Who Here Hates the New England Patriots?

[Parche]

:shrug: :shrug: :hi:

[MissMillie]

1. don't hate them because they're good!

that just makes you a poor sport.

When someone kicks your ass, shake hands, say "good job" and work at doing better next time.

That's how you'd want it if it were your team that were playing flawless ball.

[redqueen]

6. I hate them because they're good.

So I'm a poor sport. :P

[Initech]

31. Can we hate them because they're cheating douchebags instead?

[MissMillie]

33. only if you're prepared to hate the entire NFL

they've all cheated in one way or another

[THUNDER HANDS]

2. that would be me

I hate them, pretty much with every fiber of my being.

Not the whole team, just Brady and Bellicheat, specifically.

[NewJeffCT]

3. I used to hate them until this year

and, i'm still not a fan.

However, they moved up slightly in my eyes because of the "spying" incident. It wasn't that they did it, but it was the mock outrage from the rest of the NFL and the sports media. Come on - every other team in the NFL did similar, and I'm guessing every top level college team does as well.

The Pats were either more blatant about it, or else the Jets' coach hates Bellichek so much that he had a cow and turned in the Patriots for spying.

I was rolling my eyes every time I heard some sportscaster get all worked up over it.

[KitchenWitch]

4. I don't hate them, but I am sick to death of them.

[SeattleGirl]

32. Me too!

Are they the ONLY team in professional football now?

[kmla]

5. I do.

Smug bastards.

They are good. Really good. They will probably go undefeated all the way through the Super Bowl.

But if they don't, I am gonna needle the shit out of their fans.

Just because they deserve it.

[Beer Snob-50]

7. been a fan of theirs even during the late 80's when they sucked

royally (i was there christmas eve when they had maybe 10000 fans) i may get cocky when they go 19-0.

[MissMillie]

8. well, if you're enjoying them at 9-0

you're already cocky... and if you dare say "go Pats!" you're already cocky.

people around here take sports way to seriously.

If your team wins, it's ok to be joyous about it.

If your team doesn't win, say congrats to the other team.

If you don't have a team, well, I'm sure you can find something else to be happy or sad about.

[Beer Snob-50]

11. i think it is okay to be cocky if you have been with a tean

through the really bad times. i get irriated by those who start to support a team when they become winners.

and btw, i am a poor loser and i don't usually mean congrats when i shake after a loss.

[SoxFan]

21. I love this thread!

Did you ever imagine, back in the days of Rod Rust, Zeke Mowatt, and Mark Wilson, that you would hear people in a high dudgeon because the Pats were just too damn good?

I love this!

[LynneSin]

9. I have no reason to hate the team - it's their fans that annoy the bejesus out of me

:grr:

[redqueen]

10. I think hating the team cause the fans are obnoxious

is fair play.:)

[Va Lefty]

12. I agree

It's the reason I hate the redskins. Growing up in Northern Virginia in the late Seventies/early Eighties, I know all about obnoxious fans!!

[SoxFan]

13. Mr. Harrison wants to have a word with you

And he doesn't look happy!

[LynneSin]

14. But I don't hate the team - they are quite talented

I just find their fans annoying.

Perhaps we can get them some new, less annoying fans.

[redqueen]

15. I hate them for their fans AND cause they're so good.

It's a win/win. :7

[underpants]

16. meet Kyle Eckel #38

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=215&topic_id=58281&mesg_id=58281

#38-scored a TD last night against Buffalo after they went for on 4 and 1 up by 36. Eckel got the ball for 4 or 5 rushes in a row.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyle_Eckel
Upon graduating from the Naval Academy, he was recognized as his graduating class' "Anchor Man," which means he had the lowest rank of all graduates that year.<
http://www.navytimes.com/legacy/new/0-NAVYPAPER-2346524...

Former Naval Academy standout football player Kyle Eckel, now playing professionally for the Miami Dolphins, was kicked out of the Navy last month and will have to repay a portion of the cost of his Annapolis education.


Citing privacy concerns, the Navy would not characterize the specific nature of Eckel's administrative separation, saying only that it was ?involuntary.? Eckel declined an interview request through a team representative, and attempts to reach his agent were unsuccessful.

After graduation, he was assigned temporary additional duty in the Physical Education Department at the Naval Academy, Austin said. In August 2005, Eckel reported to his next temporary additional duty assignment at the Naval Academy Preparatory School in Newport, R.I., where he assisted the NAPS athletic director and coached NAPS football, Austin said.

At the same time, Eckel began practicing with the New England Patriots football team.

That was consistent with government regulations concerning outside employment activities of members of the armed services and federal government employees, Austin said. Eckel was allowed to practice with the Patriots because:

• The employment was not prohibited by statute or agency regulation.

• The employment did not require disqualification from matters central to his duties (due to conflicts of interest).

• There was no improper use of government resources.

• Eckel's employment did not detract from readiness or pose a security risk.

According to information on the National Football League Players Association Web site, Eckel?s base salary is $275,000.

Court dates

In recent months, Eckel has been battling more than just the Navy and NFL linemen. He faced two assault charges and a sex-offense charge in Anne Arundel County District Court for an August incident, according to District Court of Maryland records. The charges were later dropped. Navy officials, however, said those charges were not connected to Eckel being booted from military service.

The charges were not a factor in Ensign Eckel's separation from the Navy, Perry, the Navy Pentagon spokesman, said.

Eckel, however, could face another court appearance very soon, this time as a witness in a rape case involving former Navy football teammate Kenny Ray Morrison. In the criminal charging documents against Morrison, Eckel is identified as being present in a Washington, D.C., hotel room during a midshipman party Feb. 3.

During that party, Midshipman 1st Class Morrison is alleged to have raped a female midshipman.

The charges against Morrison allege he showed the nude or partially nude body of the female midshipman to Eckel and another male midshipman by lifting a blanket off her.

Evidence against Morrison was presented at an Article 32 hearing at the Washington Navy Yard on Nov. 2, but Eckel was not called as a witness.

The Navy would not comment Nov. 16 on whether that incident played any role in Eckel?s discharge.

Regardless, Navy officials decided Oct. 31 to boot Eckel from the service.

By law, Naval Academy graduates who do not fulfill the required follow-on service commitment must repay the education expense on a prorated basis, according to Perry.

Ensign Eckel did not fulfill his service commitment and must repay $96,229.56, Perry said.

[SoxFan]

17. Meet #18

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/colts/2003-11-04-manning-suit_x.htm

Manning claimed in his book that, while in the training room, in response to a track athlete who made a remark, Manning dropped his shorts to moon the athlete. "I did it thinking the trainer wasn't where she would see. ... Even when she did, it seemed like something she'd have laughed at, considering the environment, or shrugged off as harmless. Crude maybe, but harmless."

Naughright and her lawyer provided a different version of events. In a court filing, her lawyer wrote that she was examining Manning to see why Manning was having pain in one of his feet and was crouched behind him when "entirely unprovoked, Peyton Manning decided to pull down his shorts and sit on Dr. Naughright's head and face."

As Naughright described it in a deposition entered into the court record: "It was the gluteus maximus, the rectum, the testicles and the area in between the testicles. And all that was on my face when I pushed him up. ... To get leverage, I took my head out to push him up and off."

The court record includes a letter to Manning from former Tennessee cross country runner Malcolm Saxon, who Manning said was the intended target of the mooning. Written in December 2002, the letter reads, in part: "Bro, you have tons of class, but you have shown no mercy or grace to this lady who was on her knees seeing if you had a stress fracture. ...

"She was minding her own business when your book came out. Peyton, the way I see it, at this point, you are going to take a hit either way, if you settle out of court or if it goes to court. You might as well maintain some dignity and admit to what happened. ... Your celebrity doesn't mean you can treat folks that way. ... Do the right thing here."

In a court filing, Naughright's lawyer says his client reported the incident within hours to the Sexual Assault Crisis Center in Knoxville.

According to a filing by Naughright's lawyer, Manning at first didn't call the incident a "mooning." The lawyer wrote that Manning "denied" that anything had occurred between him and Naughright. An associate trainer, Mike Rollo, was never a witness to the incident, but he got involved because he tried to intervene to help Manning come up with a story.

[underpants]

20. The corporate wonderboy

How many endorsements does he NOT have at this point?

:eyes:

I never liked him either.

[Bake]

24. Blow me.

:rofl:

Bake

[A-Long-Little-Doggie]

18. Should I be taking this personally?

:shrug: :shrug:

[Burma Jones]

19. Not Me.......

They are not my number one team, but, since the 'Skins are pretty much out of it and I will always root for a team from Massachusetts or California over anyone besides my local teams, I am looking forward to an undefeated season.

It's also really impressive to see their near perfection........

And I like their owner a lot more than I like the 'Skins' owner.

And I root for the Red Sox

[WildEyedLiberal]

22. I love me some Patriots.

And I live in Illinois so I get my chops busted for it ALL THE TIME. So I think I deserve to be exempt from the hatred since I am a Pats fan in a very Pats-hostile area (LOTS of Colts and Bears fans round these parts, and the Colts fans especially hate the Patriots).

[Gen. Jack D. Ripper]

23. I don't hate them

But, I understand why some people do. I watched my Niners get knocked out of the playoffs three years in a row by Brett Favre and the Packers, back in the late nineties. They had our number, and because of that I developed a nice, healthy hatred of 'ol Fav-ray. As a football fan, I can't help but admire the incredible achievements of a future hall-of-famer like Favre. But, as a Niners fan, I will always hate him with every fiber of my being. Felt the same way about Michael Jordan, though with less intensity, after he beat my Jazz in the finals two straight years. I guess that's how you know you're really good, when you are hated nearly as much as you are loved.

[liberaltrucker]

27. A true fan of the game. I salute you, sir!

:patriot:

[liberaltrucker]

25. I'm working and a potential relationship in MA, so...

No Comment.

:evilgrin:

Go Broncos!

:)

[Bake]

26. I don't hate them.

I F***ING DESPISE THEM. I loathe them. For all the reasons already stated in this thread, and a few more I don't even want to think about. Oh. And also because they cheated.

Bake

[sniffa]

28. i didn't even hate them because of tony eason

or eugene chung... bobby grier.. or rod rust.. or dick machpherson.... or victor kiam....

now i'm head over heels in love with them. (though i always have been even through the awful, awful times)

[GreenPartyVoter]

29. I'm from Maine, therefore I love them

[DeposeTheBoyKing]

30. I hate them, but I hate the Colts more

Why doesn't Tom Brady get every damn endorsement like Peyton Manning does? I'd rather look at his face if it has to be ubiquitous!