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Wed Oct-24-07 04:02 PM
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what should be the punishment of a teacher who says "fuck" in class |
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Wed Oct-24-07 04:06 PM
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donate a little cash, something the class agrees on... and the kids have to do it too (in addition to whatever the school rules are) and at the end of the term or the year, do something nice with it or donate it.
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Wed Oct-24-07 07:40 PM
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11. I have to pay $20 to Doctors Without Borders if I use certain words in class ... |
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Edited on Wed Oct-24-07 07:41 PM by Lisa
I allowed my (college) students to choose a word (we had a tie so I agreed to abide by both choices). This is in addition to the f-word and its derivatives. (Partly I did this to encourge the kids to pay attention. They've caught me twice so far this year.)
Interesting that the words they chose were for the most part, not obscene or profane.
I admit to having used the f-word on occasion, for deliberate effect, to emphasize situations that are particularly illogical or unfair. No more than once or twice a year, though. Otherwise it loses its impact.
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Wed Oct-24-07 04:13 PM
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2. Write on the board one hundred times.... |
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I will not use coarse expletives in front of the children, for fuck's sake.
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Wed Oct-24-07 04:13 PM
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3. Depends on age of students in class |
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I'm no prude but for grades K-5 that kind of language is out of line.
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Thu Oct-25-07 09:47 AM
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33. high school seniors - here is the context (daughter's class) |
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Edited on Thu Oct-25-07 09:48 AM by asSEENonTV
speech/forensics/debate class to be specific
context: intense research, extemp speech writing in-class assignment. The 20 kids who are competing in the weekend tournament are working hard / three seniors who are not competing, contemplating dropping the class because of the work load, and not really interested in debate / speech, are constantly interrupting. The teacher/coach got annoyed, sent them out, they came back from the office still rowdy, so he said, "just sit down, read the papaer, and shut the fuck up!"
They freaked out and went back to the office to turn the teacher in.
Nothing has happened yet. My daughter said the teacher (who she really likes) has a meeting with the principal and the parents of the kids whom he yelled at.
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Thu Oct-25-07 09:55 AM
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I think a warning to the teacher is sufficient. But I hate to see a teacher get "in trouble" for acting like a normal human being.
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Thu Oct-25-07 11:40 AM
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36. If I were those kids' parent... |
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...I would tell them, "I have had enough of this bad behavior. When your teacher tells you to shut the fuck up, I expect you to do it!"
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Wed Oct-24-07 04:30 PM
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4. A visit from Mr. Mackey singing, "It's Easy, MMMKay" |
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Wed Oct-24-07 05:36 PM
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5. My 7th grade teacher, Sister Margaret one day said, |
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"you're all a bunch of little fucking bastards shut up" in fact she followed it up with "That's right, you're all a bunch of little fucking bastards now shut up." Definitely got all of our attention. Years later I asked one of her fellow teachers, our fourth grade teacher, if she hard heard about this. she said, "oh yes, we were all very supportive, Margaret was right you were all a bunch of little fucking bastards."
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Wed Oct-24-07 05:50 PM
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6. I took Human Sexuality in 9th grade for a quarter |
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The teacher started naming of ways to say "two people having sex"...copulate,sexual relations, esp. This kid raised his hand and said,"You are forgetting one word!" The teacher replied,"What word is that?" The student said it starts with F! The teacher said,"You're afraid to say fuck in my class?" I about fell out of my chair!!
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Wed Oct-24-07 05:57 PM
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IOW, something less than the punishment deserved by a teacher who actually fucks in class.
PS, what does "IOW" stand for?
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Wed Oct-24-07 06:17 PM
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Edited on Wed Oct-24-07 06:18 PM by gmoney
Reminds me of this great old song...
Fly me to the moon And let me play among the stars Let me see what spring is like On Jupiter and Mars In other words hold my hand In other words darling kiss me
Fill my life with song And let me sing forevermore You are all I hope for All I worship and adore In other words please be true In other words I love you
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Wed Oct-24-07 06:19 PM
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9. mouth washed out with soap? |
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Wed Oct-24-07 06:20 PM
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10. Do we punish students who say the F-word? |
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Wed Oct-24-07 07:45 PM
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13. I'm a teacher, and you're totally wrong. |
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Wed Oct-24-07 07:58 PM
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18. Back when I was in school, (warning - graphic) |
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Edited on Wed Oct-24-07 08:00 PM by HypnoToad
many teachers didn't care.
Heck, we had students wearing vulgar heavy metal t-shirts and nobody was stopped. (e.g. convert shirts with a picture of a toilet and a dagger wielding-fist proving the phrase "Metal up your ***".)
That was the mid-late '80s (1987).
Nice to know some schools have a sense of decency.
Mine hadn't.
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Wed Oct-24-07 07:57 PM
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17. Bzzzzzzt! Wrong answer! |
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Wed Oct-24-07 07:44 PM
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12. They should be forced to smoke an entire bag of weed before the next PTA meeting. -n/t |
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Wed Oct-24-07 07:50 PM
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14. It would probably get you a suspension in our district. |
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We are not permitted to swear around the children.
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Wed Oct-24-07 07:51 PM
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15. Some of my high school teachers said worse.....MUCH worse |
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but they were never reported for it :shrug:
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Wed Oct-24-07 07:58 PM
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20. It would have taken a student to do the reporting, now, wouldn't it? |
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Wed Oct-24-07 08:05 PM
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21. I don't know of any students who would have reported it |
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they used that word quite frequently, themselves
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Wed Oct-24-07 07:57 PM
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16. What age of student are we talking? |
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Grade school, they should be sanctioned in some way. High school, probably shouldn't but it would depend on the context. College, are you fucking kidding me? :P
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Wed Oct-24-07 07:58 PM
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19. I say "fuck" in class all the time |
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Edited on Wed Oct-24-07 08:02 PM by alcibiades_mystery
In fact, on Rate My Professor.com, one of the comments is "not afraid to drop the 'f' bomb."
Nobody's ever said a fucking thing to me about it. :-)
To quote Eddie Murphy in Beverly Hills Cop, "Foul-mouthed? Fuck you, man!"
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Wed Oct-24-07 10:17 PM
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23. "Thanks to Prof. ----, I'm not afraid to say 'fuck' in front of anybody." |
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This an actual comment from a student, who mentioned that the prof had used it in talking to his (student's) parents. The professor in question decided to cut back, eventually.
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Wed Oct-24-07 10:28 PM
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Edited on Wed Oct-24-07 10:29 PM by alcibiades_mystery
College students aren't children, though too many of them assume they should still be treated like children.
What they do with their parents is their business. I don't talk to parents. If they come to talk about the grades of their adult children (this has happened twice), I state that their son or daughter received grading standards and extensive commentary along with the grade, and I refer them to the department grade appeal mechanism. If I wanted to deal with "kids" and their parents, I could have cut out about four additional years of research (and poverty!), a substantial written work of research, and a fuckuva lot of publishing pressure. I work with adults, usually age 18-22. I worked my ass off to be in this job. It doesn't pay all that much relative to the time investment, but it's a flexible schedule, and it's professional autonomy. I sure as shit will argue for my right and expertise to teach in a way I consider effective, "fuck" included. I'll answer to administrators when my students don't accomplish course outcomes, when I start getting evals under the department mean, and when I stop winning teaching awards (four so far). And not before.
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Wed Oct-24-07 11:07 PM
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25. This was "family visiting weekend", or some such informal mix-and-mingle. |
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I'd say it served its purpose. :D
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Wed Oct-24-07 11:15 PM
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:shrug:
I guess I don't understand your post.
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Wed Oct-24-07 08:15 PM
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22. Not a single teacher ever said fuck in all the years that I spent in school... |
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Even in college!
Is it possible that the fact that I'm French-Canadian could remotely explain why it
never happened ? (in fact I'm lying,we use the word when we don't want to offend people
with "real" cursing.And we have a vast choice of profanities.On top of hour typical
French-Canucks words we also use the French one(from France)and the English one (mainly the
American English,I never heard a Quebecer say "Bloody Hell" for example.)). :)
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Wed Oct-24-07 11:45 PM
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Fry 'em all because words like that are sooooooo dangerous.
Give me a fuckin' break.
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Thu Oct-25-07 12:50 AM
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28. I guess it would depend... |
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Edited on Thu Oct-25-07 12:51 AM by regnaD kciN
...on whether it was part of a classroom or homework assignment. (Paging Mary Kay Letourneau...)
:evilgrin:
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Thu Oct-25-07 01:24 AM
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29. Fuck is the worst word that you can say! |
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Thu Oct-25-07 07:34 AM
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If it's a high school or university teacher, probably nothing.
By the age of 13 we've all heard that word before.
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Thu Oct-25-07 07:44 AM
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31. Several continuous repeated viewings of all the Battlestar Galactica DVDs. |
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They won't be able to say anything other than "frak" after that. At least I can't.
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Thu Oct-25-07 08:13 AM
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32. Preschool teacher, or professor? |
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Thu Oct-25-07 09:51 AM
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34. see post 33 above - I explain the context |
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Thu Oct-25-07 11:42 AM
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37. Yep, I like swear jar |
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Thu Oct-25-07 11:42 AM
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38. Why should it be punished? |
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The teacher should be the authority in the classroom when it comes to language.
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