans. Our Constitution gives us the freedom to think, read and speak as we choose. DU, Bartcop and the others you mention do not jeopardize national security. The Right Wing thinking people do not have ownership to patriotism or flag-waving. I love my country, just as you do, and we are both entitled under our Constitution to disagree with the current political administration.
If there is anything we can do, I am ready, willing and able to get involved.
This is an election year, I suppose they believe that limiting access to left leaning sites will give them an edge.
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Sat Jan-31-04 01:43 PM
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"This is an election year, I suppose they believe that limiting access to left leaning sites will give them an edge."
Little do they realize that I went from Middle Right to Middle Left BECAUSE they limited my access to non right wing radio (Rush, take a bow, you converted me to the opposite party) in the early '90's. I couldn't take 24/7 bs...
AND I went farther to the left every time I came across another Reich Wing arsehole with a phone arguement in TV, radio, and print... Fox News has convinced me that all the lying is done by the right about the left...
The Republican Party's spokespeople have convinced me that they are unworthy to hold power. And they did it by being the only voice in the media.
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Sat Jan-31-04 01:54 PM
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32. The consensus of the IT staff at my company |
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is that it is probably the result of a rogue RW net admin, and not Navy policy.
They lean right, themselves, but find the idea that the military would block left leaning political sites, and not also right, abhorrant.
Why don't you go straight to a higher up, and see if the Navy has taken a stance on this. If it is a rogue admin, his supervisor might take a dim view of his actions.
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Sat Jan-31-04 02:19 PM
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33. Censorship of your freedoms should not stand |
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since you serve to guarantee those freedoms for all of us.
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Sat Jan-31-04 02:35 PM
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34. Reminds me of 1968...... |
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the time I was enjoying (along with others) "Laugh In" @ a NCO club @ Camp Pendlton. Up walks a F%$king lifer who shuts off the TV. He explains to us irrate Marines that we are only allowed to watch news & sports in his club........ I guess Rowan & Martin's satire was bad for our morale.... And then, the crazy bastards couldn't understand why I didn't want to re-enlist in their fine organization!
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