THE BEST drummer to ever live...period

[backwoodsbob]

My God he is good


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuOTkrEVeb4

[Rabrrrrrr]

1. He really is. Totally, frakking amazing drummer.

I'm glad he (and Rush) is out of that oversynthesized phase, though, and has gone back to a more acoustic drum set with just a few synthesized toys in the kit.

The man is a god.

So is the whole band.

I hate when people dis Rush. I don't mind if they don't like the music, but the active hatred for Rush astounds me.

[LynneSin]

2. Is that Neil Peart?

Without a doubt Neil Peart is probably one of the best living drummers today

You want best - here he is

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L47lv3QTkbo&NR=1

[Benfea]

30. Wrong answer.

The correct answer would be the guy Neil Peart did a tribute album to: Buddy Rich.

Buddy Rich solo from 1970: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgeX9iYOFSQ
Buddy Rich versus Animal (Muppet Show): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erE8WTngaAY

I know some jazz aficionados insist that there are better jazz drummers than Buddy Rich, but screw those elitists anyway. Buddy was the shit!

[Tuesday Afternoon]

3. Excellent --

another nice one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnQuuDnkeJ8

[Tuesday Afternoon]

4. Two More in a Battle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNhnioNNIPI

[Ptah]

5. Gene Krupa vs Buddy Rich

http://youtube.com/watch?v=dwJAAlXomVk

:hi:

[Tuesday Afternoon]

6. fun

:hi:

[no name no slogan]

18. Got a good Buddy Rich joke for you

Q: What's the difference between a moose and the Buddy Rich Orchestra?

A: On a moose, the horns are in front, and the asshole's in back.

[WCGreen]

55. I saw Gene Krupa when he was way passed his time in a gym

in Lakewood Ohio...

My dad took me there and just said, boy, That's a Drummer...

[Crabby Appleton]

69. Gene Krupa was the best

photo is kind of dinged up, but here is a very young Crabby with Gene Krupa many years ago.

[hellbound-liberal]

7. I really like his performance at the Buddy Rich Memorial Concert

the guys in the band really seem to be enjoying it too!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bIchqJoxFQ

[Orsino]

8. Well, the biggest kit, anyway.

I was going to be underwhelmed by that performance, but after a slow start, it does get really good despite all the gimmickry.

I've still got to give the edge to Bonham, if only for this deceptively-simple recording: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7E03VWTx3pQ

Back before the dinosaurs, when kits were small, Jones, Roach and Blakey ruled the earth: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vA5dt9QT4Ms Blakey's legendary ability to beat out different signatures with different limbs simultaneously is especially impressive.

[Tektonik]

9. The best drummer in the world

realizes a drum solo is fucking retarded.

[av8rdave]

10. Just bought my Rush tickets today....yipeeeee!

Love 'em or hate 'em....see them live and be astounded!

[yourout]

46. Saw them in Milwaukee with my 20 year old son.......great show.

Seems weird going to rock concerts with my kids.

[av8rdave]

53. I know how you feel....

Took my son to see them a few years ago.

[enigmatic]

11. Joe Morello is the best, IMO

http://recluseshow.blogspot.com/2007/02/sounds-of-loop-dave-brubeck-quartet.html

[Ptah]

12. Joe Morello is one of my favorites.

Take Five


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Morello :
Morello suffered from impaired vision since he was born, and devoted himself to
indoor activities. At six years old he began studying the violin, to feature
three years later as soloist with the Boston Symphony Orchestra playing
Mendelssohn's Violin Concerto, and again three years later.

At the of age 15 Morello met the violinist Jascha Heifetz and decided that he
would never be able to equal Heifetz's "sound", so switched to drumming,
first studying with a show drummer named Joe Sefcik and then George Lawrence Stone,
author of the noted drum textbook Stick Control for the Snare Drummer.
Stone was so impressed with Morello's ideas that he incorporated them into his next
book, Accents & Rebounds, which is dedicated to Morello. Later, Morello studied with
Radio City Music Hall percussionist Billy Gladstone.

[DaDooRonRon]

13. I met Joe Morello when I was a teenager

He was a friend of a long time family friend who worked for Ludwig, and Morello and Paul Desmond(!) stopped by our house one day when the friend was there.

I had NO idea who they were - just a couple of old fogies, I thought.

[opiate69]

14. Peart is certainly a legend.. but there've been quite a few really good drummers in recentyears as w

One of my current favorites is Yoshiki from X Japan... intense, intense drummer..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z22nSEgrAQI

[tigereye]

15. Joe Morello

mind-boggling technique

[Tikki]

16. Ginger Baker and Bun E Carlos and my......

props to D J Bonebrake....






Tikki

[no name no slogan]

17. He needs more drums

and definitely needs more cowbell

[BrotherBuzz]

20. You can never have too many drums...

and cowbells balls for that matter....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tki3FtN91lM&feature=related

[Tuesday Afternoon]

19. more cowbell

not enough cowbell

[freethought]

21. That drum set is insane!!

How does he get in an out of that set?
I've been a Rush fan for YEARS. I am genuinely glad to see Neil Peart still drumming it out.
I heard somewhere that he remarried some time ago. Good thing! He went through a really rough period some time ago. Geddy and Alex weren't too sure about his state of mind.

[av8rdave]

28. If you haven't, read his book "Ghost Rider"

Covers that part of his life in beautiful, sometimes heartbreaking detail. He's a decent writer as well.

[freethought]

34. I have heard about that

but I have not read it. I also know he was all over the place on that motorcycle of his.
It was still good to hear he had remarried. As I understand it, the bride was someone he had actually known for some time.

[Common Sense Party]

56. Amen. "Ghost Rider" was beautiful, haunting and cathartic. nt

[ok_cpu]

22. Uncle Phil Collins

:hide:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUR4k0LyTdc&feature=related

[yourout]

66. I liked the Phil Collins - Chester Thompson duet during "The ...

Way We Walk" tour.

Saw them at Camp Randall Stadium in Madison.

[SoxFan]

23. Better than Peart, Bonham, and Moon combined

[Cabcere]

24. ANIMAL!!!!1!!11!!!!

:headbang: :woohoo: :bounce:

Right on. :thumbsup:

[DaDooRonRon]

25. Well, somebody has to say it, so I will

NO rock drummer - or rock ANYBODY - can be "best", unless rock "best" is what we are speaking of.

The rock format is ridiculously limited, and playing drums on a rock song is like painting a closet. Anyone can do it.

Years ago there was a discussion going on about who was a better drummer - Ginger Baker or Buddy Rich. Even Baker (a fairly good jazz drummer in his own right) said he couldn't hold a candle to Mr. Rich, and he was correct.

Joe Morello, Buddy Rich, Elvin Jones, Art Blakey, Philly Joe Jones - the list goes on. Sorry, but the drummer for Rush???

I don't think so.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

27. To Each Their Own. Course, When It Comes Down To The Judgments Of Musicians Around The Entire World

, I'd say those favoring Peart as no.1 outnumber your position ehhhhhhhh, maybe 10,000 to 1.

[hippywife]

32. I have to disagree.

When I first saw this thread, I thought it was posted to get people's opinions. I was going to come in and post Gene Krupa. I watched the video and about 2 minutes in, I started seeing the Krupa style. There is a lot of great influence there. Neil's earned his kudos.

[DaDooRonRon]

33. Can't go along with you on this one

Guy sits in front of 13,000 drums and plays for 8 minutes. You can count the triplets on one hand, and I don't think he ever changes time.

I remember Rich (in his own unique style) cracking on those drummers who "needed" double bass drums and floor tom-toms and 20 different ride cymbals etc.

This guy can't carry Elvin Jones' sticks, but for a rock drummer he's OK. I mean, he plays loud and fast and hits things that make different sounds.

Isn't that all you need? :)

[hippywife]

35. No, it's not.

I like all genres of music and can appreciate something in all of them. You apparently have a bias against rock.

Watching that clip is akin to watching an artist address his canvas.

[DaDooRonRon]

42. Hardly a bias

Just so you'll know, there is a reason behind my avatar, I've been collecting 60's era rock for YEARS, and, well, I kind of know my way around it. From the inside.

I enjoy the hell out of it, but as a musical form it is indeed very limited in scope and composition.

Let's face it, how many classical or jazz "garage bands" are out there?

I just know its limitations, and that "performance" is nothing more than a rock drum solo.

For what it's worth.

[hippywife]

44. Whatever.

Be a snob if you wish. I happen to love music, too. Music of all kinds from all eras. It's a huge part of my life and if being on the inside makes you this big a snob, then I'm glad I've always enjoyed it from the outside.

[DaDooRonRon]

45. Sorry

You can enjoy whatever you wish, as do I. Nothing "snobby" about it, actually. Rock is the lowest common denominator of music, it's why so many people gravitate to it. It is easily understandable, it takes not too much talent to play it (initially), and it makes your toes tap. That being said, to think that one can not make the statement that it is less demanding than jazz or classical music without being accused of "snobishness" is quite the stretch indeed.

If this critique of a musical form hits too close to home, then perhaps maybe you shouldn't get involved with it.

Unless, of course, you are married to Mr. Peart, in which case I understand.

If you're not, lighten up. It's just two people talking, is all.

'Night.

[hippywife]

64. Rock isn't even my favorite genre.

I almost never listen to it but I can still recognize when something, someone is special in about any genre, as I said before, without being a snob and dissing all the folks that do enjoy it.

[kwassa]

48. I agree with you

jazz drummers are generally far more skilled than rock drummers, because the music demands so much more. Rock is simple stuff.

[DaDooRonRon]

68. That's all I'm trying to say

Just looking at it "clinically." It's the reason I can't (or won't) compare Carlos Santans with Joe Pass - it's ludicrous to do so.

Doesn't mean I don't enjoy Santana, or find him a compelling rock guitarist. He is just, as you say, in a less demanding musical genre.

No more, no less.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

26. Before I Clicked On The Thread, I Thought "This Better Be A Neil Peart Thread"

Glad to see you didn't disappoint :)

[av8rdave]

29. You got that right!

Rush...Dallas...April 25th, baby!

[Amerigo Vespucci]

31. MOON

Took me about 1 second to register that.

Keith Moon. The alpha and the omega. KEITH MOON.

[Cabcere]

43. My first thought, too.

:headbang: I do loves me some Moon. :toast:

[Robeson]

54. Gone way too soon...

...I agree. IMHO, he was the best.

[ikojo]

67. Quadrophenia!!!!

Now go ride your scooter!

[steelemagnolia]

36. I'll defend the girls: Sheila E. FanfingTastic and

Karen Carpenter was a pretty good female drummer too. JMO

[1gobluedem]

37. I'm kind of partial to Chick Webb

Or Gene Krupa.

[Dr. Strange]

38. Yes, the Professor...he is good.

[Tikki]

39. Ringo and in many ways he defined the .......

finesse drummer.



Tikki

[Bennyboy]

40. This is not a Stanton Moore thread?

My favorite drummer, from New Orleans and the band Galactic (and many others).The guy is pure sickness.

[Paladin]

41. Joe Morello and Charlie Watts (n/t)

[mitchum]

47. Why is there a video of an Ayn Rand-loving bonehead instead of Elvin Jones?

[Redneck Socialist]

49. I hope I'm not the only one who got bored half way through

and clicked the vid off.

Maybe it's just me, but I fail to see the appeal of the drum solo.

On the other hand the Buddy Rich/Animal video totally kicked ass.

[ordinaryaveragegirl]

50. Many faves here...

The top of my list includes Peart, Collins, Moon, Watts, Krupa, Jim Keltner, and Joe Vitale.

[leeroysphitz]

51. Is that Bob Crane?

[alfredo]

52. Zakir Hussein

http://youtube.com/watch?v=TXxJGtnOrOE&feature=related


BTW, they do some crazy shit near the end.

This could be the next master


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JDMQxTZjnE&NR=1

[RandomKoolzip]

57. My vote goes to Levon Helm. And I say this as a drummer with 20+ years of experience

under my belt. I've been playing drums since I was 3. I worshipped Bonham as a kid, Copeland as an adolescent, Bruford as a teen, Coliauta, Bozzio, Cobham, then George Hurley (Y'know, the Minutemen!) and Brendan Canty (Fugazi, y'all) around the same time. I've learned the tricks of the trade from aping these cats and I know the time and effort it takes to master those things that make other drummers go "holy shit!" But in the end, that's all irrelavent if you don't have the natural feel. It's something that can't be learned. It's something that Levon Helm embodies.

Levon's simple. He treats the drum track as part of the composition, not an excuse to solo. Every note he plays is in service to the song. Take a look at his kit in "The Last Waltz;" it's a mongrel, made from the what looks like six or seven of the cheapest, all-wood brands available, Sometimes it sounds like there's not a single piece of metal anywhere on his kit. AND YET he coaxes the most unimaginably funky and direct beauty from those simple tools.

I understand people go for those thousand-note-a-second fills and wacky polyrythyms, but as a rock drummer, I think Levon brought only what was needed to the party and did it soulfully. Think of those introductory tom fills on "Tears of Rage;" can you name another drummer in history who would have WANTED his kit to sound so dry and woody? OR who could have used that muted sound to carry such heavy emotion? Or who could have even conceived of using the drum track as a vehicle FOR emotion in the first place? Levon had such soul. Peart doesn't have soul - he's impressive, but he's cold.

Levon Helm = Not flashy. Pyrotechnics would set his wooden kit alight. But like Greil Marcus once siad, he's the only guy who can make you cry with just the sound of his drums.

Give me a Levon Helm, an Al Jackson, a Doug Clifford, a Kenny Aronoff, or a Ziggy Modelliste or an Earl Palmer any day over those math-hungry paradiddle addicts Modern Drummer creams over.

EDIT:

Proof in the puddin': Here's "Tears of Rage," for those who've never heard it, or who need to hear it once more. Try to ignore the bizarre static visuals and just listen to what Levon is doing. Neil Peart couldn't do what Helm does here.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=MdU9Wyj5O0I&feature=related

[JCMach1]

58. Some Video I took of Nasser Sain

http://youtube.com/watch?v=uNOkezDNU6c

and

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Qsx-7z2E_mY



Call me when your drummer can do this...

[JCMach1]

59. Also Pappu Saen is damn good too

http://youtube.com/watch?v=8o25uVQl-bQ&feature=relatedhttp://youtube.com/watch?v=8o25uVQl-bQ&feature=related

and with Overload


IF YOU LOVE DRUM MUSIC WATCH THE VIDEO BELOW!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=4xvwMM8Tga0&feature=related

[blitzen]

60. there is no such thing as a good drum solo....

the drummer should back up the band, give it a little kick now and then, provide rhythm, etc....This solo is extremely boring and non-musical

[JCMach1]

61. Ha, give this a try!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=4xvwMM8Tga0&feature=related

Drums are the center of the whole band!

[blitzen]

62. okay, that's good...I do like it....but, it's not a solo!

[JCMach1]

63. It depends really... 1970's was also full of gratuitous guitar solos...

Today, the cliche is gratuitous rap where none is needed!

Drum solos can fall into that category (especially in the Rock genre).

Drums can stand on their own, but they better have a good raison d'etre

[johnnie]

65. Peart is good, but check out some of these

I found this site a while ago and remembered that I bookmarked it. There are a shitload of drummers on here, but here are some fun ones to watch:

Papa Jo Jones:

http://www.onlinedrummer.com/drummer.php?BeatId=276


Barrett Deems:

http://www.onlinedrummer.com/drummer.php?BeatId=680


Joe Morello doing a pretty good solo w/ his hands:

http://www.onlinedrummer.com/drummer.php?BeatId=406


Roger Taylor from Queen. Not the best, but fun to watch:

http://www.onlinedrummer.com/drummer.php?BeatId=693


And of course..Animal:

http://www.onlinedrummer.com/drummer.php?BeatId=216


There are a lot of great videos on that site. Like I said, Peart is a good drummer although I am not much of a fan of Rush I can't take away their talent. If you watch some of the older videos I posted you can see where some of the "modern" drummers got a lot of what they do. Check out the Barrett Deems one when he goes off and plays a chair.

[alfredo]

70. Glen Velez

Tambourines are for more than bruising a girl singer's thigh.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=b0_xGq3kXVM&feature=related